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11/26/2008, 07:39 AM | #1 |
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Need feedback for my new reef Setup
Folks I´m from Brazil and very sorry for my terrible english.
I`m building my first (BIG) reef and if you could help me on some points, would be really important for me. Setup:290 Gal tank and 170 Sump (total 460 gal) Size: 8,79 x 2,3 x 2,3 (feet) or 105 x x 27,5 x 27,5 (inches) As energy here is almost two times more expensive then USA I have to be really worried with energy bills. that´s the initial setup: Circulation: 1- Four tunze Turbelles 6045 for circulation 2- One Refloo 2000 GPH for return Ilumination: 1- Three 250W HQI 2- Four t5 80W geismann Skimmer: 1- One 9440 Tunze Master Doc Skimmer 2- One 9020 Tunze Skimmer Live Stock 1- Samoa Pink Sand on the display 2- 352 pounds of live rock (originaly from Brazil) 3- Crushed Coral in the SUMP for the refugium Tempreature 1- Aquanetics 3/4 HP Thank you very much for any comment and suggestion. Best regards. |
11/26/2008, 08:13 AM | #2 |
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are you able to use natural lighting, solar tubes or sky light?
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11/26/2008, 08:46 AM | #3 |
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Saludos from Jersey City, New Jersey!
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11/26/2008, 10:17 AM | #4 |
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Unfortunately the reef is in the lower part of a three floor house. As here in Brazil (don´ t ask me why) all the floors are done with concrete 3 foot thin there is no way to use solar tubes (that should be great)
So here are some pictures of the place (still finishing) Initial start Two months Ago Now And the SUMP area Sorry for the mess and bad pictures. |
11/26/2008, 10:33 AM | #5 |
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That room is going to look good! I consider a concrete house real construction, compared to the use of sheet rock on aluminun beams as here in the U.S., so your fortunate; the floor will hold the weight.
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11/26/2008, 11:05 AM | #6 |
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The room have 172 square feet and Is good for my purposes... the idea is to have the SUMP in the middle So I can easily access what I need...
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11/26/2008, 11:44 AM | #7 |
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have you considered a light rail? there are several rc'ers here who have had good success using much less electricity by using one or two moving lights suspended on a rail
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Hy Elliott.... very good advices... and searching here I saw those rail systems... but Brazil is almos another world where equipments like this take years to be available and with enought knoledge to deploy and support.
I searched for companyes that could send it to me, but Brazil is usually out of their distribution list. (imagine the hell should be support here) Thanks a lot for the support
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11/26/2008, 12:50 PM | #9 |
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Carlos, just find the product you want, if they won't ship to you send me a private message (pm tab above) and I'll receive the item and ship it to you, no big deal
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Rodney Dangerfield - "I worked in a pet store and people would ask how big I would get." TOTM, March 2015 Current Tank Info: tank video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va1dI7mdnGU ,900g in wall mixed reef, another 500g sumps, 19 AI Sol LED's, 2 CL's w/VFD's controlled pumps to 24 eductors, 2 Tunze WB's, 2 Barr 5220's and RK2 25PE and BK500, etc |
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Thank you very much for your kind support !!
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11/26/2008, 01:15 PM | #11 |
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sorry double post
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11/26/2008, 01:17 PM | #13 |
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One of my concerns is if two skimmers working together are OK, and if those Tunze Skimmers are well suited for my reef tank...
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11/28/2008, 07:11 AM | #16 |
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Elliott thanks for the advise on the skimmer...
Just a picture of my actual reef: (150 Gal system) Got the price of my new glass and unfotrunatelly Saphire is not an option here... (just to have an idea... only the front Glass would cost about US$2.000,00 and take four weeks to arrive) the system will be mounted in my house so transportation issues will be avoided. Best regards. |
11/28/2008, 08:45 AM | #17 |
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lools very nice Carlos, can you give us a list of your equipment and maybe a picture or two?
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Some new pictures of the place...
Sump area Frontal View updated My actual tank is not big enought to be here... My pictures are bad also... and corals are not really happy with 3 x 150W HQI... but here are some pictures... Best regards |
12/02/2008, 07:44 AM | #19 |
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And some "from this to that" (6 month period) corals pictures
FROM TO FROM TO FROM TO FROM TO Best regards |
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very nice, looks like a great setup in the works
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That´s the sump area design...
hope to receive any advice on that... best regards. |
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could you explain each step starting with water in, why the six houses, three anual renews, and reason for not skimming first at the water in area? thanks
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OK...
1- the light blue is the decanter, where the water flows from the botton to the upper and usually the "dust" stay ther don´t going to the rest of the SUMP. 2- the dark blue area is where the Denitrator and calcium system (jaubert) stays, where I have three separate areas with 4in substrate that will create a low oxigen zone with low PH and removes Nitrate and also ads calcium to the system... As this area tends to stop working with the time we create three separate divisinos and renew one each year. 3- the yellow area is also the largest one and that´s why is where I place Skimmer, carbon, Calcium reactor and etc... 4- Bubble break 5- refugium with algae and substrate. Hope you can understand my terrible english. Best regards.
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makes sense, I like it, have you had experience running this sump configuration? does it work well?
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