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Old 06/03/2019, 01:34 PM   #1
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Persistent popeye

I have a Starcki damsel (one of 3 I have in that QT) that developed popeye on one of its eyes a couple of weeks ago.

It seems that there is gas under the eye.

The fish is otherwise healthy and active.

I already treated the tank 3 times with Epsom salt but it didn't really help.

Does anyone have another promising treatment option?


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Old 06/03/2019, 03:00 PM   #2
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For actual eye infections, erythromycin is the only ABX which has ever worked for me. Supposedly minocycline works on gram - eye infections.

If the gas bubble was in a better spot you could try lancing the air out using a 30 gauge insulin syringe.


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Old 06/03/2019, 03:13 PM   #3
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For actual eye infections, erythromycin is the only ABX which has ever worked for me. Supposedly minocycline works on gram - eye infections.

If the gas bubble was in a better spot you could try lancing the air out using a 30 gauge insulin syringe.
Do you use the erythromycin gel for direct application?


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Old 06/03/2019, 05:02 PM   #4
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Do you use the erythromycin gel for direct application?
I've done it both ways. Topical application is obviously more involved. Dosing the water usually works, just takes longer (10-14 days).


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Old 06/03/2019, 05:26 PM   #5
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Since there are more fish in the tank topical application might be better. No need to treat everyone. Also, it seems the topical ointment is easier to get.


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Old 06/09/2019, 07:08 PM   #6
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I believe my moorish idol has a gas bubble underneith each eye. It looks just like an air bubble the is at the top of the eye like an eye lid. Is this from an infection? should I treat with erythromycin or just let it run its course? It is eating well but does have some fin damage and an abrasion on its side. Will epson salts help? I see to treat with 1 teaspoon per 5 gallon, do I treat the entire tank and for how long?
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Old 06/10/2019, 08:42 AM   #7
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@jjoos99 Can you provide some clearer photos?


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Old 06/10/2019, 03:19 PM   #8
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Here he is today. If anything the bubble on the other eye has gotten bigger. I bought some erythromycin on the way home so I can treat with that if that is what you suggest.
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Old 06/10/2019, 08:57 PM   #9
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Is it possible that a fish could have gotten the air issue from the flight from California to Ohio? I checked in on the fish several hours later tonight after I took the picture and the bubbles were about half the size. I watched the fish for a bit and it twitched quickly and I saw an air bubble float to the surface from the fish. I think the membrane couldnt expand any more and might have burst open a bit and relieved some of the air.
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The change in air pressure could have caused what is commonly referred to as "Gas Bubble Disease": https://www.advancedaquarist.com/2014/8/fish


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Old 06/12/2019, 01:29 AM   #11
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Well, my Starcki got better without medication.


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Old 06/12/2019, 01:32 AM   #12
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The change in air pressure could have caused what is commonly referred to as "Gas Bubble Disease": https://www.advancedaquarist.com/2014/8/fish
That "Gas Bubble Disease" should however not be confused with the "Gas Bubble Disease" you often encounter with seahorses and pipefish.


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I did see gas bubble disease for horses, seems they have a treatment for them. Today the bubbles seem to have gone behind the eyes, both are bulging out quite a bit. Still only feeding well and keeping water clean. Not sure that antibiotics would help.
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Old 06/12/2019, 06:08 PM   #14
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Have you tried epsom salt?


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No, I was having trouble finding details on it. Found dosage but can it be used in hypo, ok for all the fish in tank? For how long?
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No, I was having trouble finding details on it. Found dosage but can it be used in hypo, ok for all the fish in tank? For how long?
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1 tablespoon per 5 gallons. Repeat again in 48 hours.


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