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09/08/2016, 11:11 PM | #2076 |
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It is the best of both worlds in my opinion. I had 400watt radiums and T5 and Reefbrites and like this much better
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09/08/2016, 11:13 PM | #2077 | |
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They are 360's and the pic doesn't represent how many corals are in there. I lost all my large acro colonies I grew out from frags(some were a foot long tables) to AEFW but thanks for pointing out it looks empty And yes I have par readings. It's not like all the lights are on all the time all at once. I don't even run the Kessils on the white mode blue only
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09/09/2016, 12:38 AM | #2078 |
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so you guys see the new A80 yet?
seems interesting. it's got kessil logic like a160/360 but they are marketing it towards nano tanks? So I'm not sure where that puts it, maybe somewhere between the 160 and 360? from the tank sizes they suggest, it seems it would be for smaller tanks than the a360. |
09/09/2016, 01:58 AM | #2079 |
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It's lesser wattage than the 160, but it has the same wide reflector style as the AP700. So it will do more with less, and is a better value alternative than an A160 over something small and shallow like the very popular Nuvo 10's.
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09/09/2016, 02:06 AM | #2080 |
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i'm wondering how it might do as an accent light to a bigger light, like an a360, to reduce shadows?
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09/09/2016, 07:34 AM | #2081 |
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Well thought, Kessil! This completes a clean line of products.
It looks like my Biocube will get a light fixture upgrade soon!
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I have an A360WE in a 24" cube and am primarily interested in keeping SPS. I just have a few small frags at this point - it has been up and running for about 6 months at this point.
I am concerned about shading in my tank - would 2 or 4 A80 lamps in combination with my A360WE be a reasonable solution? I was considering adding another A360WE to resolve the shading a bit, but it seems that might not be an ideal solution. |
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4 A80s + your A360 will be awesome!
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Yup!
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09/18/2016, 08:24 PM | #2086 |
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75 gallon ?
starting a 75 gallon reef mixed coral very few sps
which light should i go with kessil 2 360we or 1 ap700 has center brace which is my main concern thanks in advance |
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09/18/2016, 09:05 PM | #2088 |
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thanks dave
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09/18/2016, 09:42 PM | #2089 | |
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The center brace wouldn't be any trouble for the AP700. It would not block any light. Aaron
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09/19/2016, 11:32 AM | #2091 | |
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I currently have an ap700 on 75 rimless. Mostly sps with a few zoas and lps mixed in. My thoughts are this. While lps do well off the sides and look very healthy, the growth is definitely slower than lps more in the center 2/3's of the tank. Sps grows no problem for the part. Some pieces do great and some struggle, but I don't attribute that to the light. While I love the light, I definitely need 2 to have a truley great sps dominant tank where I can put sps anywhere in the tank. If I could do it again, I'm not sure if I would have gone ap700 or 2 360s. I didn't even debate 360s at the time to be honest. But if you're concerned about growth on the outer edges of the tank it may be worth it to go with the 360s. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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09/19/2016, 12:02 PM | #2092 |
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I have reefer 525xl, currently have 4 360we. Thinking about switching to 2 ap700 due to spectrum control. Anybody made the change and have input?
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It's a tough call honestly. But maybe 2 360s because I feel it would cover 4 feet better than 1 ap700 while still being able to grow sps. The thing with the ap700 is that it definitely has more punch and better spread which means less shadowing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I guess, never seen it used on 48" lengths so I wouldn't know. For 36" lengths I'm here to say there is not an LED to beat it right now that I know of. Maybe some commercial or specialized fixtures sure. But I'll take the Pepsi challenge with a G4 any day of the week. I don't think it has the spread, PAR, spectrum the 700 has. Aaron
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Absolutely. I can cover a 36" tank no problem. And probably put sps anywhere. Don't get me wrong it definitely covers a 48" tank. But where you can place sps becomes a bit more tricky. Softies and lps will be happy pretty much anywhere (assuming parameters and flow are correct for the species) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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09/28/2016, 08:43 PM | #2097 |
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a little help setting up
I have 2 kessil a360w running on my tank. I run them from 8am to 8pm with 6 different stages of color and intensity. Stage 1, color 10%, intensity 20%, stage 2, 20% color, 40 intensity, stage 3 50/50, stage 4 40/40, stage 5 20/20 and 0/0 in the final stage until morning. I currently have a torch coral in the middle of the tank, and I mean the almost the exact middle of the tank and seams to be doing well. I just got a galaxea that is in the middle but in the sand bed. I also have a carpet anemone that has not moved in the 2 months I've had it and a green star polyp that's on a rock by itself that seems to be starting to grow. Is this enough light? I run each stage for 2 hours. Should I run the color more or less? I think the intensity is enough. Its a standard 55gal tank about about 24" high. The lights are about 5 inches from the water level. I have a ecotech mp10 set to the reef crest mode. The torch seems to like the flow. I have a small power head opposite to the mp10 going constant slightly pointed to the surface. Was thinking of getting a mp40 to replace it with the idea of upgrading in the future. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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What I did learn from reading, and kind of believe from experience... is that Kessil's Light mixing algorithm takes care of each LED Intensity (regardless of the Spectrum you choose). Basically, what I mean is the Spectrum (0%[blue] to 100%[white]) doesn't really matter. It your own choice and have fun with your color choices (to suit the theme changes you want). However the Intensity you choose, has to be done very carefully. Both with Level (0-100%), and How long your run (photoperiod) at higher intensities. From my experience (anything below 40% is safe) for any coral (even placed close to the top). But anything above 40% should be done slowly. This will vary on the type of coral. (one example: I had a heck of a time getting Zoa's to stay alive, but I eventually succeeded by really slowly (weeks) acclimatizing them. Even now, I can't seem to get past 60% with Zoa's, but maybe it just needs more time... [Plus.. I do have 4 Complimentary T5's in the Tank Canopy]). I did document my Kessil setting and playing with coral acclimatizaing here http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...2530342&page=3 (might help you a bit). The complete Canopy Lighting setup is here http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2510779 Good luck figuring your Kessil and corals out. I love the Kessil, especially 0%blue, my sundown (Coral Glow/Pop) setting. Be patient and do things slowly. There is no magic Kessil setting that works for everyone's TANK/Corals. The only magic setting that works, is setting your Intensity to 100% and running it long right away. (Guaranteed to burn most of your corals to death, if they never were exposed to such intensity recently). Last edited by Wally.B; 09/28/2016 at 11:45 PM. |
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I have 2 kessil a360w running on my tank. I run them from 8am to 8pm with 6 different stages of color and intensity. Stage 1, color 10%, intensity 20%, stage 2, 20% color, 40 intensity, stage 3 50/50, stage 4 40/40, stage 5 20/20 and 0/0 in the final stage until morning. I currently have a torch coral in the middle of the tank, and I mean the almost the exact middle of the tank and seams to be doing well. I just got a galaxea that is in the middle but in the sand bed. I also have a carpet anemone that has not moved in the 2 months I've had it and a green star polyp that's on a rock by itself that seems to be starting to grow. Is this enough light? I run each stage for 2 hours. Should I run the color more or less? I think the intensity is enough. Its a standard 55gal tank about about 24" high. The lights are about 5 inches from the water level. I have a ecotech mp10 set to the reef crest mode. The torch seems to like the flow. I have a small power head opposite to the mp10 going constant slightly pointed to the surface. Was thinking of getting a mp40 to replace it with the idea of upgrading in the future. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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10/01/2016, 01:37 AM | #2100 |
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Read through a lot of this thread...
Has there been any conclusion to what really fries the corals during acclimation: is it the color or the intensity. Meaning, which is more "harmful" to shock the corals with. For example, would introducing new lights at 100% intensity with 10% blue be worse then 100% blue at 10% intensity. Thank you. |
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