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Unread 03/28/2017, 06:11 AM   #276
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I am wondering since balancing. Can we increase the concentration of kh buffer in component 2 to increase the kh rather than dosing separately additional kh buffer. Will it react with other chemical in c2 n cause issues?


Personally I wouldn't do it and have not done it that way. I'd rather be in control of known values and adjust accordingly.

That's not saying it's not possible but for me I like to play it safe.

I think your best served by balancing your system out first and then matching your Alkalinity consumption. Once you've done that then dose all three components matching that of your alkalinity or component +2.

I talk a little bit about this in a video I recently put together . Here is a link .


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Unread 03/28/2017, 08:10 AM   #277
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Hi 120reefer! Nice video and appreciate your valuable inputs! Thank you 😃

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Unread 03/28/2017, 08:33 AM   #278
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Hi 120reefer! Nice video and appreciate your valuable inputs! Thank you

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Unread 03/28/2017, 08:40 AM   #279
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Unread 03/28/2017, 08:42 AM   #280
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Unread 03/28/2017, 10:36 AM   #281
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http://aquaforest.eu/en/product/component-1-2-3/

Why was the product changed?
I got the white canister delivered today.

How is component 3+ dosed?


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Unread 03/28/2017, 03:20 PM   #282
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http://aquaforest.eu/en/product/component-1-2-3/

Why was the product changed?
I got the white canister delivered today.

How is component 3+ dosed?


The product was not changed as far as I know. The photo is just a different package.

Component +3 is dosed in an equal amount to the other 2 components.


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Unread 03/28/2017, 11:36 PM   #283
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The composition of the component 2 + 3 + has changed


Component 1+ contains:
Ca, Sr, Ba, Co, Mn, Cu, Fe, Zn, Ni, Cr (50ml raises of 9 mg Ca in 100L/27 US gal).

Component 2+ contains:
NaHCO3, F, I (50ml raises the KH of 1,3 dKH-Alk 0,46 meg/l in 100L/ 27 US gal).

Component 3+ contains:
Mg, mineral salts and K, B (50ml raises of 0,6 mg Mg in 100L/ 27 US gal).


In the same amount
I would have to dosing now. Component 1+ 110ml and component 2+ 65ml.


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Unread 03/29/2017, 12:17 AM   #284
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I see no chemistry changes at all on the components.



Only packaging change.

I looked at the guide, and multiple web pages that sell Aquaforest components 1+,2+,+3

This image is from the guide.




This is from the website.


This is from vendors.






All say the same thing.

Can you send me a pic of your components showing what changed?




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Unread 03/29/2017, 01:35 AM   #285
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In the new version MG seems to be in the component 3+


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In the new version MG seems to be in the component 3+


I see on the website it says that, but in the guide it does not. Interesting.

I don't believe that it's changed but maybe I can find out .


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Unread 03/29/2017, 05:46 AM   #287
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I just received a new component package. It came in those purple jars but the components detail are same as earlier. From the website it says Mg is in component 3 now. Possibly they already released that in Europe but not yet in USA.


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In the new version MG seems to be in the component 3+


I have an answer for you. The answer is that the description on the website will be changed.


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I have an answer for you. The answer is that the description on the website has been changed.


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Unread 03/29/2017, 07:16 AM   #290
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Has already happened. Thank you


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Can anyone tell me if exposure to light/heat causes adverse effects? I'm seeing a brown slime in my components (mostly 1). They're in the garage and get indirect sunlight and heat.


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Can anyone tell me if exposure to light/heat causes adverse effects? I'm seeing a brown slime in my components (mostly 1). They're in the garage and get indirect sunlight and heat.
Its not light or it, the component 1 has iron in it which sometime precipitate and its brown in colour. Just stir it once in a couple of days and you are good.


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I believe the new formulation will obeys the old recipe? Anyone?


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I believe the new formulation will obeys the old recipe? Anyone?


No official announcement has been made yet.

We will definitely keep you informed if any changes occur and exactly what they mean if there are any made.


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Unread 04/04/2017, 08:25 AM   #296
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Hi 120reefer, just a quick check. I am using 25ml each daily of com 1, 2 ,3. My para are cal @400, mg @1350.
I just read from AF website.. "Typical aquarium with average number of hard corals requires approximately 50ml of each component per 100 l (27 US gal) of water daily"
So given my 350L tank inclusive of slump tank and my 70% filled sps. Should i further increase my dosage of com 1,2,3 to match AF suggestion? Thanks in advance.

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Hi 120reefer, just a quick check. I am using 25ml each daily of com 1, 2 ,3. My para are cal @400, mg @1350.
I just read from AF website.. "Typical aquarium with average number of hard corals requires approximately 50ml of each component per 100 l (27 US gal) of water daily"
So given my 350L tank inclusive of slump tank and my 70% filled sps. Should i further increase my dosage of com 1,2,3 to match AF suggestion? Thanks in advance.

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What you want to do is match your components +1 and +3 to the +2 consumption.

The +2 is the alkalinity component so if your consumption of +2 is 25ml per day then you match the +1,+3 @25ml.

Once you have your alkalinity stable where you want it then you just match it


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Unread 04/04/2017, 05:03 PM   #298
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Hi 120reefer, thanks again for the sharing. I am again just curious to what dosing volume should i stop increasing c1,2,3 if i am still unable to bring up my kh? 175ml? For my 350l tank? And add in additional kh buffer in a separate container and start dosing to bring up the kh?


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Unread 04/04/2017, 07:19 PM   #299
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Aquaforest products- Component 1+2+3+

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Hi 120reefer, thanks again for the sharing. I am again just curious to what dosing volume should i stop increasing c1,2,3 if i am still unable to bring up my kh? 175ml? For my 350l tank? And add in additional kh buffer in a separate container and start dosing to bring up the kh?


You are correct. If you want to bring up your KH you can dose this separately. My personal recommendation is to not increase the DKH more than 1DKH per 24 hour period.

What is your current DKH level? What is your current Calcium level? What is your current Magnesium level?

I will help you stabilize your system

So basically before you start dosing the components 1+, 2+, 3+ you will need to adjust your levels manually to get your system stable. Then once you are stable if your alkalinity or dkh continues to drop you will have to increase the dosing of component +2 to meet the demand.

But first we need to find out how much DKH per day your tank is consuming.

This is where we will start.

So we will need to know what your DKH is today and then we test again tomorrow 24 hours later .




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Unread 04/04/2017, 09:23 PM   #300
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Hi 120reefer. My para are as. Kh 7.7, cal 400 and mg 1350. Tested with salifert test kit. My current component 1 2 3 are at 26ml each daily (1.1ml hry). In additional, i dose kh buffer at 50ml daily ( 2.1ml hrly)


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