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Old 10/12/2017, 12:00 PM   #1
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Emporer angel sick?

My Emporer angel seems to be fading more lately. It's acting a little strange and keeps hanging out really close to my starry blenny. Is he sick or just in the process of changing colors?

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Old 10/12/2017, 01:50 PM   #2
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That looks like velvet to me is he breathing heavy scratching flashing swimming into the current of a power head or return pump? Also how long have you had him and did he go through qt? Finally any new additions to your tank ?


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Old 10/12/2017, 02:43 PM   #3
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That looks like velvet to me is he breathing heavy scratching flashing swimming into the current of a power head or return pump? Also how long have you had him and did he go through qt? Finally any new additions to your tank ?
I have had him a little over a month but I bought someone that had him for four months. I am not sure about qt. He doesn't seem to be breathing heavy or swimming into the power heads. I added a red starfish a weak ago

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Old 10/12/2017, 02:45 PM   #4
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Looks sick, you are going to have to treat him if you want him to get better.

Good luck, my 2 cents.


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Old 10/12/2017, 02:49 PM   #5
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Looks sick, you are going to have to treat him if you want him to get better.

Good luck, my 2 cents.
I am a little new to this, what is the best to treat hi with and do I need to quarantine him to do so?

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Old 10/12/2017, 03:30 PM   #6
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I'm not an angel expert by no means I think he's is changing color after looking at the adult color pattern the adult gets a whitish mouth you should see a new pattern start to develop also I did read they start to change around 4-5" don't k ow why size is the factor I would suspect age but 4"-5" might be the nominal size of them when they reach the proper age. Hope I didn't freak ya out with velvet bu that is what it looks like.
No other signs of disease so I would watch her and in the mean time look up some pics of angels changing to compare him to. I can see the adult pattern coming in on your fish the lines are changing from kinda vertical to more horizontal


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Old 10/12/2017, 03:39 PM   #7
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Changing color patterns would not cause the fading, something is causing this externally.

Would be best to treat in separate tank, could be flukes, could be ich, etc....


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Old 10/12/2017, 04:20 PM   #8
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Thank you everyone for your thoughts. I am going to try some treatment and see what happens.

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Old 10/12/2017, 04:25 PM   #9
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In my experience, an angel fading means bad water quality. They intoxicate of nitrates as well.


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Old 10/12/2017, 05:08 PM   #10
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Changing color patterns would not cause the fading, something is causing this externally.

Would be best to treat in separate tank, could be flukes, could be ich, etc....
Here's acouple pics of sub adults changing and you can see clear fading I wouldn't worry about it there are no other signs of illness be patient and just onserve


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Old 10/12/2017, 05:35 PM   #12
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In my experience, an angel fading means bad water quality. They intoxicate of nitrates as well.
Thank you! I checked my nitrates and they were a little high

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Old 10/12/2017, 05:38 PM   #13
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Thank you! I checked my nitrates and they were a little high

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Old 10/12/2017, 07:44 PM   #14
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Angels are notorious for flukes. If you are unsure of his past, it’s worth a thought to treat with prazipro. It is reef safe, will kill some worms and feather dusters but otherwise safe. I don’t think they would be causing the fading though.

If he is eating fine, like others have mentioned, keep up on your water quality and observe. My favorite fish but am too afraid to chance one with my sticks.


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Old 10/13/2017, 07:44 PM   #15
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Here's acouple pics of sub adults changing and you can see clear fading I wouldn't worry about it there are no other signs of illness be patient and just onserve
Have you ever owned an emperor?

Look at the tail and his fins, looks like tiny white dots. Plus the skin does not look healthy. Compare his pic to the ones you posted, clearly there is a difference.


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Old 10/13/2017, 07:47 PM   #16
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Have you ever owned an emperor?
No but I can tell you if there is no other signs of parasites like heavy breathing scratching flashing swimming into current lethargic fin deterioration not eating ect I would not jump to medication. The only thing that worries me about his pics is the similarities to velvet and the spots on the fins



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Old 10/13/2017, 08:17 PM   #17
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No but I can tell you if there is no other signs of parasites like heavy breathing scratching flashing swimming into current lethargic fin deterioration not eating ect I would not jump to medication. The only thing that worries me about his pics is the similarities to velvet and the spots on the fins
Then you cannot speak from experience, I've been keeping large angels for many years and something is wrong with his.

Velvet and spots on fin require treatment.


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Then you cannot speak from experience, I've been keeping large angels for many years and something is wrong with his.

Velvet and spots on fin require treatment.
Ok then advise him how should be proceed?


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How is the emperor doing any changes


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How is the emperor doing any changes
No, same

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No, same

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Ok then advise him how should be proceed?
I already did......


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Old 10/15/2017, 03:50 PM   #23
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How is your angel doing I have an Emperor which I believe is changing he has faded at the top but you can see yellow coming through and a little in the middle of his body


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Here is pic the yellow doesn't seem as much on the picture



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