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Unread 12/02/2014, 09:59 PM   #151
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Great thread! I am an experienced fresh and marine hobbyist and a few days ago I acquired a fairly famous coral cat shark that is at least a year and a half old and he now calls my 265 home. I rearranged the base/live rock so he has a pass through behind it in addition to the open front. The famous part is he is from the Pittsburgh Pirate "shark tank". Was just reading up on everyone opinions and there seems to be a wealth of knowledge here. Good work guys and thank you.


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Unread 12/16/2014, 09:06 PM   #152
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What are fish that shouldn't be kept with sharks outside of the ones that may become a snack? I thought I had read somewhere that some fish may pick at the eyes of sharks? Is this true and if so which fish?


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Unread 12/16/2014, 10:14 PM   #153
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Angels, puffers, triggers, filefish all have a bad reputation. Not just for eyes, but also skin. Every individual fish is different though and there is no rule, just recommendations.


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Unread 12/17/2014, 07:31 AM   #154
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Yeah, generally in small (home size) aquariums, and grazer will go for eyes / fins of benthic sharks. That being said, with enough volume and the right set up, you can get some very interesting species combinations.


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Unread 12/18/2014, 09:43 AM   #155
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The 625 I have is 84x72x24"


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Unread 12/20/2014, 07:58 AM   #156
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I'm asked frequently about how to sex sharks. Even when contacting online fish places, that we all know, I've been told they can sex juveniles or can't sex them at all. This is simply untrue. Male sharks have external reproductive organs called claspers. The are present at birth and are easily identifiable. Below is a great example. As they mature they elongate, as pups they are small, but always present in males.


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Unread 12/29/2014, 08:18 PM   #157
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Hi I've been on this forum for a while now just don't post much I was hoping maybe someone could help me out I've had many different sharks and rays before with no issues in the past my tank is 108 x 36 x 24 with an external overflow I have two marbled cat sharks with about 20 diff tangs and I just got a blue dot ray any body have any experience with getting them to eat I've had him for a week now and haven't seen him eat yet I've seen him go through the sand but he dosnt go after any food wen I feed the tank I've tried krill and silversides so far . And I was also wondering if anybody makes there own frozen food from seafood you find at the super market.


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Unread 12/29/2014, 09:02 PM   #158
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Hi I've been on this forum for a while now just don't post much I was hoping maybe someone could help me out I've had many different sharks and rays before with no issues in the past my tank is 108 x 36 x 24 with an external overflow I have two marbled cat sharks with about 20 diff tangs and I just got a blue dot ray any body have any experience with getting them to eat I've had him for a week now and haven't seen him eat yet I've seen him go through the sand but he dosnt go after any food wen I feed the tank I've tried krill and silversides so far . And I was also wondering if anybody makes there own frozen food from seafood you find at the super market.
Blue spot rays are notoriously difficult to get eating and should be avoided. I make my own food for my fish but not for sharks if that's what your asking. You can get a number of things from the seafood department in your local grocery that you could feed you sharks.


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Unread 12/29/2014, 09:25 PM   #159
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Anytime I have seen one on DD it's eating live glass shrimp. I would find some place to source some from


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Unread 12/29/2014, 09:26 PM   #160
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I would start tube feeds. It probably hasn't eaten since capture.


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Unread 12/29/2014, 09:39 PM   #161
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Thank you for the responses but I never had to tube feed a ray how do I go about doing that.


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Unread 12/29/2014, 09:44 PM   #162
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When buying at a super market anything I should stay away from can parasites be a problem I'd like to buy some shrimp squid some type of fish cut it up and freeze it


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Unread 12/30/2014, 09:10 AM   #163
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How big is the ray? Search force feeding a shark, you can see a video alprazo made back in 2012 on how to do it.


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Unread 12/30/2014, 08:02 PM   #164
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Thank you He's about 6" across tried squid today that didn't work either the the rest of the tank loved it so I guess tube feeding it is any tips on how to keep his barb away


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I still have her today - and is about 24 inches long.


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Unread 01/01/2015, 03:06 PM   #166
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Just flip the ray on its back, the barb will not be an issue. You could also remove it. It is quite easy.

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Unread 01/01/2015, 07:52 PM   #167
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Thank you going go try tomorrow


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Unread 01/02/2015, 01:36 PM   #168
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Hey, I know that guy!


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Unread 01/02/2015, 02:47 PM   #169
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Unread 01/05/2015, 10:24 AM   #170
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Fiberglass tanks are more affordable


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Unread 01/08/2015, 11:26 AM   #171
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Ok you got me. But I did meet him one time.


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Unread 01/13/2015, 09:45 PM   #172
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Sorry for stolen this thread!
I think all shark lover would like to see any informations related with shark.
Therefore I post it here.
I promised that I would not do it next time!
Just for sharing!
My friend's shark tank(Hong Kong)
(8.5 feet wide, 18 feet long, 5 feet depth)
Two black tip reef shark (Carcharhinus melanopterus)
One white tip reef shark (Triaenodon obesus)
Some Chiloscyllium griseum (Not shown on video because too small)
(Just sharing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm_iPWz1IwY





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Unread 01/13/2015, 10:08 PM   #173
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WOw that is quite the tank!!


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Unread 01/13/2015, 10:31 PM   #174
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It a nice huge tank but imo those black tips are too big for it. I don't have a ton of experience with ORVs so Maybe zoodiver will chime in, but the multiple half flips of the tails and the jerky movements in the swim pattern tell me that they a utilizing extra of energy navigating the width of the tank.


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Unread 01/14/2015, 09:31 AM   #175
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It a nice huge tank but imo those black tips are too big for it. I don't have a ton of experience with ORVs so Maybe zoodiver will chime in, but the multiple half flips of the tails and the jerky movements in the swim pattern tell me that they a utilizing extra of energy navigating the width of the tank.
There is a store 1 hr from me that's has 3 black tips in a 17,000g tank. I would guess its 20-25 ft long by 8-10ft wide and 7-8ft tall and the tank looked small for them. The tank was much bigger than one of the intex pools you often see used for sharks


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