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I should have added, if you have multiple cables going from the varspeed port to the pump, swap them and give them a try. Several of us over on Neptune Systems Community forum have found our Neptune-to-Tunze cables are very loose... You have to trim back the plastic on the DIN plug so it seats deeper in the Tunze block, and even then, they are sorta wiggly, giving irradic connections some times.
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Chunck, I assume you looked at the LED's over the VDM ports on the Apex brain and they are not flashing? If so, I'd definitely contact Neptune support. If they are flashing, it could be that you are either using the wrong ports which is unlikely or it's even possible that the Apex has a phantom set of VDM ports in which case a remote session with a Neptune tech should resolve that. I'd give them a call and see if you can get them to remote in once you have ascertained whether your LED's are illuminated above the ports on the Apex brain. In the mean time, I am glad you have them working on your VDM module.
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While it is true that Roger and Tunze has said you should not use 1-29% in your profiles they have not said do not use 0 in them. They suggest not running them at least than 30. 0 is off so you are not peering them at less than 30% in this case.
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slief, thanks for posting this it does help those of us who don't understand much about programming anything. I think I follow your settings of the Stream1&2 and your pump profiles but the timer confuses me. Can you explain in more detail what it is doing and how it works and also where you program the timer? Is that line put in each vs outlet or is it an outlet on its on? I really dont understand it. Thanks!
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I give a basic explanation of how the OSC statement the timer virtual outlets work according to how I have it programmed. That explanation is below in red. Timer1 (turns on every 120 minutes for 10 minutes.. If timer 2 is on at that time, timer1 should remain off) OSC 120:00/010:00/000:00 Then ON If Outlet Timer2 = ON Then OFF If Time 19:30 to 11:30 Then OFF If FeedA 000 Then OFF Timer2 (turns on every 45 minutes for 15 minutes except if timer 3 is on) OSC 045:00/015:00/000:00 Then ON If Outlet Timer3 = ON Then OFF If Time 19:30 to 11:30 Then OFF If FeedA 000 Then OFF Timer3 (turn on every 15 minutes for 5 minutes except if timer 1 is on) OSC 015:00/005:00/000:00 Then ON If Outlet Timer1 = ON Then OFF If Time 19:30 to 11:30 Then OFF If FeedA 000 Then OFF When a virtual outlet turns on, certain profiles are activated. Here is the Variable Speed port outlets programming that control two of my Tunzes. The timers allow for various flow profiles to turn on somewhat randomly so that my flow patterns are mixed up throughout the day as opposed to consistent. StreamLt Set Wave1 If Time 10:30 to 11:59 Then duskdawn If Time 12:00 to 19:00 Then Wave1 If Time 19:01 to 20:00 Then duskdawn If Time 20:01 to 10:29 Then Night If Outlet Timer1 = ON Then Lt_Flush If Outlet Timer2 = ON Then duskdawn If Outlet Timer3 = ON Then Wave2 If FeedA 000 Then OFF StreamRt Set Wave1 If Time 10:30 to 11:59 Then duskdawn If Time 12:00 to 19:00 Then Wave1 If Time 19:01 to 20:00 Then duskdawn If Time 20:01 to 10:29 Then Night If Outlet Timer1 = ON Then Rt_Flush If Outlet Timer2 = ON Then duskdawn If Outlet Timer3 = ON Then Wave2 If FeedA 000 Then OFF
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Thanks this does help a lot. Is there a reason you don't have the timers off from 1900-1159 so that your dusk/dawn and night modes are guaranteed to not be interrupted?
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Also, what is the Set Wave1 statement for?
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Glad to help.. Regarding not interrupting dusk dawn. Good catch.. You are the first person to notice that... I probably should adjust my "If Time 19:30 to 11:30 Then OFF" line in my timers to "If Time 19:00 to 11:59 Then OFF" or adjust my dusk/dawn on off times. That said, Timer1 comes on every 2 hours (starting from 12AM) so that won't interrupt the dusk dawn because that wouldn't turn on for the first time until 12PM. Timer2 occurs every 45 minutes and since that triggers dusk/dawn anyway, that won't impact the dusk dawn profile during those hours. Timer3 however will interrupt that and it trigger wave1. As such, I will definately go back and make an adjustment there.
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Set Wave1 sets the default wave profile to wave1. It only changes when timers or "If Time" statements change the variable speed port to a different profile. This works much the same way when you have Set On or Set Off as the first program line of in an outlet program. The outlet will default On or Off when the Apex isn't connected.
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OK I was just wondering if it was on purpose. I assume you have named your VS1 StreamLT and your VS2 StreamRT (or vise versa) and that is where you are programming the If time statements for the various profiles and timers, I still dont know what the first line "Set Wave1" is for or if it is necessary. Does that just default it to that profile if it loses contact with the apex?
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As I said in my last reply, "Set Wave1" sets the default wave pattern and the "If Time" and "Timer" statements change the modes from there. Since the variable speed ports are part of the Apex brain, if the Apex dies, the pumps default to the postion of the trim pod on the Tunze control box so the Set Wave1 would not be in play under that scenario. I would guess that the "If Time" and "Timer" statements alone would be enough and one could probably do without the "Set Wave1" statement. It's been so long since I programmed these that I don't recall if the "Set Wave1" was needed or not. In hindsight, I probably started with 1 default profile (Wave1) and the Set Wave1 would have been the logical simple implementation of that profile. After getting it working, I added more profiles based on time and timers and kept adding on from there leaving the Set Wave1 in the programming. I never experimented with removing "Set Wave1" since it was already working as planned. As such, it may just work fine without that line of code.
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Ok thanks. For some reason when u first replied I couldn't see it all. Just don't want you to think I'm crazy. Thanks for all the help!
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Thanks a lot. I'm cleaning my original 6105 tonite and just got a new one today. I'll be putting them both online this weekend. My tank is a 180 and my placement is different so I figure I will have to adjust the profiles themselves but your overall programming and layout has been a tremendous help. One last question, do you have the trim pod on the tunze turned all the way up? I would assume so. Thanks again!
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Can I just copy and paste and will this work with jebao using apex/ghl connection?
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confused on timers where do you put that info in at
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Timers are virtual outlets that you will need to create. I created multiple virtual outlets. Timer1, Timer2, Timer3 and used "advanced" to add those lines of code covered on page 1 of this thread. The timers add some random behaviour to the flow.
Timer code is as follows: Timer1 (turns on every 120 minutes for 10 minutes. If timer 2 is on at that time, it should remain off. OSC 120:00/010:00/000:00 Then ON If Outlet Timer2 = ON Then OFF If Time 19:30 to 11:30 Then OFF If FeedA 000 Then OFF Timer2 (turns on every 45 minutes for 15 minutes except if timer 3 is on) OSC 045:00/015:00/000:00 Then ON If Outlet Timer3 = ON Then OFF If Time 19:30 to 11:30 Then OFF If FeedA 000 Then OFF Timer3 (turn on every 15 minutes for 5 minutes except if timer 1 is on) OSC 015:00/005:00/000:00 Then ON If Outlet Timer1 = ON Then OFF If Time 19:30 to 11:30 Then OFF If FeedA 000 Then OFF
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Am I able to use apex fusion to create virtual outlets and use advanced
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