Is this zoa pox?

Sand.man · 08/19/2014, 06:49 PM

Hi everyone,

This is my first time buying corals, so I'm trying to be very thorough, and trying to do as much research as possible but I can use some help.

I bought a bunch of coral frags about 4 days ago, and some of my zoas have opened up, while others have not, I understand that some zoas can be very temperamental, so I'm giving it a bit more time and hopefully they'll open up.

Currently they are in my 10g quarantine tank.

They were dipped with coral revive for ~10 minutes before going in the quarantine.

The light is a zetlight nano touch LED light, I think this should be sufficient in a 10 gal tank.

water:

Mag - 1290
calcium - 450
Alk - 9.5-10
PH - 8.2
Nitrates - 0.2-0.5
Ammonia/nitrites - 0
Salinity - 1.025

It is a frag, which was completely open and doing fine when I purchased it from a fellow reefer.

I believe they are Kamikazi zoanthids.

There are no additives, the only flow is from a HOB Tetra 10 filter, I think this might not be enough flow? should I add a korila nano powerhead?

The crucial part: Not all the zoa heads opened up in the frag, but most of them did the next day. On day 2, I noticed that there was a giant aptasia hidden in the middle of the colony. So 2 days ago, I used aptasia x on the aptasia, because from my bit of research, it was concluded that the aptasia x won't be harmful to the zoas. The aptasia ate most of the aptasia x, with very minimal amounts landing on/hitting the zoa heads. As far as I saw, the aptasia x shouldn't have gotten inside any of the zoa heads, because I did it at night time when all the zoa heads were closed to begin with.

This morning, 1.5 days later, the aptasia is gone, but the zoas remain closed. They seem to have sort of white "dot" on them.

Now, I'm not sure if this is them being "hurt" by the aptasia x ? or is this nothing to be concerned about? or if this is in fact, zoa pox.

Like I said, this is my first shot at corals, so I'm still new at recognizing/identifying coral disease/parasites.

There are 2 pictures, one of them with red circles outlining the issue, and the other one without the distracting red circles.

Thanks for looking:

Is this zoa pox? aptasia x hurting them? nothing at all?

Any help is much appreciated, thank you in advance.

cloak · 08/19/2014, 07:32 PM

Here's a picture of zoa pox in my tank. Just small white pimples throughout the colony.

650-IS350 · 08/20/2014, 10:45 AM

http://www.zoaid.com/articles004.php

Sand.man · 08/20/2014, 02:48 PM

Hmm I see. So it sort of does look like it unfortunately.

Since I posted the picture, though, three of the circled heads have opened up, would a zoa stay closed when it has zoa pox? or is it possible for the zoa heads to open up while still having the infection?

In other words, since they opened up, does that mean that it's not zoa pox?

650-IS350 · 08/20/2014, 04:58 PM

Yep they can be open and still have pox infection.

toddanddaneen · 08/31/2014, 11:58 AM

Currently treating zoa pox on some of my zoas I have been treating with cephalexin twice a day and have had no more losses and ones I thought were doomed are opened back up not seeing as many spots now. Currently on my third treatment.

lFATHOMl · 09/05/2014, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddanddaneen

Currently treating zoa pox on some of my zoas I have been treating with cephalexin twice a day and have had no more losses and ones I thought were doomed are opened back up not seeing as many spots now. Currently on my third treatment.

glad they are doing well. i remember my pox started on my tubs blue and just went crazy until I started dipping. Best of luck

knap_123 · 09/05/2014, 09:49 PM

I hate pox! Took most of my collection and can be hard to treat. I'd take them out and quarantine if you have other polyps. It's contagious to your other zoas and palys.

89123reef · 09/13/2014, 07:59 PM

I treated mine with this furan 2 and it did work. That was almost 2 yrs tho.
Best of luck

Sand.man · 09/14/2014, 09:17 PM

Thanks for all your input.

So I did a furan 2 dip, 3 days in a row. I was going to give them a few days to rest and then do another round of furan 2, but I noticed that it improved drastically from the first 3 day treatment.

So far they're looking much better, although I did lose a couple polyps, but the whole colony is still doing well.

The only paly that looks like might not survive is my red people eaters, they've been closed for 4-5 days still, it's hard to tell if they're just not happy, or melting.

650-IS350 · 09/15/2014, 04:50 PM

that's good news.

I've had PPE's close for months.

Sand.man · 09/15/2014, 07:58 PM

Oh, wow.

So I guess just don't touch them and just let them be for now?

Is there any danger of them releasing palytoxin as they're melting?

Or rather, is there a point where I would know they are dead for sure, and remove the disk they are on? Or just leave them be until they dissappear.

There might be a tiny bit of algae growing on them since they're closed, I've read sometimes people brush them to clean them or something?

650-IS350 · 09/22/2014, 10:22 PM

I've seen polyps grow back from just left over Zoanthid mat.

08/19/2014, 06:49 PM	#1
Sand.man Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 92	Is this zoa pox? Hi everyone, This is my first time buying corals, so I'm trying to be very thorough, and trying to do as much research as possible but I can use some help. I bought a bunch of coral frags about 4 days ago, and some of my zoas have opened up, while others have not, I understand that some zoas can be very temperamental, so I'm giving it a bit more time and hopefully they'll open up. Currently they are in my 10g quarantine tank. They were dipped with coral revive for ~10 minutes before going in the quarantine. The light is a zetlight nano touch LED light, I think this should be sufficient in a 10 gal tank. water: Mag - 1290 calcium - 450 Alk - 9.5-10 PH - 8.2 Nitrates - 0.2-0.5 Ammonia/nitrites - 0 Salinity - 1.025 It is a frag, which was completely open and doing fine when I purchased it from a fellow reefer. I believe they are Kamikazi zoanthids. There are no additives, the only flow is from a HOB Tetra 10 filter, I think this might not be enough flow? should I add a korila nano powerhead? The crucial part: Not all the zoa heads opened up in the frag, but most of them did the next day. On day 2, I noticed that there was a giant aptasia hidden in the middle of the colony. So 2 days ago, I used aptasia x on the aptasia, because from my bit of research, it was concluded that the aptasia x won't be harmful to the zoas. The aptasia ate most of the aptasia x, with very minimal amounts landing on/hitting the zoa heads. As far as I saw, the aptasia x shouldn't have gotten inside any of the zoa heads, because I did it at night time when all the zoa heads were closed to begin with. This morning, 1.5 days later, the aptasia is gone, but the zoas remain closed. They seem to have sort of white "dot" on them. Now, I'm not sure if this is them being "hurt" by the aptasia x ? or is this nothing to be concerned about? or if this is in fact, zoa pox. Like I said, this is my first shot at corals, so I'm still new at recognizing/identifying coral disease/parasites. There are 2 pictures, one of them with red circles outlining the issue, and the other one without the distracting red circles. Thanks for looking: Is this zoa pox? aptasia x hurting them? nothing at all? Any help is much appreciated, thank you in advance. Last edited by Sand.man; 08/19/2014 at 06:57 PM.

08/20/2014, 10:45 AM	#3
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08/20/2014, 04:58 PM	#5
650-IS350 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 14,555	Yep they can be open and still have pox infection. __________________ * RETIRED FROM REEFING * Just enjoying the box of water from afar

09/15/2014, 04:50 PM	#11
650-IS350 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 14,555	that's good news. I've had PPE's close for months. __________________ * RETIRED FROM REEFING * Just enjoying the box of water from afar

09/22/2014, 10:22 PM	#13
650-IS350 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 14,555	I've seen polyps grow back from just left over Zoanthid mat. __________________ * RETIRED FROM REEFING * Just enjoying the box of water from afar

08/19/2014, 07:32 PM	#2
cloak Moved On Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 14,854	Here's a picture of zoa pox in my tank. Just small white pimples throughout the colony.

08/20/2014, 02:48 PM	#4
Sand.man Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 92	Hmm I see. So it sort of does look like it unfortunately. Since I posted the picture, though, three of the circled heads have opened up, would a zoa stay closed when it has zoa pox? or is it possible for the zoa heads to open up while still having the infection? In other words, since they opened up, does that mean that it's not zoa pox?

08/31/2014, 11:58 AM	#6
toddanddaneen Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 59	Currently treating zoa pox on some of my zoas I have been treating with cephalexin twice a day and have had no more losses and ones I thought were doomed are opened back up not seeing as many spots now. Currently on my third treatment.

09/05/2014, 09:49 PM	#8
knap_123 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: alex city, alabama Posts: 756	I hate pox! Took most of my collection and can be hard to treat. I'd take them out and quarantine if you have other polyps. It's contagious to your other zoas and palys.

09/13/2014, 07:59 PM	#9
89123reef Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Mattoon Posts: 6	I treated mine with this furan 2 and it did work. That was almost 2 yrs tho. Best of luck

09/14/2014, 09:17 PM	#10
Sand.man Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 92	Thanks for all your input. So I did a furan 2 dip, 3 days in a row. I was going to give them a few days to rest and then do another round of furan 2, but I noticed that it improved drastically from the first 3 day treatment. So far they're looking much better, although I did lose a couple polyps, but the whole colony is still doing well. The only paly that looks like might not survive is my red people eaters, they've been closed for 4-5 days still, it's hard to tell if they're just not happy, or melting.

09/15/2014, 07:58 PM	#12
Sand.man Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 92	Oh, wow. So I guess just don't touch them and just let them be for now? Is there any danger of them releasing palytoxin as they're melting? Or rather, is there a point where I would know they are dead for sure, and remove the disk they are on? Or just leave them be until they dissappear. There might be a tiny bit of algae growing on them since they're closed, I've read sometimes people brush them to clean them or something?