Radion Gen 4 Pro

[05cummins]

If you look at first line of listing it redirects you to XR30w Gen 3 pro

[maxxII]

Originally Posted by Wombat_101

Well marine depot is listing the XR30w pro as discontinued so looks like a new model should be coming soon. They do not list the XR30w non-pro as discontinued though. I will hold off until another month to see what happens.

http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewIt...&child=EM58491

From your link:

EcoTech Marine Radion XR30w Pro LED Light Fixture Information


EcoTech Marine A newer version of this product can be found at EcoTech Marine Radion Gen3 Pro:http://www.marinedepot.com/EcoTech_M...M58700-vi.html

You're confusing the Gen2 Pro, (what you linked to), and the Gen 3 Pro, (still for sale)

[brainchild24]

I guess no change in model...

[Wombat_101]

good catch maxxII, I just saw the discontinued and never looked further down the page.

[maxxII]

It's all good. I've made similar mistakes myself....

[denisejoelrod]

I went Reefapalooza Orlando WOW! I had such a great time.The word is Echo Tech is going to announce the gen 4 at macna in San Diego.

[Salty150]

Originally Posted by denisejoelrod

I went Reefapalooza Orlando WOW! I had such a great time.The word is Echo Tech is going to announce the gen 4 at macna in San Diego.

OK, so that is September 9th-11th.

I assume availability will then be in January 2017?

[JTMK]

And I assume the price will be comparable to the kessil AP 700? Looks like I will have to purchase one last MH bulb...:-(

[Salty150]

Originally Posted by JTMK

And I assume the price will be comparable to the kessil AP 700? Looks like I will have to purchase one last MH bulb...:-(

Hope not, hoping the pricing is the same.

[twinturbo11]

Hey guys, any new rumors on the gen 4s ?

[Confuse]

Not sure if this is legit, but I saw this...

[louscal]

how high above the tank do they need to be mounted

[Confuse]

Originally Posted by louscal

how high above the tank do they need to be mounted

No clue. Depends on how much coverage you need.

[Salty150]

Interesting...

Looks like very few things changed...?

A new heat-sink on each side is one.

[Pny]

Originally Posted by Confuse

Not sure if this is legit, but I saw this...

It looks fake to me since several things does not look the same on the different views, the heatsink, placement of LEDs etc...

[ThurlowR]

Originally Posted by Pny

It looks fake to me since several things does not look the same on the different views, the heatsink, placement of LEDs etc...

It's real. Also some more info from another forum :
1) The fixture looks similar in design/looks but the internals have changed.

2) A G3 to G4 upgrade is not possible due to these changes

3) New heatsink, optics, and LEDs

4) New optics that are claimed to improve light spread considerably

5) Two additional channels/LEDs/colors are warm white and violet

[atlfishes]

That really sucks if they won't allow an upgrade since that has been a selling point.


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[maxxII]

Likely that it's not a matter of allowing an upgrade, but rather more likely the fact that it's not possible to upgrade the internals without losing money on the deal.

First and foremost, Eco-Tech Marine is a business.
If it cant make money, it wont remain in business.


They make a good product and have excellent customer service. I recently upgraded my Gen1's to Gen 3's. I'm happy with the upgrades and feel that the cost to upgrade was fair for what I got.

It's likely that upgrading Gen 3's to Gen 4's (if possible) would essentially entail stripping everything out of the Gen 3 and replacing it all with the Gen 4 internals.

If that is in fact the case, buying an upgrade that is very close to the price of buying a whole new fixture doesnt make sense financially to anyone.

I'll use my Gen 3's til they fall apart, and then I'll upgrade to whatever is available at the time. Hopefully, that will be an Eco-Tech product at that point, but if there is a better product at a better price, I'll look at it.

Eco-Tech's Customer service has been exemplary every time I've needed them which goes a LONG way towards future purchases from them, but like anything...they need to be continually improving and evolving their product line.

Which leads us full circle back to the Gen 4 Radion....

[jwilliams860]

Originally Posted by maxxII

Likely that it's not a matter of allowing an upgrade, but rather more likely the fact that it's not possible to upgrade the internals without losing money on the deal.

First and foremost, Eco-Tech Marine is a business.
If it cant make money, it wont remain in business.


They make a good product and have excellent customer service. I recently upgraded my Gen1's to Gen 3's. I'm happy with the upgrades and feel that the cost to upgrade was fair for what I got.

It's likely that upgrading Gen 3's to Gen 4's (if possible) would essentially entail stripping everything out of the Gen 3 and replacing it all with the Gen 4 internals.

If that is in fact the case, buying an upgrade that is very close to the price of buying a whole new fixture doesnt make sense financially to anyone.

I'll use my Gen 3's til they fall apart, and then I'll upgrade to whatever is available at the time. Hopefully, that will be an Eco-Tech product at that point, but if there is a better product at a better price, I'll look at it.

Eco-Tech's Customer service has been exemplary every time I've needed them which goes a LONG way towards future purchases from them, but like anything...they need to be continually improving and evolving their product line.

Which leads us full circle back to the Gen 4 Radion....

+1 Eventually the externals and internals are going to be compatible with the older versions, hence my sons gen 1 ipad wont play any of the new games. Eventually Im going to have to buy the new product.

The current Gen 3 Pros are an amazing light and alot of people are having great success with them, I think all of us either have those or the older versions, so its easy to upgrade to the gen 3 pro and you will still have years of good use.

We will have to wait and see what the Gen 4 "officially" looks like. If its a significant enough upgrade to justify replacing with it then it might make sense. Also if they cant swap the internals from the older version to the newer ones. The Gen 4 might be essentially the Gen 1 of the next run of lights, so having the Gen 4 would put you in line with the next batch of upgrades.

I think Ecotech has done what they initially set out to do and built a light that was upgradable, I still have my original Gen 1 and no issues, and its build date is October 2011. Almost 5 years of continued support and upgrades is almost unheard of these days. Heck even Google doesnt offer to swap the guts of my Nexus phone at a discount.

[jwilliams860]

Over on RBuilders they have some photos of the new lense design as well as news that the light will have 23 LEDs per puck.

[Dougdog]

https://************.com/2016/08/10/...w-lens-system/

[ThurlowR]

https://premiumaquatics.com/products...led-light.html

Wonder if it will work with Neptune's WXM ?

[Arkayology]

I was hoping they would put lime into the mix.

[Salty150]

I was hoping they would bring the price down.

Like all electronics when the tech ages and gets better.

Most on here have 6' long tanks (125+ gallons).

That is $2250+ in just lighting.

[fcmatt]

Originally Posted by Salty150

I was hoping they would bring the price down.

Like all electronics when the tech ages and gets better.

Most on here have 6' long tanks (125+ gallons).

That is $2250+ in just lighting.

A 5 foot powermodule ATI 8 bulb T5 with LED still costs right around that mark. So I guess that isn't too bad really when you consider other high end options.