powerhead outside the tank

youpey · 06/18/2018, 08:15 PM

i remember there was a power head that the entire powerhead was outside of the tank, and only the blade was on the inside and spun with magnets.

its not the one that is like 400 dollars with the wavemaker and other stuff, it was just a basic powerhead, but the bulk was on the outside.

can anyone help me out on the name of this. i cant remember for the life of me.

jamie1981 · 06/18/2018, 08:28 PM

Never heard of one other than the vortechs.

biecacka · 06/20/2018, 07:27 PM

Yeah I have only seen vortechs operate this way, possibly due to patents..

Corey

Spiffy · 06/21/2018, 10:23 AM

The Jebaos are the cheap knock-offs of the Vortechs. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth just to say that name... Purchase and use at your own risk.

Rover88 · 06/21/2018, 11:22 AM

I don't believe the Jebao knockoffs have the motor outside of the tank, they only have the magnet outside of the tank. If we are thinking of the same one that is.

Only ones I know where the electrical connection is on the dry side of the glass is the Ecotech ones.

mcgyvr · 06/21/2018, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiffy

The Jebaos are the cheap knock-offs of the Vortechs. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth just to say that name... Purchase and use at your own risk.

No they aren't..
Jebaos have the motor inside the tank and only a magnet on the outside...
In no way are they a knock-off of the vortech powerheads..

mfinn · 06/21/2018, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiffy

The Jebaos are the cheap knock-offs of the Vortechs. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth just to say that name... Purchase and use at your own risk.

They aren't anything like the Vortech pumps.
They copied the Tunze powerheads.

Jayreefer · 06/21/2018, 08:47 PM

There are a lot of Jebao hatters out there, but I have 3 pumps running with no issues for over 2 years now and I bought 2 of them used. And I do very little pump maintenance.

I did have 1 go out after a year and again it was used when I bought it.

If you are reefing on a budget they are the way to go.

Member No. 1 · 06/22/2018, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayreefer

Snip ---->

If you are reefing on a budget they are the way to go.

Where the heck was I when they sent out this memo!

mcgyvr · 06/22/2018, 07:03 AM

Jebao powerheads (PP series) and return pump (DCS series) have been working great for me... The WP and RW powerheads were crap..

outssider · 06/22/2018, 05:48 PM

he wants the power chord outside the tank, so all this chatter about Jebao is irrelevant

laverda · 06/24/2018, 12:46 AM

Tunze used to make some. I have 4 of them I am not using. I was thinking about possibly modifying 2 to mimic wave pumps.

nikon187 · 06/24/2018, 12:08 PM

there is a reason vortech is the only one, they have a patent on the tech. Reef octopus has a similar pump but none will have the power supply outside the tank with magnet drive through the glass. ( not in north america anyways while the patent is still active )

ostrow · 06/24/2018, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by laverda

Tunze used to make some. I have 4 of them I am not using. I was thinking about possibly modifying 2 to mimic wave pumps.

Wrong. Never. Not Tunze.

laverda · 06/26/2018, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ostrow

Wrong. Never. Not Tunze.

I have 4 that will prove you wrong.

ostrow · 06/26/2018, 05:24 AM

Post a photo of them. Unless some prototype never marketed or sold only the mounting magnet is dry. The motor is in the tank as is the cord from it.

LQT · 06/26/2018, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by laverda

I have 4 that will prove you wrong.

I absolutely love Tunze gear. Please post a picture of your pumps... definitely intrigued.

ostrow · 06/26/2018, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nikon187

there is a reason vortech is the only one, they have a patent on the tech. ... none will have the power supply outside the tank with magnet drive through the glass.

This.

laverda · 06/26/2018, 01:09 PM

I did not say it was like a vortech. I will dig them out and post some photos.

ostrow · 06/26/2018, 01:18 PM

Ah. No need for the photos. The OP asked about knock-off Vortech.

outssider · 06/26/2018, 04:51 PM

I don't know how in the world vortech got a paten for this idea. This technology has been around 50 years. When I was a kid I had a filter that had the motor on the bottom of a filter with a magnet attached to the shaft. It had an impeller with a magnet on the inside. Same exact idea as the vortech. It was called a dynaflow….any of you old timers remember this filter.....?????

mcgyvr · 06/27/2018, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by outssider

I don't know how in the world vortech got a paten for this idea. This technology has been around 50 years. When I was a kid I had a filter that had the motor on the bottom of a filter with a magnet attached to the shaft. It had an impeller with a magnet on the inside. Same exact idea as the vortech. It was called a dynaflow….any of you old timers remember this filter.....?????

read the patent description.. Thats not the "novel idea" that was patented..

laverda · 06/28/2018, 08:30 PM

Not that it matters, the op said nothing about vortech.
The pumps I was referring to are Tunze 2002's. Here is a photo of 2 of them. The output can be rotated any way you wish and has a deflector attachment as well. The one on the left is assembled minus the mounting brackets. The one on the right is dissambled, including mounting brackets.

I was thinking it might be cool to mount a vertical blade like a Maxsprct Gyre on it. So if anyone has a dead Gyre I would be interested in the parts.

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Originally Posted by ostrow

Ah. No need for the photos. The OP asked about knock-off Vortech.

ostrow · 06/29/2018, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by youpey

i remember there was a power head that the entire powerhead was outside of the tank, and only the blade was on the inside and spun with magnets.

Clearly he was describing Vortech.

But wow that's old school! I used to have two. There was another company I think that had a knockoff of those. They were black. That was when I started my DIY stuff. Somehow got it to rotate like a sea-swirl.

I feel like that motor at the top had to be partially submerged with just the top bit above the waterline?

Man, haven't seen a pic of those in a long time!

youpey · 06/29/2018, 05:59 AM

i must have been mistaken in thinking there was another like the vortech, but at a much cheaper price. i thought i remembered speaking with someone who had them. maybe they were vortech but got them second hand?? i dont know.

i ended up buying a korelea nano

thanks guys

06/18/2018, 08:15 PM	#1
youpey Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: hightstown, NJ Posts: 262	powerhead outside the tank i remember there was a power head that the entire powerhead was outside of the tank, and only the blade was on the inside and spun with magnets. its not the one that is like 400 dollars with the wavemaker and other stuff, it was just a basic powerhead, but the bulk was on the outside. can anyone help me out on the name of this. i cant remember for the life of me. __________________ 16gal Biocube LED - New setup Current Tank Info: 14gal nano

06/21/2018, 10:23 AM	#4
Spiffy Cheesy Poofs! Join Date: May 2014 Location: Bronx, New York Posts: 357	The Jebaos are the cheap knock-offs of the Vortechs. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth just to say that name... Purchase and use at your own risk. __________________ Ecotech Radion XR15 Pro Gen3 x2, ReefLink, CPR CS50 Overflow. Reef Octopus NWB 110 Skimmer, Reef Octopus BR-110 Reactor. VorTech MP40 w/ QD Wetside x2, MP10 x1(Sump), 30-Gallon Sump. Current Tank Info: 60 Gallon, Prepping for LPS, 6 Years.

06/22/2018, 07:03 AM	#10
mcgyvr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 20,050	Jebao powerheads (PP series) and return pump (DCS series) have been working great for me... The WP and RW powerheads were crap.. __________________ Who me?

06/24/2018, 12:46 AM	#12
laverda Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 6,902	Tunze used to make some. I have 4 of them I am not using. I was thinking about possibly modifying 2 to mimic wave pumps. __________________ 240G mixed reef, 29G SPS/LPS clam tank, 50G mixed reef Current Tank Info: 300g mixed reef, 50g cube

06/24/2018, 12:08 PM	#13
nikon187 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 4,717	there is a reason vortech is the only one, they have a patent on the tech. Reef octopus has a similar pump but none will have the power supply outside the tank with magnet drive through the glass. ( not in north america anyways while the patent is still active ) __________________ ----------------- Current Tanks: New 210 custom 84 x 24 x 24, 60g sump, SWC 250 extreme with bubble blaster 5000, 2 vortech mp40, 2 vortech mp10, 12 T5, Water blaster 5000, warner marine bio pellets, 60g clownfish cube, red carpet anemone with a 25g sump,SRO octopus 1000sss, 250w radium, lumenarc large.

06/18/2018, 08:28 PM	#2
jamie1981 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 308	Never heard of one other than the vortechs.

06/20/2018, 07:27 PM	#3
biecacka Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 6,361	Yeah I have only seen vortechs operate this way, possibly due to patents.. Corey

06/21/2018, 11:22 AM	#5
Rover88 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 590	I don't believe the Jebao knockoffs have the motor outside of the tank, they only have the magnet outside of the tank. If we are thinking of the same one that is. Only ones I know where the electrical connection is on the dry side of the glass is the Ecotech ones.

06/21/2018, 08:47 PM	#8
Jayreefer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Peoria Az Posts: 2,022	There are a lot of Jebao hatters out there, but I have 3 pumps running with no issues for over 2 years now and I bought 2 of them used. And I do very little pump maintenance. I did have 1 go out after a year and again it was used when I bought it. If you are reefing on a budget they are the way to go.

06/22/2018, 05:48 PM	#11
outssider Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Reseda, Ca. Posts: 1,717	he wants the power chord outside the tank, so all this chatter about Jebao is irrelevant

06/26/2018, 05:24 AM	#16
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	Post a photo of them. Unless some prototype never marketed or sold only the mounting magnet is dry. The motor is in the tank as is the cord from it. __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(

06/26/2018, 01:09 PM	#19
laverda Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 6,902	I did not say it was like a vortech. I will dig them out and post some photos. __________________ 240G mixed reef, 29G SPS/LPS clam tank, 50G mixed reef Current Tank Info: 300g mixed reef, 50g cube

06/26/2018, 01:18 PM	#20
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	Ah. No need for the photos. The OP asked about knock-off Vortech. __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(

06/26/2018, 04:51 PM	#21
outssider Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Reseda, Ca. Posts: 1,717	I don't know how in the world vortech got a paten for this idea. This technology has been around 50 years. When I was a kid I had a filter that had the motor on the bottom of a filter with a magnet attached to the shaft. It had an impeller with a magnet on the inside. Same exact idea as the vortech. It was called a dynaflow….any of you old timers remember this filter.....?????

06/29/2018, 05:59 AM	#25
youpey Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: hightstown, NJ Posts: 262	i must have been mistaken in thinking there was another like the vortech, but at a much cheaper price. i thought i remembered speaking with someone who had them. maybe they were vortech but got them second hand?? i dont know. i ended up buying a korelea nano thanks guys __________________ 16gal Biocube LED - New setup Current Tank Info: 14gal nano