Copper test kit

ozorowsky · 11/20/2017, 09:35 PM

Hello. We thought we had ich, so cleaning up 55 gallon with 20 gallon sump to make into quarantine tank. Using cupermine for copper and have the Sea chem copper test kit but not comfortable with results and process. Heard mixed reviews on the API copper test.

Anyone ever used regular drinking water copper test or aquapond/aquascape copper test kits?

Thanks in advance for suggestions/answers.

hkgar · 11/22/2017, 03:47 PM

Consider doing TTM for Ick. Much less stressful for the fish.

bertoni · 11/22/2017, 05:22 PM

The SeaChem kit should be fine for Cupramine. What problems are you having? I'd stick with it if possible. I'm not sure how other kits will do with chelated copper. Has the kit failed?

ozorowsky · 11/22/2017, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bertoni

The SeaChem kit should be fine for Cupramine. What problems are you having? I'd stick with it if possible. I'm not sure how other kits will do with chelated copper. Has the kit failed?

The seachem kit is weird. Little tray and you have to mix around. Ive been putting drops in andrew have yet to see it turn blue but the test solution works. Was just wondering if there's abetter test kit

bertoni · 11/22/2017, 06:22 PM

I don't know of anything that's got a better reputation, but I've never dosed copper, so I don't have any personal experience.

josephxsxn · 11/25/2017, 07:05 AM

HANA makes an ULR Copper Check that operates in the PPB... If your trying to keep your target steady you will need something with more resolution then the salifert test. Most fish (non-wrasse) will be fine above .2 ppm complexed (ionic) copper, I'd never go above 0.5, and 0.8 in my mind is lethal. With the Saifert test from 0.5 to 1.0 I'd be a bit worried about swings. I also don't like eye reading the test making HANA that much nicer.

zachfishman · 11/25/2017, 08:34 AM

If you're using Cupramine, the only kit that will properly test for it is the Seachem kit (so I have been told). Since the dose is 0.5ppm for saltwater, having the reference solution to learn from makes it less difficult to judge a proper reading.

zachfishman · 11/25/2017, 08:36 AM

Has anyone tried the Hanna checkers for Cupramine? I'd love to get an easy, objective test for something so important.

bertoni · 11/25/2017, 11:11 AM

I am not sure that the Hanna will handle the chelated copper. I'd stick with the SeaChem or do some research into chelated copper chemistry.

11/20/2017, 09:35 PM	#1
ozorowsky Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 311	Copper test kit Hello. We thought we had ich, so cleaning up 55 gallon with 20 gallon sump to make into quarantine tank. Using cupermine for copper and have the Sea chem copper test kit but not comfortable with results and process. Heard mixed reviews on the API copper test. Anyone ever used regular drinking water copper test or aquapond/aquascape copper test kits? Thanks in advance for suggestions/answers.

11/22/2017, 03:47 PM	#2
hkgar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dewitt MI Posts: 5,051	Consider doing TTM for Ick. Much less stressful for the fish. __________________ Gary 180 gallon, 40 gallon sump, 3 250 W MH + 4 80W ATI T5's, MTC MVX 36 Skimmer, Apex controller Aquamaxx T-3 CaRx Current Tank Info: A 2 Barred Rabbitfish, Red Head Salon, Yellow/Purple, McMaster Fairy, Possum, 2 Leopard Wrasses, Kole, & Atlantic Blue Tangs, 2 Percula Clown, 3 PJ and 1 Banggai Cardinalfish , Swallowtail, Bellus and Coral Beauty Angels

11/22/2017, 05:22 PM	#3
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	The SeaChem kit should be fine for Cupramine. What problems are you having? I'd stick with it if possible. I'm not sure how other kits will do with chelated copper. Has the kit failed? __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

11/22/2017, 06:22 PM	#5
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	I don't know of anything that's got a better reputation, but I've never dosed copper, so I don't have any personal experience. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

11/25/2017, 08:34 AM	#7
zachfishman Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St Petersburg, FL Posts: 3,577	If you're using Cupramine, the only kit that will properly test for it is the Seachem kit (so I have been told). Since the dose is 0.5ppm for saltwater, having the reference solution to learn from makes it less difficult to judge a proper reading. __________________ Patience is a reefer's best tool. Secret Xenia lover. M.S. Marine Biology Staff - Marine Discovery Center, St. Petersburg FL Tampa Bay Reef Club BOD 2018 Current Tank Info: 34g modded Solana

11/25/2017, 07:05 AM	#6
josephxsxn Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: DTW, Michigan Posts: 122	HANA makes an ULR Copper Check that operates in the PPB... If your trying to keep your target steady you will need something with more resolution then the salifert test. Most fish (non-wrasse) will be fine above .2 ppm complexed (ionic) copper, I'd never go above 0.5, and 0.8 in my mind is lethal. With the Saifert test from 0.5 to 1.0 I'd be a bit worried about swings. I also don't like eye reading the test making HANA that much nicer.

11/25/2017, 08:36 AM	#8
zachfishman Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St Petersburg, FL Posts: 3,577	Has anyone tried the Hanna checkers for Cupramine? I'd love to get an easy, objective test for something so important. __________________ Patience is a reefer's best tool. Secret Xenia lover. M.S. Marine Biology Staff - Marine Discovery Center, St. Petersburg FL Tampa Bay Reef Club BOD 2018 Current Tank Info: 34g modded Solana

11/25/2017, 11:11 AM	#9
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	I am not sure that the Hanna will handle the chelated copper. I'd stick with the SeaChem or do some research into chelated copper chemistry. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni