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Unread 01/14/2019, 11:26 PM   #1
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Internal basement sump pump?

Hey guys I was just looking for opinions on a pump for a 40g display tank that requires 200-400gph of flow (its a 40g Nuvo fusion EXT) but the issue is that my sump is in the basement (its not drilled...hence submersible pump) its acrylic and about 120g.

Would a Eheim 1262 be a good choice or would a Mag 18 or mag 24 be the better option here? Heat isn't a option as I'm in Canada and its cold!!!

There is approx 10ft vertical and 8-10 ft horizontal of distance to cover with maybe one gate valve on drain and a ball valve after the return pump and a few 45's. Considering flexible PVC too cause I can get it locally.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Unread 01/14/2019, 11:32 PM   #2
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How about this one as well?
https://www.reefsupplies.ca/online-s...0-1321gph.html


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Unread 01/15/2019, 12:14 AM   #3
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Maybe external than: this?
https://www.reefsupplies.ca/online-s...p-1100gph.html


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I have a sump in the basement and I just run a couple Jebao DCT Pumps. I have a 180 gallon tank and a 115 gallon sump. They have been running for a year with no issue. I run two because I travel a lot so I run them both turned down. If one fails any I'm away. I can just tell the house sitter to turn up the other pump. they are cheap, quiet compared to AC and reliable.


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Unread 01/15/2019, 07:56 AM   #5
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The Panworld is a much better option due to the 28 ft of head pressure its rated for. The sicce is rated for 12.8ft and after the 10ft of rise and 10ft of horizontal plus 45's there will barely be a trickle coming out


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Never thought of running two pumps. Jabao hey are they reliable,loud? Didn't want to drill my sump but I don't think there is much to it??


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Never thought of running two pumps. Jabao hey are they reliable,loud? Didn't want to drill my sump but I don't think there is much to it??
Jeabo is junk and reliability isn't there at all. Drilling a acrylic tank is easy as can be. Get the Panworld and you won't have to worry about the pump failing for literally decades


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I also would recommend an external AC pump for reliability and head pressure.

Panworld, Blueline, iwaki (all the same, I believe?)


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Another recommendation for the PW/BL/Iwaki pump. Workhorses and will last YEARS without issue other than cleaning out the impeller inner vanes when they get clogged with snails and reduce flow output.

PW/BL are the same (basically). The Iwaki eng left to form PW and BL is another branch. Coralife used to have external pumps private labelled by them.


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I know of many BL/PW/Iwaki/CoralLife pumps that have been running for 8+ years.


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On another note sump is in place on the new stand I built. It's 36 " high the stand so I saved some head!


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So I'm trying to decide which panword pump to get I rechecked my headlosss,I have about 12 ft vertical and 5 ft horizontal. Panword 100 or 150px? Can u restrict the flow after the pump? My concern is the display tank only requires 200-400gph. Does a pump require a certain gph intake to function as my overflow is only offfering up to 400gph?


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12ft vertical and 5 horizontal which pan World? 100px or 150? They can be restricted on the outlet side right or diverted to sump.


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I would get the 150 and just put a gate valve after the pump so you can restrict it if need be


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Can u restrict the flow after the pump?
Yes, you can restrict the pressure (output) side of this type of pump. It won't hurt it at all. The pump just sees it as more head pressure. But you can't restrict the intake.

They actually use less power when flow is restricted.


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