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Unread 09/08/2008, 05:59 PM   #251
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Ok this thread is killing me...hobogato.your tank is nuts..You about have me cutting a hole in my in my apt. I live on the top floor maybe they wont know..lol


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Unread 09/09/2008, 05:45 AM   #252
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thanks, its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission - besides, you are improving the condition of the apartment by bringing in natural sunlight!

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Ok this thread is killing me...hobogato.your tank is nuts..You about have me cutting a hole in my in my apt. I live on the top floor maybe they wont know..lol



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Unread 09/09/2008, 08:29 AM   #253
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bad advise. that is great if it's your spouse and that new coral you just bought without discussing it.

as much as it is an improvement it is still not your building and some owners are weird.

i would clear it with the owner first. if i was the owner and you were to pay for it i would say "go for it". but then some of you have seen what i did.

probably grounds for eviction.

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Unread 09/09/2008, 09:03 AM   #254
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forgot that it is hard to tell when someone is joking on the internet

thought the laughing face was enough, but just to clarify....

i was joking.

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bad advise. that is great if it's your spouse and that new coral you just bought without discussing it.

as much as it is an improvement it is still not your building and some owners are weird.

i would clear it with the owner first. if i was the owner and you were to pay for it i would say "go for it". but then some of you have seen what i did.

probably grounds for eviction.

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Unread 09/09/2008, 09:59 AM   #255
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Wow that is awesome I think that is the best way anyone could light a tank. I have been sitting hear thinking how would i could do this at my house and at the moment unless i have the tubes running up the side of my house i unfortunately do not think it is possible.

I have great sun down in Orlando FL but i live in a tri level house so my current small tank is on the small ground floor and our bedroom is above it and the wife probably wouldn't agree to tubes running up the middle of the bedroom. I do not think the raised floors will support the tank without sufficient support at least when I upgrade tanks.

Has anyone considered going up an outside wall?

Another question would be I see in all the pics the dome sits right on top of the roof, could you extend the tube further past the roof line to be even with the peak of your house so that you get more sun?

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Unread 09/09/2008, 10:17 AM   #256
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I know it was all a joke..my post was a joke .other than he has a sweet tank


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Unread 09/09/2008, 10:39 AM   #257
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ok, sorry.


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Unread 09/09/2008, 10:41 AM   #258
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I'm with Lowed on there... Up the outside possible?

What is the max distance that this stays reasonably useful.


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Unread 09/09/2008, 11:54 AM   #259
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I'm sure you can do up and outside, however considering each riser costs on the order of 50' it'd get expensive, not to mention the longer it travels the less light you'll get. If you're losing 1% reflectivity "per bounce" (just guessing at 99% efficient at reflecting) then it'll add up.

However if your tank is on the south part of the house you can simply poke through the wall, and make a faux mini- roof to have the proper pitch.


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Unread 09/09/2008, 12:35 PM   #260
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This is just plain awesome! My wife and I own a condo unit downtown now so we can't do this on my current tank. However, in the future (probably 5-6 yrs) when we move and buy a building of our own, this will definitely be on the agenda! The best thing about it is that you are doing something good for the environment, saving yourself money, and giving the corals the most natural set up possible. Its a winning solution.
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Unread 09/10/2008, 09:24 AM   #261
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Any thoughts as to why the shimmering effect has been lost?!? Typically MH replicate the shimmering effect of natural light, so I am wondering why it has now been lost?

Is it because the sunlight is going thgrough glass/plastic lens? Any thoughts as to how to recover the effect?

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Unread 09/10/2008, 09:25 AM   #262
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It is because the light is no longer a point-source, but rather more diffused over the entire tube opening.


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Unread 09/10/2008, 09:41 AM   #263
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it hasnt. it is actually much more apparent during the brightest part of the day. it is so bright on the white sand that it hurts my eyes if i look at it too long

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Unread 09/10/2008, 11:01 AM   #264
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It is because the light is no longer a point-source, but rather more diffused over the entire tube opening.
????

The sunlight is being focused through lens now, how is it more diffused? It's like a magnifying glass.


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Unread 09/10/2008, 11:05 AM   #265
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the shimmer effect is diminished to non existent, but quite a bit of light still gets to the tank.
sorry, I'm a little confused now, so the shimmer effect is greater now than it was before, is that correct?


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Unread 09/10/2008, 11:19 AM   #266
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yes, the shimmer effect is in the tank from about 10am to 6pm as it always was with halides, but the shimmers are much brighter than they were with halides from about 12 to 3pm. i think it is just because the light coming in is brighter than the halides were. the sun is still a point source for light - just like a halide bulb.


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Unread 09/10/2008, 01:51 PM   #267
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I seem to recall the shimmer being more of a rainbow of colors, due to the wider variety of colors in the spectrum, it was truly a most awesome sight and made the shimmer from MH look so pale by comparison it wasn't funny... . seeing reds and yellows dancing around was just so stunning.

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The sunlight is being focused through lens now, how is it more diffused? It's like a magnifying glass.
It's more diffused. The sun is much more of a point source than the tubes. Here's an experiment you can try, hold up your pinky finger at arm's length you can block the entire sun (minus the glow) now you got 14" in diameter at a distance of a couple feet... way larger angular size.


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Unread 09/10/2008, 02:09 PM   #268
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i am not at home right now, but i think you are right - there is more color in the shimmer. it is about like looking at a swimming pool.

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I seem to recall the shimmer being more of a rainbow of colors, due to the wider variety of colors in the spectrum, it was truly a most awesome sight and made the shimmer from MH look so pale by comparison it wasn't funny... . seeing reds and yellows dancing around was just so stunning.



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Unread 09/10/2008, 03:06 PM   #269
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well, looks like hurricane ike may give my work on the roof a pretty good test this weekend.....


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Unread 09/10/2008, 03:19 PM   #270
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I would shield them with my body.


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Unread 09/10/2008, 03:34 PM   #271
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REALLY COOL !!!!!!!!!!!! I AM IN PHX, AZ THINK IT WOULD WORK HERE.


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Unread 09/10/2008, 05:05 PM   #272
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AZ is probably the perfect place for it, IMO.


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Unread 09/10/2008, 08:29 PM   #273
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Great Job. I have always wanted Solar and one of these days when we build a house most of it will be Solar. I can't wait to see the growth and color after a year or so.


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Unread 09/11/2008, 11:02 AM   #274
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yep, this has me thinking of all kinds of ways to go green when i am ready to have our next house built (even tho that is 12 years or so down the road). of course, who knows where technology will be at that time

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Great Job. I have always wanted Solar and one of these days when we build a house most of it will be Solar. I can't wait to see the growth and color after a year or so.



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Unread 09/11/2008, 11:33 AM   #275
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yep, this has me thinking of all kinds of ways to go green when i am ready to have our next house built (even tho that is 12 years or so down the road). of course, who knows where technology will be at that time
I am an Architect and I'm getting ready to start design/building my own home... I was planning on going to LEED certification... maybe this will help me earn some extra points... heheheee


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