Reef Central Online Community

Home Forum Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences View New Posts View Today's Posts

Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Search Reefkeeping ...an online magazine for marine aquarists Support our sponsors and mention Reef Central

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > Marine Fish Forums > Fish Disease Treatment
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Old 08/10/2019, 03:49 PM   #1
woodnaquanut
Registered Member
 
woodnaquanut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 2,687
Sick purple tang!

Bought the fish two days ago. It has been in TT tank since then. Today it started swimming head down. It's swimming hard but not able to go down easily. It continues to swim hard. Any ideas what could be causing this? Cure?


__________________
John
DT 120G. mixed reef w/ lots of automation + assorted FW and SW tanks.
woodnaquanut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08/10/2019, 06:26 PM   #2
HumbleFish
Dr. Fish
 
HumbleFish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 4,455
Sounds like a swim bladder issue. Is the fish swimming vertically with its tail up?


HumbleFish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08/11/2019, 08:21 AM   #3
woodnaquanut
Registered Member
 
woodnaquanut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 2,687
Quote:
Originally Posted by HumbleFish View Post
Sounds like a swim bladder issue. Is the fish swimming vertically with its tail up?
I'd say mostly a 60 degree angle. It's trying to swim down but has a hard time doing that.

Yesterday I moved it to a 5 gal. bucket with new water. Seems to be doing better today. Hard to be sure because the view into the bucket is only from the top!

It was in a tank with a Foxface. The tang was pecking at the FF and perhaps the FF fought back.


__________________
John
DT 120G. mixed reef w/ lots of automation + assorted FW and SW tanks.

Last edited by woodnaquanut; 08/11/2019 at 08:29 AM.
woodnaquanut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08/11/2019, 09:54 AM   #4
HumbleFish
Dr. Fish
 
HumbleFish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 4,455
Sounds swim bladder related. I'm assuming you can't see a gas bubble protruding from the swim bladder though?

If the fish is in QT, dose Metronidazole in conjunction with Neomycin. (You can food soak this combination as well.)

You can also try a 30 minute Methylene Blue bath.

But if a gas bubble shows up, your only viable option is to lance the air out using a 30 gauge insulin syringe.


HumbleFish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08/12/2019, 09:17 AM   #5
woodnaquanut
Registered Member
 
woodnaquanut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 2,687
Thanks for the replies.
No gas bubble that I can see.
I'm having trouble finding Metronidazole and Neomycin. Do you have any recommendations on product names that contain Metronidazole or Neomycin?
I have Methylene Blue as part of a product called 'Saftey Stop'. I'll use that today if I can't find the other two.


__________________
John
DT 120G. mixed reef w/ lots of automation + assorted FW and SW tanks.
woodnaquanut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08/12/2019, 09:25 AM   #6
HumbleFish
Dr. Fish
 
HumbleFish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 4,455
Quote:
Originally Posted by woodnaquanut View Post
Do you have any recommendations on product names that contain Metronidazole or Neomycin?
Seachem Metroplex and Neoplex are two aquarium brands.


HumbleFish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08/12/2019, 10:17 AM   #7
woodnaquanut
Registered Member
 
woodnaquanut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 2,687
Thanks!!!


__________________
John
DT 120G. mixed reef w/ lots of automation + assorted FW and SW tanks.
woodnaquanut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08/13/2019, 03:55 PM   #8
woodnaquanut
Registered Member
 
woodnaquanut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 2,687
So it's TT day. I'm looking at the tang and it looks a lot better. The frantic swimming to the bottom is gone, I think. It is no longer in a head down position all the time. It comes eagerly to the surface for food.

A bit more of the tangs history...
The store said their water was 1.025 but was actually 1.035! I was QT'ing with other fish from another store with a SG of 1.019 so I dripped the tang down to 1.023 or so before putting it directly into 1.019 water. Could this cause the swim bladder issues? Environmental issues not bacteria, etc.

Meds come today and I'm not sure I should medicate.
Oh woe is the indecision!!


__________________
John
DT 120G. mixed reef w/ lots of automation + assorted FW and SW tanks.
woodnaquanut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08/14/2019, 01:22 PM   #9
Uncle99
Crab Free Zone
 
Uncle99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,630
Lower salinity usually is no issue, swim bladder is just a possibility.
If he is behaving normally, I would just watch him, In my world, I only medicate when I can diagnose what I am trying to fix.

That being said, I would follow Humblefish in this case, clearly the expert in my mind.


Uncle99 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08/15/2019, 12:28 AM   #10
ThRoewer
Registered Member
 
ThRoewer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Fremont, CA
Posts: 8,494
Did you feed the fish, possibly with dry or flake food?
Some fish feed so greedily that they swallow a decent amount of air which then can lead to excessive buoyancy and the described erratic swimming behavior. This usually goes away quickly (couple of hours to a day) as the food and the gas make their way through the fish's intestines.

Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk


__________________
Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio
3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki

Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...
ThRoewer is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:07 PM.


TapaTalk Enabled

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2019 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright 1999-2014
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.