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Unread 07/19/2017, 12:09 AM   #51
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PIA has tank raised Latz babies for $175 each.


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Unread 07/19/2017, 05:17 AM   #52
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Any update of these clowns and comment on the fish over all?


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Unread 07/19/2017, 09:03 AM   #53
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Any update of these clowns and comment on the fish over all?
Mine is doing great. Loves the gigs but seems to sleep in the mag. I also have a misbar that I found locally in an old seahorse tank both seem to be easy to keep. Planning to grab one from Among the Reef to go with my remaining one from live aquaria when I get back from vacation.


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Unread 07/20/2017, 12:14 AM   #54
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They are doing good, but they do not look like wild caught latz. This is a picture of the wc Juvis I got from dd in 2010 and the cb ones this year

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Unread 07/20/2017, 12:36 AM   #55
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What do you mean with that they don't look like wild?
I had wild adults and juveniles before and these look pretty much the same as wild juveniles.
The widening of the bars and the blue lips develop as they grow up.

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Unread 07/20/2017, 07:17 AM   #56
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Curious what you mean as well. They look pretty identical in the pics you posted to me. What am I missing in the pics? I see that the color is a bit lighter but I'm assuming these cb ones are just younger.


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Unread 07/20/2017, 11:59 AM   #57
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Something about the shape of the face just seems off to me, that and the color, but that could be because they are younger. I'll keep this post updated with how they develop.


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Unread 07/20/2017, 12:24 PM   #58
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The yellow color on pectoral fins is much more pronounced on wild caught juvi Latz. Their heads and gills are more proportional, etc etc. I know what knot-hard means.
I think Ocellaris clowns are a good example of how tank raised ones differ from wild caught ones. It's obvious in their shape and color. Same species that look different.


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Unread 07/22/2017, 08:05 PM   #59
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So are these from Karen or some other US breeder?

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Unread 08/03/2017, 06:28 PM   #60
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Bump. Any updates or anyone else bought some recently?


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Unread 08/10/2017, 05:27 PM   #61
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Here is one for sale on BZA's site. It's WYSIWYG
https://www.bluezooaquatics.com/prod...=365&pid=26986


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Unread 08/11/2017, 02:10 AM   #62
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My lfs in Bangkok had some in last weeks
They went in seconds!
I can pm the Facebook site it has some nice pics!


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Unread 08/16/2017, 05:21 AM   #63
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Nyaquatics had some wild ones a couple weeks ago. They were $800 for the pair. I'm thinking of trying a pair of these captive ones next time a well formed pair pops up. Just debating whether I want to get rid of my current Percs. I'm assuming a pair of latz with a pair of Percs is a definite no go in a 90 with 2 Magnifica and 3 gigantea?
They should be fine together. Might be a good idea to take the percs out for a week and then add the two pairs at the same time.


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Unread 09/07/2017, 02:12 AM   #64
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They should be fine together. Might be a good idea to take the percs out for a week and then add the two pairs at the same time.
Latezonatus can be quite mean - and they get large.
To make them work with a pair of percula you would need to have a barrier between them and an appropriately mean fish guarding it so that none of the pairs dares to take a peek at the other side.

BTW, DD has two baby pairs right now.

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I had a pair of them in the late 90s. Back then they were much more affordable. If I remember correctly it was just $250 for an adult pair.
Last time I bought a pair, in 2005, my LFS charged me $80 each.

Price-gouging at its best. They aren't rare. They aren't even uncommon in their native range. However because they come from Australian collectors, and Australian collectors have strict unit restrictions, they would rather catch specimen angels that they can wholesale for $200 each than a clown that they wholesale for $20. So someone asked the question - what if we asked the same amount for a common clown as for a rare adult angel - do you think people would actually PAY that much? Apparently they will and do...

For the record, this is what a healthy adult pair looks like. Not those misshapen misfits...

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Unread 09/18/2017, 03:03 PM   #66
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I have a pair of Karen's captive bred latezonatus on the way from Among the Reef. For the time being they will have to share a 20 gallon tank with my yellow Assessors and janssi pipefish.

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Unread 09/18/2017, 05:50 PM   #67
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DD had two new pairs today. It's Latzopalooza!


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Unread 09/18/2017, 07:03 PM   #68
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I have a pair of Karen's captive bred latezonatus on the way from Among the Reef. For the time being they will have to share a 20 gallon tank with my yellow Assessors and janssi pipefish.

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Nice. I got some from there too. Karen must be pumping them out now.


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Unread 09/18/2017, 08:55 PM   #69
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Nice. I got some from there too. Karen must be pumping them out now.
So you got the other two or did you get them earlier?
Do you think the ones at DD are from Karen as well? Some of them certainly look the part and none of the recent has any misbaring.


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So you got the other two or did you get them earlier?
Do you think the ones at DD are from Karen as well? Some of them certainly look the part and none of the recent has any misbaring.
I got them a few weeks ago. I assume the ones from DD are Karen's too but I don't know for sure. PacificIsleAquatics also had some of Karen's recently


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Unread 09/19/2017, 12:35 PM   #71
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Seems she is producing them now in good quantities.

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Unread 09/19/2017, 01:26 PM   #72
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Seems she is producing them now in good quantities.

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I imagine soon the price will dump to a level that makes it not worth raising them. Then the price may rebound some.


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Unread 09/20/2017, 02:57 PM   #73
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Jordan sells them for $300 a pair, which I think is fair. The $400 (399) DD sells them for likely reflects their larger overhead.
Anyone who ever bred clownfish (wild forms) can tell you that what you usually get for them from a LFS (let's not even talk wholesalers) is a joke when comparing the work it takes. If you then consider also that the life-expectancy of a clownfish can be anywhere between 20 and 30 years (counted from hatch), than most clownfish are terribly undervalued.


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Unread 09/21/2017, 05:32 PM   #74
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More pics anyone?


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Does anyone have any updates regarding growth and coloration of CB Latz?


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