Let Them Flash! - Page 4

fishfanv · 04/26/2006, 05:55 PM

yeah i hope so too. he isn't out as much as i'd like him to be, but he's slowly but surely coming out more often.

H.Tanaka · 04/27/2006, 04:57 PM

It is a larger female of Paracheilinus octotaenia, 6cm. from the Red Sea. The fins are still pale with reddish hue, but number of lines are growing.
In the background are (from left to right) Cirrhilabrus luteovittatus, C. tonozukai (front), and C. lunatus.

NexDog · 04/28/2006, 08:28 AM

H.Tanaka, you have PM (in case you have notification disabled).

H.Tanaka · 04/29/2006, 06:27 PM

The Filamented Flasher Wrasse, Paracheilinus filamentosus.

It is a popular species among keepers and diver as well, and is widely distributed from the Philippines, Indonesia, Palau, Papua New Guinea to the Solomon Islands.

The filament on dorsal fin is about 5-7 in number, and is very similar to P. cyaneus from Indonesia where they mix. They differ in coloration on body; filamentosus has several lines without dots between lines, but in cyaneus there are fine dots between them.
It reaches some 9cm at maximum but most aquarium specimens are around 6-7cm.

Specimens from the Solomons are distinctly colored with an entirely yellow dorsal fin.

6cm long male from Indonesia

7cm male, displaying with a bright blue area on dorsal fin and caudal fin, and also stripes on side turned blue

H.Tanaka · 04/30/2006, 05:19 AM

Two similar species; cyaneus (upper) and filamentosus.

The difference between the lines is obvious.

snorvich · 04/30/2006, 05:29 AM

Hiroyuki, without seeming overly academic, it is not obvious to me that all species are separate and distinct. In some cases it appears as if there was genetic wandering. What are the criteria for determining a separate species of fish? Is it number of dorsal spines, or ?? Thanks in advance. By the way, the arrival of my P. bellae has been delayed until late June. But I have not forgotten about pictures.

H.Tanaka · 04/30/2006, 05:56 AM

snorvich,

Thank you for your comment and yes, it is mysteriou for us why ichthyologists divided these very similar individuals into valid species.

They were examined carefully anatomically by ichthyologists, based (not their coloration) especially upon scale count, lateral-line, bone structure, etc. The paper for description needs at least 3-4 pages in a journal and also they compare a new species with other similar or related spp. The distribution also is significant, and it can make an ichthyologist regard a specimen as a distinct or geographical variant.

For example, P. filamentosus has been a 7single' species but now it is divided by Rudie Kuiter & Gerald Allen into two, P. cyaneus and P. filamentosus. Cirrhilabrus cyanopleura also was long believed to be a 'single' one but now the similar C. solorensis is valid. C. solorensis was described in mid 1800's but it has been ignored by many ichthyologists and now recovered in the list.

There are some auguement among ichthyologists about similar spp. especially of Cirrhilabrus, eg. C. exquiaitus and T. temminckii. Some regard C. lyukyuensis as a valid species. Still confused group.

Spikehs · 05/01/2006, 04:12 PM

I am contemplating getting one of these fish, but my tank will be open top, what is the success rate for these fish in an open top tank?

H.Tanaka · 05/01/2006, 05:15 PM

Spikehs,

These fishes are notoriously known as jumpers, so it is risky to house these in a open top tank. They may fight, chase or be frightened by the keeper and then they would dart into crevices or jump out of the tank so quickly. Yes, they may collide with the top glass but it is the better. I have an experience that I found two specimens dead on the floor in the morning while I was keeping open top aquarium. The same thing will happen with dottybacks.

H.Tanaka · 05/02/2006, 03:43 AM

Next one is Paracheilinus lineopunctatus. Line-spot Flasher.

It ranges the Philippines and northern Indonesia around Sulawesi. It reaches 7.5cm at maximum. Deep red to scarlet body with six to seven filaments on dorsal fin and rounded caudal fin.

They are often standing up and posing to each other like this.

BlueBadger · 05/02/2006, 02:28 PM

Will Flasher's be able to Live in a BB tank or are there certain types I should avoid.

Dan

H.Tanaka · 05/02/2006, 08:47 PM

Bluebadger,

Yes, you can keep fairies in BB tank well; they are not sand sleepers, and they sleep with their own "cocoon" among or under the rocks or corals. They need open space for free swimming and many crevices to hide, but no need of complicated surroundings in the tank.

H.Tanaka · 05/04/2006, 07:30 PM

It is 6cm long male from the Philippines or northern Indonesia around n. Sulawesi. It is a usual coloration.

It is now displaying. Filaments turned white and also the back changed blue. Two bluish white areas appeared on body.

oct2274 · 05/05/2006, 02:39 PM

none of the older pics are showing.....can this be fixed? I really want to see all the pics

H.Tanaka · 05/05/2006, 04:10 PM

oct2274,

Thanks for your interest. Yes, I hope to show all the pics I have posted but there is few space to keep them in my file, so I should have deleted several pics.

I will show all the ones in a lower res or sizes soon.

H.Tanaka · 05/06/2006, 08:36 PM

Paracheilinus species in alphabetical order in color.

This thread shows 4 spp.; angulatus ~ carpenteri

P. angulatus

P. attenuatus

P. bellae

P. carpenteri

H.Tanaka · 05/06/2006, 08:43 PM

This shows 4spp; cyaneus ~ hemitaeniatus

P. cyaneus

P. filamentosus

P. flavianalis

P. hemitaeniatus

H.Tanaka · 05/06/2006, 08:52 PM

This showcase illustrates 4 spp.; lineopunctatus ~ piscilineatus

P. lineopunctatus

P. mccoskeri

P. octotaenia

P. piscilineatus

H.Tanaka · 05/06/2006, 08:56 PM

This depicts photos of P. rubricaudalis. It comes from Fiji and Vanuatu only.

P. rubricaudalis

P. togeanensis is a very rare species found only around easter sulawesi, Indonesia and the photo will be shown soon.

NexDog · 05/06/2006, 09:10 PM

These photos are amazing. For anyone that is interested, Hiroyuki has written a book on Fairy and Flasher Wrasses with all these pics and hundreds more. It has been printed in a kind of paper version and Hiroyuki has received an offer to print it in full hardback. I'm trying to convince him to go-ahead but he says the collection is not yet complete. I suggested he go ahead anyway and do a Part II in a few years. I have his Angelfishes book in hardback that he gave me as a gift and it is simply stunning. I really want to see the Wrasses book in hardback too!

H.Tanaka · 05/06/2006, 11:01 PM

Paracheilinus togeanensis, Togean Flasher in its natural habitat, Sulawesi. It is known with a very few specimens ever collected and photographed. It has not entered the aquarium trade.
It is similar to P. angulatus but P. togeanensis has a distinct, rounded dorsal fin.

NexDog,
Many thanks for your comment, and yes now I am waiting for a reply from the publishing company in Italy. One of the editors might accept my book on wrasses, however I would wait until several species would be described, and they will hopefully be done within a year. At least four new species (2 from Indonesia, 1 from s. Japan to Philippines, and 1 from Kenya) and two subspecies of Cirrhilabrus will be named by Allen, et al.

pisces5296 · 05/06/2006, 11:29 PM

This thread should be a sticky a lot of information and pics

NexDog · 05/06/2006, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by H.Tanaka
NexDog,
Many thanks for your comment, and yes now I am waiting for a reply from the publishing company in Italy. One of the editors might accept my book on wrasses, however I would wait until several species would be described, and they will hopefully be done within a year. At least four new species (2 from Indonesia, 1 from s. Japan to Philippines, and 1 from Kenya) and two subspecies of Cirrhilabrus will be named by Allen, et al.

Ah well, a year is not too long to wait.

pisces5296 · 05/07/2006, 05:31 AM

Yes it is

H.Tanaka · 05/08/2006, 06:32 AM

Paracheilinus species (upper) photographed in Osprey Reef off northen Great Barrier Reef (T. Yamazumi photo).

It is similar to P. mccoskeri (lower) but has a robust filament on D fin and also a wide red area on A fin without any blue spot. It was observed by the photographer making a harem of up to ten individuals on occasion. No specimen available, no examination, so I should avoid to regard it as a new one at present.

04/26/2006, 05:55 PM	#76
fishfanv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: sf bay area Posts: 768	yeah i hope so too. he isn't out as much as i'd like him to be, but he's slowly but surely coming out more often. __________________ "yes we can" Current Tank Info: 40 & 30 gallon reefs

04/28/2006, 08:28 AM	#78
NexDog Snail Killer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kyushu, Japan Posts: 4,804	H.Tanaka, you have PM (in case you have notification disabled). __________________ Laurence Flynn 340g In-Wall Envision Tank and 150g Sump. Current Tank Info: Deltec 902, PFO hood with 3x400w Radium 20k and 4x96w PC's. Hammerhead closed loop - and 2 x Tunze 6105 (and Vortech still sucks).

04/30/2006, 05:29 AM	#81
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outlander Posts: 40,953 Blog Entries: 46	Hiroyuki, without seeming overly academic, it is not obvious to me that all species are separate and distinct. In some cases it appears as if there was genetic wandering. What are the criteria for determining a separate species of fish? Is it number of dorsal spines, or ?? Thanks in advance. By the way, the arrival of my P. bellae has been delayed until late June. But I have not forgotten about pictures. __________________ Warmest regards, ~Steve~

05/06/2006, 09:10 PM	#95
NexDog Snail Killer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kyushu, Japan Posts: 4,804	These photos are amazing. For anyone that is interested, Hiroyuki has written a book on Fairy and Flasher Wrasses with all these pics and hundreds more. It has been printed in a kind of paper version and Hiroyuki has received an offer to print it in full hardback. I'm trying to convince him to go-ahead but he says the collection is not yet complete. I suggested he go ahead anyway and do a Part II in a few years. I have his Angelfishes book in hardback that he gave me as a gift and it is simply stunning. I really want to see the Wrasses book in hardback too! __________________ Laurence Flynn 340g In-Wall Envision Tank and 150g Sump. Current Tank Info: Deltec 902, PFO hood with 3x400w Radium 20k and 4x96w PC's. Hammerhead closed loop - and 2 x Tunze 6105 (and Vortech still sucks).

04/27/2006, 04:57 PM	#77
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	It is a larger female of Paracheilinus octotaenia, 6cm. from the Red Sea. The fins are still pale with reddish hue, but number of lines are growing. In the background are (from left to right) Cirrhilabrus luteovittatus, C. tonozukai (front), and C. lunatus.

04/29/2006, 06:27 PM	#79
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	The Filamented Flasher Wrasse, Paracheilinus filamentosus. It is a popular species among keepers and diver as well, and is widely distributed from the Philippines, Indonesia, Palau, Papua New Guinea to the Solomon Islands. The filament on dorsal fin is about 5-7 in number, and is very similar to P. cyaneus from Indonesia where they mix. They differ in coloration on body; filamentosus has several lines without dots between lines, but in cyaneus there are fine dots between them. It reaches some 9cm at maximum but most aquarium specimens are around 6-7cm. Specimens from the Solomons are distinctly colored with an entirely yellow dorsal fin. 6cm long male from Indonesia 7cm male, displaying with a bright blue area on dorsal fin and caudal fin, and also stripes on side turned blue

04/30/2006, 05:19 AM	#80
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	Two similar species; cyaneus (upper) and filamentosus. The difference between the lines is obvious.

04/30/2006, 05:56 AM	#82
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	snorvich, Thank you for your comment and yes, it is mysteriou for us why ichthyologists divided these very similar individuals into valid species. They were examined carefully anatomically by ichthyologists, based (not their coloration) especially upon scale count, lateral-line, bone structure, etc. The paper for description needs at least 3-4 pages in a journal and also they compare a new species with other similar or related spp. The distribution also is significant, and it can make an ichthyologist regard a specimen as a distinct or geographical variant. For example, P. filamentosus has been a 7single' species but now it is divided by Rudie Kuiter & Gerald Allen into two, P. cyaneus and P. filamentosus. Cirrhilabrus cyanopleura also was long believed to be a 'single' one but now the similar C. solorensis is valid. C. solorensis was described in mid 1800's but it has been ignored by many ichthyologists and now recovered in the list. There are some auguement among ichthyologists about similar spp. especially of Cirrhilabrus, eg. C. exquiaitus and T. temminckii. Some regard C. lyukyuensis as a valid species. Still confused group.

05/01/2006, 04:12 PM	#83
Spikehs Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 418	I am contemplating getting one of these fish, but my tank will be open top, what is the success rate for these fish in an open top tank?

05/01/2006, 05:15 PM	#84
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	Spikehs, These fishes are notoriously known as jumpers, so it is risky to house these in a open top tank. They may fight, chase or be frightened by the keeper and then they would dart into crevices or jump out of the tank so quickly. Yes, they may collide with the top glass but it is the better. I have an experience that I found two specimens dead on the floor in the morning while I was keeping open top aquarium. The same thing will happen with dottybacks.

05/02/2006, 03:43 AM	#85
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	Next one is Paracheilinus lineopunctatus. Line-spot Flasher. It ranges the Philippines and northern Indonesia around Sulawesi. It reaches 7.5cm at maximum. Deep red to scarlet body with six to seven filaments on dorsal fin and rounded caudal fin. They are often standing up and posing to each other like this.

05/02/2006, 02:28 PM	#86
BlueBadger Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Munster, IN Posts: 201	Will Flasher's be able to Live in a BB tank or are there certain types I should avoid. Dan

05/02/2006, 08:47 PM	#87
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	Bluebadger, Yes, you can keep fairies in BB tank well; they are not sand sleepers, and they sleep with their own "cocoon" among or under the rocks or corals. They need open space for free swimming and many crevices to hide, but no need of complicated surroundings in the tank.

05/04/2006, 07:30 PM	#88
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	It is 6cm long male from the Philippines or northern Indonesia around n. Sulawesi. It is a usual coloration. It is now displaying. Filaments turned white and also the back changed blue. Two bluish white areas appeared on body.

05/05/2006, 02:39 PM	#89
oct2274 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 2,347	none of the older pics are showing.....can this be fixed? I really want to see all the pics

05/05/2006, 04:10 PM	#90
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	oct2274, Thanks for your interest. Yes, I hope to show all the pics I have posted but there is few space to keep them in my file, so I should have deleted several pics. I will show all the ones in a lower res or sizes soon.

05/06/2006, 08:36 PM	#91
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	Paracheilinus species in alphabetical order in color. This thread shows 4 spp.; angulatus ~ carpenteri P. angulatus P. attenuatus P. bellae P. carpenteri

05/06/2006, 08:43 PM	#92
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	This shows 4spp; cyaneus ~ hemitaeniatus P. cyaneus P. filamentosus P. flavianalis P. hemitaeniatus

05/06/2006, 08:52 PM	#93
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	This showcase illustrates 4 spp.; lineopunctatus ~ piscilineatus P. lineopunctatus P. mccoskeri P. octotaenia P. piscilineatus

05/06/2006, 08:56 PM	#94
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	This depicts photos of P. rubricaudalis. It comes from Fiji and Vanuatu only. P. rubricaudalis P. togeanensis is a very rare species found only around easter sulawesi, Indonesia and the photo will be shown soon.

05/06/2006, 11:01 PM	#96
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	Paracheilinus togeanensis, Togean Flasher in its natural habitat, Sulawesi. It is known with a very few specimens ever collected and photographed. It has not entered the aquarium trade. It is similar to P. angulatus but P. togeanensis has a distinct, rounded dorsal fin. NexDog, Many thanks for your comment, and yes now I am waiting for a reply from the publishing company in Italy. One of the editors might accept my book on wrasses, however I would wait until several species would be described, and they will hopefully be done within a year. At least four new species (2 from Indonesia, 1 from s. Japan to Philippines, and 1 from Kenya) and two subspecies of Cirrhilabrus will be named by Allen, et al.

05/06/2006, 11:29 PM	#97
pisces5296 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: mass Posts: 95	This thread should be a sticky a lot of information and pics

05/07/2006, 05:31 AM	#99
pisces5296 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: mass Posts: 95	Yes it is

05/08/2006, 06:32 AM	#100
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	Paracheilinus species (upper) photographed in Osprey Reef off northen Great Barrier Reef (T. Yamazumi photo). It is similar to P. mccoskeri (lower) but has a robust filament on D fin and also a wide red area on A fin without any blue spot. It was observed by the photographer making a harem of up to ten individuals on occasion. No specimen available, no examination, so I should avoid to regard it as a new one at present.