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Unread 06/22/2016, 01:01 AM   #1
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Can Baker's yeast treat a Diatom outbreak?

I found this video saying that you can treat a diatom bloom with Baker's yeast. I was wondering if anyone had ever heard of this before or tried it?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=de...&v=VrUjMlt86ag

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Unread 07/10/2016, 03:40 AM   #2
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I start using it also on 16gallon 3 month nuvo.. it is 2 days now will see how it goes


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Unread 07/10/2016, 11:45 AM   #3
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Wow... very interesting...


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Unread 07/11/2016, 10:03 AM   #4
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I have a newly setup 300 gallon tank and just like them cycled but still have diatoms. I'm going to try this and report back in 1-2 weeks.


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Unread 07/11/2016, 10:37 AM   #5
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I have a newly setup 300 gallon tank and just like them cycled but still have diatoms. I'm going to try this and report back in 1-2 weeks.
According to Vivid Aquariums - it took them no more than 5-7 days on their 800 gallon aquarium - and all of their other aquariums they used it on...

It is 1/4 teaspoon of Fleischmann's RapidRise Yeast per 400 gallons (total water volume) - every other day.


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Unread 07/11/2016, 08:16 PM   #6
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Worked for me!


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Unread 07/12/2016, 06:38 AM   #7
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Does it have any effect on other algaes?


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Unread 07/12/2016, 10:45 AM   #8
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This is actually very interesting.

Wonder "how" it works.

Does the yeast eat whatever is in the water that the diatoms need...


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Unread 07/13/2016, 09:23 AM   #9
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It also worked for me, eliminated diatoms in 3 treatments 6 days

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Unread 07/13/2016, 10:40 AM   #10
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I throw just a few dust in the back of nuvo 16 and it seems beter but same of it consumed by fish is it ok i wonder...


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Unread 07/13/2016, 11:23 AM   #11
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It also worked for me, eliminated diatoms in 3 treatments 6 days

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Unread 07/13/2016, 05:13 PM   #12
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I do not see how the yeast would help, and if it did you would not need to add yeast becuase yeast is everywhere, on just about everything.


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Unread 07/13/2016, 05:17 PM   #13
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Well, the fact is, it appears that it does...


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Unread 07/14/2016, 06:03 AM   #14
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I linked this thread to a new one in the Reef Chemistry Forum and everybody over there says it can't work. Yeast has a low enough tolerance to salt solutions that in a saltwater aquarium the yeast will die very quickly. Personally, I'm not buying it either.

I want somebody to explain how or why it works. Without a scientific explanation, it's just a anecdote, a story with no foundation.


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Unread 07/14/2016, 07:23 AM   #15
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Only thing I can think of is a certain compound released upon the death of yeast that manages to kill diatoms... of course, this is a wild guess and does not seem likely, but it's the only logical thing I can think of. I know a few people who have tried this, worked for almost all of em...


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Unread 07/14/2016, 10:45 AM   #16
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I am so sick and tired of naysayers who NEVER tried what they claim won't work!

Everyone who has tried it says it works!

So - what is the deal?

Who do you believe - the naysayers who have never tried it; or the people who have tired it and say it works?

And BTW - Vivid Aquariums (the video that started all of this) is very respected. If the guy says it worked on ALL of the tanks he tried it on - it did!




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Unread 07/14/2016, 11:58 AM   #17
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I am so sick and tired of naysayers who NEVER tried what they claim won't work!

Everyone who has tried it says it works!

So - what is the deal?

Who do you believe - the naysayers who have never tried it; or the people who have tired it and say it works?

And BTW - Vivid Aquariums (the video that started all of this) is very respected. If the guy says it worked on ALL of the tanks he tried it on - it did!

I guess I am one of the naysayers

Anyways the question is, is the yeast actually doing anything here or is it the substance the yeast is encased in that is doing it?

Personally I brew beer and make my own wines and I have a hard time believe it is actually the yeast doing it, especially bread yeast. Bread yeast is easy to kill off compared to a champagne yeast or turbo yeast.


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Unread 07/14/2016, 06:38 PM   #18
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LOL, so you are basically calling everyone who has stated it worked for them... a liar...


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Unread 07/14/2016, 08:07 PM   #19
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I don't know why it worked but it did for me.


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Unread 07/14/2016, 10:42 PM   #20
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this couldn't be easier to test, just put some of the yeast in a pint of rodi water with a 1/8 teaspoon of sugar and wait for a few days. Do the same using tank water instead of rodi in another container. See if they come out different.

I was a baker, salt kills yeast. Also, diatoms aren't even that big a deal. Also, I like when people start threads asking questions and then call people that disagree with them names. That always turns out so well.

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Everyone who has tried it says it works!
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Unread 07/15/2016, 07:55 AM   #21
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Ok so I just put in the last dose (3rd one EOD). While the diatoms on the glass/sand didn't just disappear yet they certainly appear to be going away. I wound up cleaning my glass and sand last night (have guests coming over) so the true test will be to see how quickly they come back if at all now.


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Unread 07/15/2016, 08:31 AM   #22
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I wound up cleaning my glass and sand last night (have guests coming over) so the true test will be to see how quickly they come back if at all now.
No, because diatoms go away on their own. You have no control group.


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Unread 07/15/2016, 08:36 AM   #23
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this couldn't be easier to test, just put some of the yeast in a pint of rodi water with a 1/8 teaspoon of sugar and wait for a few days. Do the same using tank water instead of rodi in another container. See if they come out different.

I was a baker, salt kills yeast. Also, diatoms aren't even that big a deal. Also, I like when people start threads asking questions and then call people that disagree with them names. That always turns out so well.


Prove that statement
First of all - salt in high concentration kills yeast...

And who knows, maybe the process of killing the yeast (if saltwater indeed does that) is what makes the diatoms go away... we have no idea why it works.

And as far as proving anything - did you read the thread?

Everyone who has responded that has done it says it works.

The owner of Vivid Aquariums - very respected in his hobby - says it worked on ALL of the tanks he has tried it on.

So, again, everyone who has responded and done it says it works - the only naysayers are those who haven't done it.


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Unread 07/31/2016, 08:32 AM   #24
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I have been thinking about trying rhis as well but I can't figure out the dosage. I have a Nuvo 10 and was thinking just a few pellets at a time. Also, does it have to be that brand and rapid rise? I have bakers corner active dry yeast now. I could pick up the rapid rise as well.


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Unread 08/01/2016, 12:15 AM   #25
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No just a bakers yeast try 3 times in seven days add a pinch like puting salt. But not in the main tank because the fish will eat it 😃.

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