My own AEFW (Acro Eating Flatworms) images - Page 31

melev · 09/23/2007, 10:38 AM

I would chip off the tissue off the live rock, and either treat it in Fluke, or toss it out if you think it is infested.

Betadine is simply too harsh. I have a huge bottle of the stuff, which cost me about $13. I think I still have $12.90 left.

johnvu713 · 09/23/2007, 03:45 PM

what do you think about potassium permaganate?

melev · 09/23/2007, 05:23 PM

I read the article, but as Eric pointed out, it is too soon to know for sure how that will work out. Keep in mind that was being recommended for monti-eating nudibranchs, not AEFWs.

johnvu713 · 09/23/2007, 06:49 PM

i use potassium permaganate to dip my frags for less than 5 minutes, saw redbugs killed. 1 frag is recovered, the other three are doing alright. still dont know the exact dosage to treat.

johnvu713 · 09/23/2007, 06:53 PM

anyway, i am new to the hobby; i am planning to set a 10 sps gallon quarantine tank. does anybody recommend what light in watt should i use? thanks

Me No Nemo · 09/24/2007, 09:29 AM

I am still working with the Revive and am having excellent results! That stuff just takes out the AEFWs almost instantly. We have a great microscope and we can watch them curl up and fall off then basically just dissolve. The acros seem to be doing well afterwards. Definitely worth a try if you're battling these guys.

SERVO · 09/24/2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Me No Nemo
I am still working with the Revive and am having excellent results! That stuff just takes out the AEFWs almost instantly. We have a great microscope and we can watch them curl up and fall off then basically just dissolve. The acros seem to be doing well afterwards. Definitely worth a try if you're battling these guys.

Please elaborate on this product. Could you post pictures?

melev · 09/24/2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by SERVO
Please elaborate on this product. Could you post pictures?

Here you go Ryan. One page back:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...3#post10439443

Sparkss · 09/24/2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by Me No Nemo
Well, I've done some more research since Cstires brought his piece in. I was able to get an acro with flatworms on it and placed it in a new product Julian Sprung is releasing called "Revive Coral Cleaner" that Julian was kind enough to forward me a sample of. Using the recommended dosage, the flatworms absolutely writhed off the piece and were dead in no time. I think this stuff has enormous potential! I've also used it, as he suggested, on some blastos that came in looking pretty "wilted" and after placing them back in the tank they looked amazing.

Here's some info from his website regarding the product:

ReVive Coral Cleanerâ„¢

Two Little Fishies ReVive Coral Cleanerâ„¢ is a new product developed by Julian Sprung for cleansing live stony corals. It is a surface cleaning formula based on plant extracts. Use for all general purpose live coral cleansing, as a part of acclimation to aquariums when corals are first received, for rinsing prior to shipping, and for rinsing newly fragmented corals, such as at coral farming facilities. 500 ml (16.8 fl oz) bottle.

Here's a link to more info:

http://www.twolittlefishies.com/docu...1162048240.pdf

Sparkss · 09/24/2007, 05:59 PM

hehehe.. posting at almost the same time Mark

mpoletti · 09/24/2007, 06:40 PM

I used this product this weekend. I left a frag in the dip too long to see what would happen; needless to say, the coral was stressed and the next day the coral was peeling. I still like the way it smells though.

melev · 10/23/2007, 09:19 PM

I just opened up my bottle and it smells exactly like Pine Sol, and looks like it when you pour it in water.

Hmm.

kau_cinta_ku · 10/23/2007, 09:25 PM

well i guess when your done killing the AEFW's you could always mop the kitchen floor afterwards and make the wife happy

Me No Nemo · 10/23/2007, 10:23 PM

Sorry, double post!

Me No Nemo · 10/23/2007, 10:23 PM

Yes, that would be nice! I've used it several times now and it does away with the flatworms very well. Seriously, they just melt away. It can be a bit tough on the corals so do not make the dip too strong or leave the corals in too long.

Me No Nemo · 10/23/2007, 10:26 PM

...and yeah, I thought the same thing, about smelling like Pine Sol. But, it always makes our lab small great when we're done!

makoJ · 10/24/2007, 12:53 AM

does it kill the eggs?

liquidfunk · 10/24/2007, 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by makoJ
does it kill the eggs?

nope

simon.007 · 02/05/2008, 09:31 AM

Any news about ReVive Coral Cleanerâ„¢?

Simon

melev · 02/05/2008, 12:55 PM

I'm using it as a dip prior to adding any corals to my tank, but I've not had any corals covered with AEFW to test it specifically.

I did want to note that Naka recently discovered AEFW in his beautiful tank, but his method of erradicating them is to turkey baste the coral frequently (virtually daily) to send the flatworms flying so his fish can gobble them up. You can read more about that in his thread.

Stoney Mahony · 02/05/2008, 01:34 PM

Still aefw free.

Dudester · 02/05/2008, 04:23 PM

Good to hear, Stoney. Are you using Fluke Tabs as a dip for new acquisitions?

Stoney Mahony · 02/13/2008, 11:10 AM

Yeppers.

SERVO · 02/13/2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by Stoney Mahony
Still aefw free.

So am I. (Too my knowledge!) After hearing Sanjay talk about blasting them with a turkey baster, I did that to see if anything flew off. I didn't see anything and it did nothing to draw fish attention.

I followed Stonies recommendations specifically and then I dipped with TMPCC twice to be safe. I treated every coral a total of 6 times without significant detrimental effects to the corals.

redspot321 · 02/14/2008, 03:49 PM

Mark, would you say that Fluke tabs are a good place to start with ridding these worms? Vs the betadine or Lugols solution?

09/24/2007, 09:29 AM	#756
Me No Nemo Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,337	I am still working with the Revive and am having excellent results! That stuff just takes out the AEFWs almost instantly. We have a great microscope and we can watch them curl up and fall off then basically just dissolve. The acros seem to be doing well afterwards. Definitely worth a try if you're battling these guys. __________________ “Life is life's greatest gift. Guard the life of another creature as you would your own because it is your own. On life's scale of values, the smallest is no less precious to the creature who owns it than the largest...” ( Dr. Lloyd Biggle Jr.) "In among the branches of the corals, like birds among trees, floated many beautiful fish, radiant with metallic greens or crimsons...." J. Beete Jukes 1842-46 Current Tank Info: 215 Oceanic, Dart Pump, Vortech MP 40's, ATI Powermodule 10x80 watts, 46 gallon freshwater planted tank, 3,500+ gallon backyard pond, 12 gallon mantis tank

09/24/2007, 05:59 PM	#760
Sparkss Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oakley (94561) Posts: 5,030	hehehe.. posting at almost the same time Mark __________________ - Tom Current Tank Info: 380 starfire inwall ,two 150g sump/fuge. Volcano Ca RX, ato, 6' Volcano skimmer. LAIIIs w/400w AquaConnect 14K on IC EBallasts

09/24/2007, 06:40 PM	#761
mpoletti You'll never walk alone Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 18,245	I used this product this weekend. I left a frag in the dip too long to see what would happen; needless to say, the coral was stressed and the next day the coral was peeling. I still like the way it smells though. __________________ -Mark a.) I believe... The curse is a reality b.) Fish poop is your friend c.) Why chase numbers? #CoralsLiketoDisco #ReefSerenity

10/23/2007, 10:23 PM	#764
Me No Nemo Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,337	Sorry, double post! __________________ “Life is life's greatest gift. Guard the life of another creature as you would your own because it is your own. On life's scale of values, the smallest is no less precious to the creature who owns it than the largest...” ( Dr. Lloyd Biggle Jr.) "In among the branches of the corals, like birds among trees, floated many beautiful fish, radiant with metallic greens or crimsons...." J. Beete Jukes 1842-46 Current Tank Info: 215 Oceanic, Dart Pump, Vortech MP 40's, ATI Powermodule 10x80 watts, 46 gallon freshwater planted tank, 3,500+ gallon backyard pond, 12 gallon mantis tank

10/23/2007, 10:23 PM	#765
Me No Nemo Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,337	Yes, that would be nice! I've used it several times now and it does away with the flatworms very well. Seriously, they just melt away. It can be a bit tough on the corals so do not make the dip too strong or leave the corals in too long. __________________ “Life is life's greatest gift. Guard the life of another creature as you would your own because it is your own. On life's scale of values, the smallest is no less precious to the creature who owns it than the largest...” ( Dr. Lloyd Biggle Jr.) "In among the branches of the corals, like birds among trees, floated many beautiful fish, radiant with metallic greens or crimsons...." J. Beete Jukes 1842-46 Current Tank Info: 215 Oceanic, Dart Pump, Vortech MP 40's, ATI Powermodule 10x80 watts, 46 gallon freshwater planted tank, 3,500+ gallon backyard pond, 12 gallon mantis tank

09/23/2007, 10:38 AM	#751
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	I would chip off the tissue off the live rock, and either treat it in Fluke, or toss it out if you think it is infested. Betadine is simply too harsh. I have a huge bottle of the stuff, which cost me about $13. I think I still have $12.90 left.

09/23/2007, 03:45 PM	#752
johnvu713 Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: houston Posts: 732	what do you think about potassium permaganate?

09/23/2007, 05:23 PM	#753
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	I read the article, but as Eric pointed out, it is too soon to know for sure how that will work out. Keep in mind that was being recommended for monti-eating nudibranchs, not AEFWs.

09/23/2007, 06:49 PM	#754
johnvu713 Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: houston Posts: 732	i use potassium permaganate to dip my frags for less than 5 minutes, saw redbugs killed. 1 frag is recovered, the other three are doing alright. still dont know the exact dosage to treat.

09/23/2007, 06:53 PM	#755
johnvu713 Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: houston Posts: 732	anyway, i am new to the hobby; i am planning to set a 10 sps gallon quarantine tank. does anybody recommend what light in watt should i use? thanks

10/23/2007, 09:19 PM	#762
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	I just opened up my bottle and it smells exactly like Pine Sol, and looks like it when you pour it in water. Hmm.

10/23/2007, 09:25 PM	#763
kau_cinta_ku Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,669	well i guess when your done killing the AEFW's you could always mop the kitchen floor afterwards and make the wife happy

10/23/2007, 10:26 PM	#766
Me No Nemo Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,337	...and yeah, I thought the same thing, about smelling like Pine Sol. But, it always makes our lab small great when we're done! __________________ “Life is life's greatest gift. Guard the life of another creature as you would your own because it is your own. On life's scale of values, the smallest is no less precious to the creature who owns it than the largest...” ( Dr. Lloyd Biggle Jr.) "In among the branches of the corals, like birds among trees, floated many beautiful fish, radiant with metallic greens or crimsons...." J. Beete Jukes 1842-46 Current Tank Info: 215 Oceanic, Dart Pump, Vortech MP 40's, ATI Powermodule 10x80 watts, 46 gallon freshwater planted tank, 3,500+ gallon backyard pond, 12 gallon mantis tank

10/24/2007, 12:53 AM	#767
makoJ Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 1,472 Blog Entries: 3	does it kill the eggs? __________________ TOTM March 2008 It takes a strong man to cry, but it takes an even stronger man to laugh at that man. --300Gal SPS tank long gone but new tank on the horizon Current Tank Info: Custom 110g, Lights: Radion's Flow: 2 Vortechs

02/05/2008, 09:31 AM	#769
simon.007 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OC, CA, US Posts: 2,135	Any news about ReVive Coral Cleanerâ„¢? Simon

02/05/2008, 12:55 PM	#770
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	I'm using it as a dip prior to adding any corals to my tank, but I've not had any corals covered with AEFW to test it specifically. I did want to note that Naka recently discovered AEFW in his beautiful tank, but his method of erradicating them is to turkey baste the coral frequently (virtually daily) to send the flatworms flying so his fish can gobble them up. You can read more about that in his thread.

02/05/2008, 01:34 PM	#771
Stoney Mahony Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 1,010	Still aefw free. __________________ "Don't these silly monkeys know that Eden has enough to go around?" MJK "Free thinkers are dangerous!" Serj Tankian Current Tank Info: 45 g hex- 50 lbs LR, Softies, Clams, LPS, wet dry, berlin skimmer w/150 watt HQI. 55 g SPS- 90 lbs LR w/ 20 g caulerpa fuge, 35 g cheato fuge w/ 98w PC. 2x 400 watt XM 20k,Berlin XL skimmer, Intermatic timer on pumps for wave action

02/05/2008, 04:23 PM	#772
Dudester Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,218	Good to hear, Stoney. Are you using Fluke Tabs as a dip for new acquisitions? __________________ The Dude abides Current Tank Info: building a new home tank l 450g office tank with Deltec everything

02/13/2008, 11:10 AM	#773
Stoney Mahony Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 1,010	Yeppers. __________________ "Don't these silly monkeys know that Eden has enough to go around?" MJK "Free thinkers are dangerous!" Serj Tankian Current Tank Info: 45 g hex- 50 lbs LR, Softies, Clams, LPS, wet dry, berlin skimmer w/150 watt HQI. 55 g SPS- 90 lbs LR w/ 20 g caulerpa fuge, 35 g cheato fuge w/ 98w PC. 2x 400 watt XM 20k,Berlin XL skimmer, Intermatic timer on pumps for wave action

02/14/2008, 03:49 PM	#775
redspot321 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: palm bay fl Posts: 1,711	Mark, would you say that Fluke tabs are a good place to start with ridding these worms? Vs the betadine or Lugols solution?