Heater Placement: In sump or tank, and why? - Page 2

das75 · 12/25/2009, 12:33 PM

thought that was part of the idea of a sump, to hid stuff like heaters.

Got mine in the sump and with 1000gph return the warm water makes it's way around.

d_icemand · 12/25/2009, 12:37 PM

I have one in the overflow box and the other in the sump. I was worried about the one in my acrylic sump getting too hot so I zip tied it to a couple of rocks in the sump so that it wasn't touching any acrylic.

podcar · 12/25/2009, 04:50 PM

All equipment goes in the sump for me.

RegalAngel · 12/25/2009, 05:17 PM

Two 400w heaters in my overflow area at the end of my 300g peninsula tank.

jet tank · 12/25/2009, 07:58 PM

Mine is in my overflow box. Sump was not big enough for a 400w.

Aqua Keepers · 12/25/2009, 08:23 PM

When is heater technology gonna follow the trend of every other product and go smaller with more efficiency? By now we should have 20w heaters the size of a dime that could heat a 200g tank and be hidden behind a small piece of rubble rock?

I'm such a dreamer!!!

GP · 12/26/2009, 10:25 AM

For even temperature distribution in the tank, I leave mine in the sump. Looks alot cleaner as well.

deputydog95 · 12/12/2018, 10:07 AM

I'm surprised so many people keep their heaters exclusively in the sump...

I agree that the heaters are not sexy, but if you go with two smaller heaters instead of one large you can hide them pretty well. Not to mention, if your return pump quits and you're not around to do anything about it, you're hosed.

I run a single large heater right now, but just bought two smaller heaters which equal th same wattage. I run the large one in the DT and will run the two smaller ones in the DT, on either side of the overflow in the DT. My tank can drop 2-3 degrees even during water changes if the heater is off, so it makes the most sense for me to have the heaters and the controller probe in the DT to ensure I keep the temp as stable as possible.

One thing I haven't decided on yet, is how to run the heaters... I can either use a Y splitter and run them off the same Apex outlet, or I can have them on their own Apex outlets and program one to run at a specific temp and if the heater can't keep up, the second one then comes on at a slightly lower temp as a backup.

Thoughts?

paal · 12/12/2018, 11:18 AM

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If return pump -failure is a concern, just run two of them

The only equipment that goes into the display tank are non-intrusive circulation pumps. Everything else is placed in the sump (including 2x heaters)

gargoylenest · 12/13/2018, 07:33 AM

800w in the sump, temp sensor in the tank

Dmorty217 · 12/14/2018, 09:52 AM

Heater in the sump and the temp probe in the overflow. Getting ready to do a radiant heat system using my gas water heater

ca1ore · 12/14/2018, 06:08 PM

I wonder if the OP has decided yet .... only been 9 years

I hate equipment and wires in the display, so it’s sump for me. It’s one if the main benefits of a sump. I suppose if I ran a dodgy quality DC pump I might feel differently, but my PanWorld is decade reliable, so I really don’t worry about it failing. Plus, if it does, I keep a drop in replacement on hand.

tkeracer619 · 12/17/2018, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramses66

Where do you find a 800 watt heater??

Finnex Titanium more than likely.

I prefer to have more lower wattage heaters. At least 2 but preferably 3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ca1ore

I wonder if the OP has decided yet ....

oy

lionfish300 · 01/11/2019, 10:48 PM

[QUOTE=ca1ore;25533780]I wonder if the OP has decided yet .... only been 9 years :lol That is funny

tkeracer619 · 01/17/2019, 02:43 AM

[QUOTE=lionfish300;25544654]

Quote:

Originally Posted by ca1ore

I wonder if the OP has decided yet .... only been 9 years :lol That is funny

Haha.

12/25/2009, 12:37 PM	#27
d_icemand Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Godfrey, IL Posts: 848	I have one in the overflow box and the other in the sump. I was worried about the one in my acrylic sump getting too hot so I zip tied it to a couple of rocks in the sump so that it wasn't touching any acrylic. __________________ The 1961 california ferrari 250 GT, Less than a 100 were made. My father spent years restoring.......... Current Tank Info: Oceanic Tech 120RR. ATB Flow Star 1500 return pump. ATB 840 cone skimmer. Sunblaze t5 hood.

12/12/2018, 10:07 AM	#33
deputydog95 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 966	I'm surprised so many people keep their heaters exclusively in the sump... I agree that the heaters are not sexy, but if you go with two smaller heaters instead of one large you can hide them pretty well. Not to mention, if your return pump quits and you're not around to do anything about it, you're hosed. I run a single large heater right now, but just bought two smaller heaters which equal th same wattage. I run the large one in the DT and will run the two smaller ones in the DT, on either side of the overflow in the DT. My tank can drop 2-3 degrees even during water changes if the heater is off, so it makes the most sense for me to have the heaters and the controller probe in the DT to ensure I keep the temp as stable as possible. One thing I haven't decided on yet, is how to run the heaters... I can either use a Y splitter and run them off the same Apex outlet, or I can have them on their own Apex outlets and program one to run at a specific temp and if the heater can't keep up, the second one then comes on at a slightly lower temp as a backup. Thoughts? __________________ Red Sea Reefer 500 Peninsula, Apex Controller, Apex Wav (2), Apex DOS, Kessil 360WE (3), T5's (4), Kessil H160 Fuge light, RO Regal 150SSS Skimmer, RO DC Return Pump, Red Sea A&B

12/14/2018, 09:52 AM	#36
Dmorty217 Saltwater Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Vandalia OHIO Posts: 11,624	Heater in the sump and the temp probe in the overflow. Getting ready to do a radiant heat system using my gas water heater __________________ Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs Current Tank Info: 625g, 220g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs

12/14/2018, 06:08 PM	#37
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	I wonder if the OP has decided yet .... only been 9 years I hate equipment and wires in the display, so it’s sump for me. It’s one if the main benefits of a sump. I suppose if I ran a dodgy quality DC pump I might feel differently, but my PanWorld is decade reliable, so I really don’t worry about it failing. Plus, if it does, I keep a drop in replacement on hand. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

12/25/2009, 12:33 PM	#26
das75 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton AB Posts: 2,269	thought that was part of the idea of a sump, to hid stuff like heaters. Got mine in the sump and with 1000gph return the warm water makes it's way around.

12/25/2009, 04:50 PM	#28
podcar Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Suisun City, CA Posts: 122	All equipment goes in the sump for me.

12/25/2009, 07:58 PM	#30
jet tank Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Smithton Posts: 74	Mine is in my overflow box. Sump was not big enough for a 400w.

12/25/2009, 08:23 PM	#31
Aqua Keepers Moved On Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Clearwater,Fl Posts: 2,915	When is heater technology gonna follow the trend of every other product and go smaller with more efficiency? By now we should have 20w heaters the size of a dime that could heat a 200g tank and be hidden behind a small piece of rubble rock? I'm such a dreamer!!!

12/26/2009, 10:25 AM	#32
GP Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Huntington Beach,CA Posts: 154	For even temperature distribution in the tank, I leave mine in the sump. Looks alot cleaner as well.

12/12/2018, 11:18 AM	#34
paal Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Norway Posts: 368	^ If return pump -failure is a concern, just run two of them The only equipment that goes into the display tank are non-intrusive circulation pumps. Everything else is placed in the sump (including 2x heaters)

12/13/2018, 07:33 AM	#35
gargoylenest Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: montreal,canada Posts: 135	800w in the sump, temp sensor in the tank

01/11/2019, 10:48 PM	#39
lionfish300 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico Posts: 795	[QUOTE=ca1ore;25533780]I wonder if the OP has decided yet .... only been 9 years :lol That is funny