My new 450 Gal "pail" - Page 10

mroccoralman · 08/17/2011, 02:00 PM

Your tank is absolutely beautiful keep all the pics coming by the way I think your a little to hard on yourself your tank looks amzing lol. Looks like it took alot of hard work.

jpsika08 · 08/17/2011, 02:02 PM

Amazing tank, congrats

bloodshrimp · 08/30/2011, 03:10 PM

If you have to do it over, would you choose PR156 or DIF-100 pendant?

I am trying to decide on four PR156-w-UV or Three DIF-100 18000K + Two DIF-50 Blue+UV for my 72Lx36Wx27H Tank.

What would be your recommendation base on experience with both products?

bmco · 08/31/2011, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodshrimp

If you have to do it over, would you choose PR156 or DIF-100 pendant?

I am trying to decide on four PR156-w-UV or Three DIF-100 18000K + Two DIF-50 Blue+UV for my 72Lx36Wx27H Tank.

What would be your recommendation base on experience with both products?

I think that Three DIF-100 18000K + Two DIF-50 Blue+UV for 72Lx36Wx27H tank will be great setup, especially thanks to the wider spread of the DIF units.
I have a very deep tank and needed narrower lens for deeper penetration and more units to cover in (PR156). I'm using 2 DIF100B as an actinic addition.

qualitydaydream · 09/05/2011, 04:31 PM

Hi BMCO,

Orphek insists 2 x PR-156W's for my 72" long X 24" wide x 30" tall Tank.

10-24" off the water is suggested for proper spread.

I was thinking I would need 3-4 but several times they said 2 W's would do it and still grow SPS at the bottom very well.

What's your take on this also how do you feel about the way they are mounted to the ceiling? If you could do that part again what would you do?

My concern is that if I'm sitting below tank level and looking at the tank the LED's will glare into my eyes.

bmco · 09/06/2011, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qualitydaydream

Hi BMCO,

Orphek insists 2 x PR-156W's for my 72" long X 24" wide x 30" tall Tank.

10-24" off the water is suggested for proper spread.

I was thinking I would need 3-4 but several times they said 2 W's would do it and still grow SPS at the bottom very well.

What's your take on this also how do you feel about the way they are mounted to the ceiling? If you could do that part again what would you do?

My concern is that if I'm sitting below tank level and looking at the tank the LED's will glare into my eyes.

Hi

For your tank sizes I'd recommend 4 unit of DIF156 since you want to grow SPS corals and need wider area spread of light. You should consider their PR100 light fixtures too.

My fixtures don't really glare into my eyes since led light is not spread that wide. Think of a "laser beam" effect. My MH fixtures were glaring much more.

Vanpire · 09/06/2011, 11:08 PM

I really appreciate your documenation of your experience with LEDs. Fantastic.

I have a question. Do you think the less algae growth on the side of your tank is due to the focus of LEDs or the actual spectrum. You mentioned that there is la lasor focus and much less "stray" light.

I am just wondering the algae within the corals requires different lighting spectrum than the algae that grows on the side of your aquarium.

bmco · 09/08/2011, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanpire

Do you think the less algae growth on the side of your tank is due to the focus of LEDs or the actual spectrum.

I am just wondering the algae within the corals requires different lighting spectrum than the algae that grows on the side of your aquarium.

Both.
I can't say which factor has more responsibility for this outcome but in fact, algae growth has declined significantly.
I guess both, PUR and lack of light on the front and side glass helped.

Maybe high PUR or Photosynthetically Usable Radiation is that fraction of PAR that is absorbed by zooxanthellae has less effect on algae (Chlorophyll photosynthesis).

Vanpire · 09/08/2011, 01:32 PM

Sounds great. I checked with some of the other colleagues who uses LEDs (DIY) and they also reported a reduction in the algae in the front glass.

Do you also notice a reduction in the coraline algae growth in your front and side glass. This is actual more annoying to me than regular algae since I can easily use my magnet cleaner to get rid of standard green algae.

bmco · 09/08/2011, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanpire

Do you also notice a reduction in the coraline algae growth in your front and side glass. This is actual more annoying to me than regular algae since I can easily use my magnet cleaner to get rid of standard green algae.

Actually I did.
I have few coraline algae dots which I clean every 2 month.

amfynn · 09/28/2011, 01:47 AM

Fantastic setup bmco!

I'm also in a quandry, deciding on the LED route.

Whats your take on these units in support of SPS, healthy growth and their colour? I've always been a MH fan, I've had good colouration from my 400w units. My system is mostly SPS, and is in full sunlight (I only use the MH lighting unit, for 4 months of year in winter). The foot print of these units (the PR-156W's) appeal to me as it will allso allow the corals to get sun during the day, although its night time 5-6 hours max, when I want to view the tank that I want un-natural light.

Your input on the quantity? I have a Rimless, 78inch length x 40inch wide x 26inch height.

thanks.

bmco · 09/28/2011, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amfynn

Fantastic setup bmco!

I'm also in a quandry, deciding on the LED route.

Whats your take on these units in support of SPS, healthy growth and their colour? I've always been a MH fan, I've had good colouration from my 400w units. My system is mostly SPS, and is in full sunlight (I only use the MH lighting unit, for 4 months of year in winter). The foot print of these units (the PR-156W's) appeal to me as it will allso allow the corals to get sun during the day, although its night time 5-6 hours max, when I want to view the tank that I want un-natural light.

Your input on the quantity? I have a Rimless, 78inch length x 40inch wide x 26inch height.

thanks.

Metal Halides work great. Very good light and very wide spread.
Led can replace them and in your case and can grow SPS coral successfully.
colors and growth achieved even better than MH. Just pay attention to KH and CA levels due to high demand.
I'd use 5 units for your tank size, but using sun light as you describe can reduce to 4 units in my opinion.

rehab · 09/29/2011, 05:36 AM

Very nice tank. Make it more convincing for me to go LED in the future for light upgrade.

Fishie fishie · 12/26/2011, 01:03 AM

Hi bmco
Your reef tank has been an inspiration to me, thank you !
I am currently designing a system of similar size and have used a few of your great ideas.
Any chance of some updated photos?
Thanks again
Theon Bruse

bmco · 12/26/2011, 02:48 PM

Hi

Sorry, no new photos but you can watch my latest video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9nAAdBhm6M

bdwilson · 12/26/2011, 03:15 PM

Just watched the video. That's an amazing tank! Congrats!

Big_Al · 12/26/2011, 03:23 PM

That's one fantastic display for sure.

Fishie fishie · 12/27/2011, 02:12 AM

Hi Moshik
Thanks for posting the video, your reef is looking better than ever! The quality of the video was tempting me to put it up on my hd tv and watch it with surround sound....soon I won't have to dream and will have my own little under water world to gaze at! Ha ha!

Quick question...what did you use to glue the acrylic strips to the base and are they holding well?
I guess there is not a lot to cause them to move. A great idea that I have taken from you...thanks, but mine will be fed from the closed loop line.
Thanks again and all the best for 2012!
Theon Bruse

Jamie9169 · 12/27/2011, 06:36 AM

Everything looks fantastic. What a great build and beautiful system.

bmco · 12/28/2011, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishie fishie

Hi Moshik
Thanks for posting the video, your reef is looking better than ever! The quality of the video was tempting me to put it up on my hd tv and watch it with surround sound....soon I won't have to dream and will have my own little under water world to gaze at! Ha ha!

Quick question...what did you use to glue the acrylic strips to the base and are they holding well?
I guess there is not a lot to cause them to move. A great idea that I have taken from you...thanks, but mine will be fed from the closed loop line.
Thanks again and all the best for 2012!
Theon Bruse

The acrylic stripes where glued to base horizontal stripe. These were siliconed to the bottom glass. It never moved.
I recommend very strong streams under the rocks. without them, These stripes can be a cage for detritus and powder and in the long run a source of Phosphate and Nitrate.

Fishie fishie · 12/30/2011, 07:28 AM

Agreed and thank you

Dr.Reef · 02/25/2012, 11:37 AM

Hi,

Nice Tank ^_^

After using the Orpheks for some time ... is it still as good as the first day you used it or it or it changed ??

and have you faced any problems with it at all ??

Thank you,

DrBegalke · 02/25/2012, 01:03 PM

Nice tank!

bmco · 02/25/2012, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Reef

Hi,

Nice Tank ^_^

After using the Orpheks for some time ... is it still as good as the first day you used it or it or it changed ??

and have you faced any problems with it at all ??

Thank you,

Thanks

I can't say I see any difference from the first day I used it.
Never had a problem with the diodes( no bulbs), none ever burnt.
I had a problem with one timer, which was replaced simply and immediately by their service.

Bowels · 02/26/2012, 12:14 AM

OH MY GOD, this tank literally took my breath away lol, flabbergasted. So amazing, Poseidon would be jealous. lol I am surprised you have money left over for that stair railing and living room furniture! So beautiful man!

08/17/2011, 02:02 PM	#227
jpsika08 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Guatemala, Central America Posts: 555	Amazing tank, congrats __________________ - Juan

09/06/2011, 11:08 PM	#232
Vanpire Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,134	I really appreciate your documenation of your experience with LEDs. Fantastic. I have a question. Do you think the less algae growth on the side of your tank is due to the focus of LEDs or the actual spectrum. You mentioned that there is la lasor focus and much less "stray" light. I am just wondering the algae within the corals requires different lighting spectrum than the algae that grows on the side of your aquarium. __________________ Today is a good day. Tomorrow will be even better.

09/08/2011, 01:32 PM	#234
Vanpire Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,134	Sounds great. I checked with some of the other colleagues who uses LEDs (DIY) and they also reported a reduction in the algae in the front glass. Do you also notice a reduction in the coraline algae growth in your front and side glass. This is actual more annoying to me than regular algae since I can easily use my magnet cleaner to get rid of standard green algae. __________________ Today is a good day. Tomorrow will be even better.

09/28/2011, 01:47 AM	#236
amfynn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 382	Fantastic setup bmco! I'm also in a quandry, deciding on the LED route. Whats your take on these units in support of SPS, healthy growth and their colour? I've always been a MH fan, I've had good colouration from my 400w units. My system is mostly SPS, and is in full sunlight (I only use the MH lighting unit, for 4 months of year in winter). The foot print of these units (the PR-156W's) appeal to me as it will allso allow the corals to get sun during the day, although its night time 5-6 hours max, when I want to view the tank that I want un-natural light. Your input on the quantity? I have a Rimless, 78inch length x 40inch wide x 26inch height. thanks. __________________ Adee Current Tank Info: Orphek Atlantik LED (x4) lit SPS system, total volume 660 gal. (2500L). Includes a 317 gal. (1200L) Starphire rimless display, 160 gallon (600L) nursery tank & 1000lb's (500kg's) of live rock, 2x ReefOcto 5000 skimmers, ATS , DSB & loads of Chaeto

12/27/2011, 06:36 AM	#244
Jamie9169 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas City, TX Posts: 73	Everything looks fantastic. What a great build and beautiful system. __________________ Jamie Teague Current Tank Info: 200 DD Reef

08/17/2011, 02:00 PM	#226
mroccoralman Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cypress Posts: 280	Your tank is absolutely beautiful keep all the pics coming by the way I think your a little to hard on yourself your tank looks amzing lol. Looks like it took alot of hard work.

08/30/2011, 03:10 PM	#228
bloodshrimp Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 11	If you have to do it over, would you choose PR156 or DIF-100 pendant? I am trying to decide on four PR156-w-UV or Three DIF-100 18000K + Two DIF-50 Blue+UV for my 72Lx36Wx27H Tank. What would be your recommendation base on experience with both products?

09/05/2011, 04:31 PM	#230
qualitydaydream Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 16	Hi BMCO, Orphek insists 2 x PR-156W's for my 72" long X 24" wide x 30" tall Tank. 10-24" off the water is suggested for proper spread. I was thinking I would need 3-4 but several times they said 2 W's would do it and still grow SPS at the bottom very well. What's your take on this also how do you feel about the way they are mounted to the ceiling? If you could do that part again what would you do? My concern is that if I'm sitting below tank level and looking at the tank the LED's will glare into my eyes.

09/29/2011, 05:36 AM	#238
rehab Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 88	Very nice tank. Make it more convincing for me to go LED in the future for light upgrade.

12/26/2011, 01:03 AM	#239
Fishie fishie Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Adelaide Australia Posts: 6	Hi bmco Your reef tank has been an inspiration to me, thank you ! I am currently designing a system of similar size and have used a few of your great ideas. Any chance of some updated photos? Thanks again Theon Bruse

12/26/2011, 02:48 PM	#240
bmco Always deep under Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Il Posts: 128	Hi Sorry, no new photos but you can watch my latest video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9nAAdBhm6M

12/26/2011, 03:15 PM	#241
bdwilson Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Council Bluffs, IA Posts: 77	Just watched the video. That's an amazing tank! Congrats!

12/26/2011, 03:23 PM	#242
Big_Al Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 49	That's one fantastic display for sure.

12/27/2011, 02:12 AM	#243
Fishie fishie Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Adelaide Australia Posts: 6	Hi Moshik Thanks for posting the video, your reef is looking better than ever! The quality of the video was tempting me to put it up on my hd tv and watch it with surround sound....soon I won't have to dream and will have my own little under water world to gaze at! Ha ha! Quick question...what did you use to glue the acrylic strips to the base and are they holding well? I guess there is not a lot to cause them to move. A great idea that I have taken from you...thanks, but mine will be fed from the closed loop line. Thanks again and all the best for 2012! Theon Bruse

12/30/2011, 07:28 AM	#246
Fishie fishie Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Adelaide Australia Posts: 6	Agreed and thank you

02/25/2012, 11:37 AM	#247
Dr.Reef Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 14	Hi, Nice Tank ^_^ After using the Orpheks for some time ... is it still as good as the first day you used it or it or it changed ?? and have you faced any problems with it at all ?? Thank you,

02/25/2012, 01:03 PM	#248
DrBegalke Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Phoenix area, AZ Posts: 2,599	Nice tank! __________________ ~Jason Begalke Current Tank Info: Latest project: JBJ Cubey

02/26/2012, 12:14 AM	#250
Bowels Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 647	OH MY GOD, this tank literally took my breath away lol, flabbergasted. So amazing, Poseidon would be jealous. lol I am surprised you have money left over for that stair railing and living room furniture! So beautiful man!