Fish in trouble-anyone see this before?

Dundermifflin · 08/19/2017, 08:41 AM

Has anyone seen this...seconds before feeding my fish the other night everything was fine in the tank. 10 seconds after feeding them the niger trigger flipped out. He started swimming erratically in spirals, then dropped to the bottom of the tank. Thought he was dead as he was positioned vertically at the bottom against a rock. Then a minute later started spiraling all around the tank again. I turned the lights off immediately to reduce stress. I came back in the morning and didn't see him. When I fed the tank last night I didn't see him. Then this morning (day and a half later from when it started) I saw him spiraling all over the tank again.

All the other fish appear fine. (Porcupine puffer, dogface puffer, blue jaw trigger, and two blue tangs). None seem stressed out or are acting differently. I have had this same group of fish in the tank for over a year with NO prior issues. From what I was able to see on the niger trigger there didn't appear to be any significant wounds or discoloring. The water parameters are good and there is no stray current going through the tank.

The porcupine has grown pretty large and is very aggressive in going after the food when I feed the tank. That's the only time the porcupine is aggressive. When I'm not feeding he's very docile.

The only thing I can think of is maybe the porcupine got him somehow when he was going after food. But again, couldn't really see any marks on the trigger. Even after the feeding when the trigger was spiraling and bumping into the porcupine near his mouth the porcupine did nothing.

Thoughts?

Clowning_Around · 08/19/2017, 12:28 PM

Why the dbl post http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2648479

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Dundermifflin · 08/19/2017, 12:47 PM

With no response thought maybe I was in the wrong forum. No reason to have concern and call that out. Adds no value to these forums. If you have nothing to offer the thread don't comment.

Is it that concerning to you that I posted it in another forum as well in an effort to get a quick response with hopes of trying to save a fish???

Sk8r · 08/19/2017, 03:12 PM

I'm betting your theory may be right. Got tagged.

PROlife · 08/19/2017, 05:40 PM

I'm thinking the Trigger got poisoned by the puffer some how, if memory serves its flesh is poisonous?

Clowning_Around · 08/19/2017, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dundermifflin

With no response thought maybe I was in the wrong forum. No reason to have concern and call that out. Adds no value to these forums. If you have nothing to offer the thread don't comment.

Is it that concerning to you that I posted it in another forum as well in an effort to get a quick response with hopes of trying to save a fish???

Sorry, I noticed differing info and was confused in part. Hope your fish makes it out of the current condition ok. Ive never heard of one snapping anothers spine but I could certainly see how that could happen. If that is the case, I presume it would be fatal... But see what others say, this is just speculation on my part.

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08/19/2017, 08:41 AM	#1
Dundermifflin Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 272	Fish in trouble-anyone see this before? Has anyone seen this...seconds before feeding my fish the other night everything was fine in the tank. 10 seconds after feeding them the niger trigger flipped out. He started swimming erratically in spirals, then dropped to the bottom of the tank. Thought he was dead as he was positioned vertically at the bottom against a rock. Then a minute later started spiraling all around the tank again. I turned the lights off immediately to reduce stress. I came back in the morning and didn't see him. When I fed the tank last night I didn't see him. Then this morning (day and a half later from when it started) I saw him spiraling all over the tank again. All the other fish appear fine. (Porcupine puffer, dogface puffer, blue jaw trigger, and two blue tangs). None seem stressed out or are acting differently. I have had this same group of fish in the tank for over a year with NO prior issues. From what I was able to see on the niger trigger there didn't appear to be any significant wounds or discoloring. The water parameters are good and there is no stray current going through the tank. The porcupine has grown pretty large and is very aggressive in going after the food when I feed the tank. That's the only time the porcupine is aggressive. When I'm not feeding he's very docile. The only thing I can think of is maybe the porcupine got him somehow when he was going after food. But again, couldn't really see any marks on the trigger. Even after the feeding when the trigger was spiraling and bumping into the porcupine near his mouth the porcupine did nothing. Thoughts?

08/19/2017, 12:28 PM	#2
Clowning_Around Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 527	Why the dbl post http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2648479 Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk __________________ Build http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2638892 Parameters: Temp 77-79degF, Specific Gravity 1.023-1.024, PH 8.1-8.4, Alk 8-12, Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 0, Phosphate <.2, Calc 3 Current Tank Info: Custom Oak Stand \| 75G FO Display \| 40G Breeder Sump \| MarinePure Ceramic Media Plate \| Eshopps x-120 skimmer \| Mag9 Return \| Aqua Ultraviolet Advantage 2000+ 15w

08/19/2017, 03:12 PM	#4
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	I'm betting your theory may be right. Got tagged. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

08/19/2017, 12:47 PM	#3
Dundermifflin Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 272	With no response thought maybe I was in the wrong forum. No reason to have concern and call that out. Adds no value to these forums. If you have nothing to offer the thread don't comment. Is it that concerning to you that I posted it in another forum as well in an effort to get a quick response with hopes of trying to save a fish???

08/19/2017, 05:40 PM	#5
PROlife Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 19	I'm thinking the Trigger got poisoned by the puffer some how, if memory serves its flesh is poisonous?