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Old 12/02/2019, 05:48 PM   #1
ThePurple12
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Question Why can you keep pipefish in warmer temperatures, but not seahorses?

They're both pretty much the same except for shape, so why can pipefish thrive in 80 degree water and not seahorses/why does vibrio affect seahorses much more than pipefish?

Is it because pipefish aren't captive-bred and come straight from the tropical ocean and seahorses, generally being captive-bred, have adapted to cooler temperatures?

Or maybe wild caught pipefish and seahorses just have stronger immune systems from being exposed to vibrio?

Anyone know?


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Old 12/04/2019, 11:37 AM   #2
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IMO, the MAIN reason is that seahorses just don't have as great an immune system as the pipe fish. They are MUCH more susceptible to pathogens than pipe fish are, especially bacteria related.


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There are many families and species of pipefish and a large number of them are actually found in subtropical or temperate waters, and some even in freshwater. Seahorses, on the other hand, are predominantly found in tropical and equatorial waters. And most seahorse species prefer shallower waters with seagrass meadows. Just based on that I would think that seahorses should want it warmer and not cooler than pipefish.

The reason why people generally suggest to keep seahorses cooler is that seahorse tanks are much "dirtier" (more bacteria due to uneaten food and rather low flow) than their natural habitats (which should btw. be significantly "dirtier" than reef biotopes.)


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Actually, seahorse tanks should have great flow, with areas of high medium and low flow and hitching in each area so that they can chose just where to be at any given time. Normal recommendation is at least 10X tank volume but many of us long term keepers have flows of 20X and more.
Many seahorses come from waters that are higher in temperatures but their water is always changing. In our tanks, everything is captive including the bacteria beds that cause the seahorses so much trouble. Excessive cleaning and larger more frequent water changes help to alleviate the "dirty" water they create, but also we keep the temperatures cooler to lessen the grow of those bacteria. (68-74F)
Bacteria multiply EXPONENTIALLY with each rising degree, and it becomes much more problematic when temperature gets above 74.


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