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I'd love to come visit for a day. Just need to coordinate with the wife and kids... Holidays are especially rough. Post a thread on the shrimp. I think they're an awesome food source for fish and corals as they multiply at critical mass! I can maintain my outdoor rubbermaid tanks at 74F inside the greenhouse, but it costs 8A-18A of electricity. Average 13A = 1.5KW all day for my 450 gal system. It's $4 a day, but I hear you. Start an outdoor breeding thread and let's see what we can figure out. Here's the latest sunlit greenhouse tank: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...2653824&page=4
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12/05/2017, 07:55 AM | #27 |
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Love the overhead. Is lighting 100% sunlight? How big is greenhouse? Mine is 20’ by 40’ with an arched roof.
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Just sunlight.. get to 1700 PAR midday but the photoperiod is short.
I'm planning to supplement with UV and MH to extend the photo period. Greenhouse is tiny ~ 9' x 9'. Plastic sheet and wood/aluminum frame. Thread has more. The sandbed transport was the most harrowing part of the experience. It was not trivial to move 700lbs of wet live sand in 30 degree weather into an outdoor reef.. the 3" sand bed is now a 4-5" sand bed but I'm not touching it again for a while. Found new things living in the sand too
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Too funny.
As we dig into these established biofilters, mine at 25/years old, we disprove the naysayers concerning sandbeds as “nutrient sinks” that at some point in time will regurgitate and crash a tank. The truth of the matter is that a mature & diverse bio filter will stabilize and feed tank inhabitants. Remember Mother Nature knows best. After 5 billion years, natural systems have fine tuned back up feeding mechanisms like cynobacteria imbedded in coral biomass. When bulk water is nitrate limited, coral receive nitrate thru “nitrogen fixation” supplied by cynobacteria. How did cynobacteria know to feed coral nitrate? Also, Randy Holmes Farley wrote on “iron dosing” that it would be difficult to dose too much iron in a reef tank and that furthermore macro had iron storage mechanisms to be used when water column is iron limited. I always dose iron heaviest in red macro tumble culture. My first success with iron dosing was a dramatic color shift from pale orange red to dark vibrant maroon color in less than 24 hours. In the case of Gracilaria Hayi, the red blades are flat and lightly calcified and somewhat rigid. Not so when iron is stored in blade biomass. The blade thickness increased ten fold and was somewhat spongy feeling like it had numerous small air bladders. When deprived of excess iron, blade thickness goes back to original shape. It is reproducible with consistency.
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I think a deeper dive into detrivores is sorely lacking in reefing today.
It's like being a farmer and not caring about earthworms or bees...
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We should go deeper than the deepest detrivore. I say bacteria rule. However, if the players don’t play well then things never work out.
It’s like the joke about the differrent members of the body trying to decide who was most important. Every body had their say as to who they thought was most important. Nobody asked AH who he thought was important, so he pouted by shutting it down. When everybody else got sick with the backup, they all came to AH and gave him homages. Now, the morale is not to empower *** holes and give them homage. The moral is that everybody is important on the team.
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That is the old tale of the boss ... the a**hole
But bacteria are complicated. They're important but they can behave badly. Worms and pods really don't. Also... bacteria are limited in mechanical action- they need the larger detrivore to create water passages for exchange flow.
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Nature is complicated, intricate and sometimes fickle. If I understood more, the fickleness would go away. I so much enjoy the thought provoking input on this thread. Thank you for that. I just dosed bacteria from TLC into all of my tanks. I am in conversations with tech representatives from TLC. I have asked them for the list of differrent bacteria in their product. If only nitrifying & denitrifying bacteria, then I will use Rid X bacteria for septic tank instead of TLC.
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