DSPS tank from Thailand (1000 gallon+) - Page 312

Cabj1970 · 06/27/2013, 01:55 PM

Chinachai,
Back in the day you use to run 140w x 4 (aquasun) + 110w x 3 (aquasun) + 110w x 3(454). I dont see those Aquasun VHO's anymore. Are you still using them. Sorry if i missed it in a previous thread

bullitr · 06/27/2013, 03:49 PM

Sir may I suggest something? I always look up to your build thread and follow some of the things that you do. But recently I had bad luck adding RARE angels in the tank even though they seems to be very healthy then velvet comes out the wipe the whole tank (my joculator angel did that recently). Why not remove all the fish in your tank since you don’t have that much at the moment? Go fallow for a 2 months to remove all the nasty’s in main tank and QT all of your fish with prazipo and cupramine 0.3 for angels and other copper sensitive fish and 0.5 for tangs.I believe the Nacrosis or the new addition brought some nasty's in your tank.I know is painful but after few very bad experience I think is the only way. Also make sure that no livestock contamination since ICK attached itself to pebbles, rocks, corals and equipment. That means all the corals have to be QT too on coral only tank for few weeks before added them in to the display.with that said ICK may still show up but they seems to be less deadly.

I am not the most patience reefer here but I am learning to take it slow.
Your tank will still be stunning with just corals.

auem · 06/28/2013, 02:18 AM

Chingchai,how your cold water tank is doing...?

chingchai · 06/29/2013, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cabj1970

Chinachai,
Back in the day you use to run 140w x 4 (aquasun) + 110w x 3 (aquasun) + 110w x 3(454). I dont see those Aquasun VHO's anymore. Are you still using them. Sorry if i missed it in a previous thread

No, I don't use them anymore. I replace with LED white from Eco-Lamps KR99M.

chingchai · 06/29/2013, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitr

Sir may I suggest something? I always look up to your build thread and follow some of the things that you do. But recently I had bad luck adding RARE angels in the tank even though they seems to be very healthy then velvet comes out the wipe the whole tank (my joculator angel did that recently). Why not remove all the fish in your tank since you don’t have that much at the moment? Go fallow for a 2 months to remove all the nasty’s in main tank and QT all of your fish with prazipo and cupramine 0.3 for angels and other copper sensitive fish and 0.5 for tangs.I believe the Nacrosis or the new addition brought some nasty's in your tank.I know is painful but after few very bad experience I think is the only way. Also make sure that no livestock contamination since ICK attached itself to pebbles, rocks, corals and equipment. That means all the corals have to be QT too on coral only tank for few weeks before added them in to the display.with that said ICK may still show up but they seems to be less deadly.

I am not the most patience reefer here but I am learning to take it slow.
Your tank will still be stunning with just corals.

Lawrence. Thank you for your advice.
But now fishes are all okay. No sign of disease.

chingchai · 06/29/2013, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by auem

Chingchai,how your cold water tank is doing...?

It is still running but no rare fishes and corals at the moment.

bullitr · 06/29/2013, 09:05 PM

Sir the fish may appear great because they are able to fight off the velvet or other nastys in the tank but they still a carrier.

Sorry if I appear pushy but I thought I will try to make you think about it more.

Thank you

chingchai · 06/30/2013, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitr

Sir the fish may appear great because they are able to fight off the velvet or other nastys in the tank but they still a carrier.

Sorry if I appear pushy but I thought I will try to make you think about it more.

Thank you

You are exactly right. Thank you for your concern.

mr.lamnguyen · 06/30/2013, 02:23 AM

very speechless tank.

ange062 · 07/01/2013, 01:31 AM

Beautiful as always, haven't checked in in a while but love tue changes and current look!

Briney Dave · 07/02/2013, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chingchai

No, I don't use them anymore. I replace with LED white from Eco-Lamps KR99M.

Ching, I have been waiting on LED lighting as its such an up-front cost for my classroom. Can you share with me how you have those arranged their number and any critical info that I am not educated enough about LED lighting to ask.
Am I right that you are using the LEDs for balance and boost but not the primary lighting??

are you pleased with what those LED's are producing? what changes would you like if not??

I have a set-up similar to what I think you had which was m/h in a grid and the tube lights between and around the outer edge

I know Peter made the leap right away but I can not afford to take such a risk without long-term data showing good coral growth over a longer period of time

lastly, do you see yourself switching out the m/h lighting as well if so could you share your thoughts on what that might look like too.

thank you for your time and knowledge.

chingchai · 07/04/2013, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Briney Dave

Ching, I have been waiting on LED lighting as its such an up-front cost for my classroom. Can you share with me how you have those arranged their number and any critical info that I am not educated enough about LED lighting to ask.
Am I right that you are using the LEDs for balance and boost but not the primary lighting??

are you pleased with what those LED's are producing? what changes would you like if not??

I have a set-up similar to what I think you had which was m/h in a grid and the tube lights between and around the outer edge

I know Peter made the leap right away but I can not afford to take such a risk without long-term data showing good coral growth over a longer period of time

lastly, do you see yourself switching out the m/h lighting as well if so could you share your thoughts on what that might look like too.

thank you for your time and knowledge.

Dave. I think you know about LED more than me. Really.
For me, I use LED just for the supplement.
At the moment I don't have any plan to switch my main lighting from MH to LED. I am still very happy with the combination of MH+LED+VHO.

chingchai · 07/04/2013, 06:52 PM

mr.lamnguyen, ange062.
Thank you.

Briney Dave · 07/08/2013, 08:20 AM

thanks for the reply Ching, I doubt very much that I know more about the LED lighting than you.

its so frustrating as I keep hearing great things from different sources then something very counter from the next. It would be a great savings to even replace the t-5 lighting but I am still so nervous about making a change from what I know and is working okay.

mr.lamnguyen · 07/09/2013, 02:27 AM

i had the ecotech radian, now i just changed to Geniesmann Fixture t5 and MH. my opinion right now is mH show me some color that Led can't, it look coral more colorful. But the minus point is the heat, its too hot lol, before my led only make my chiller run once a day, not it runs 3 times a day. lol

theReefKing · 07/19/2013, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.lamnguyen

i had the ecotech radian, now i just changed to Geniesmann Fixture t5 and MH. my opinion right now is mH show me some color that Led can't, it look coral more colorful. But the minus point is the heat, its too hot lol, before my led only make my chiller run once a day, not it runs 3 times a day. lol

This is the argument that we will be talking about for years.
I have AI Vega over my 180, and Orphek PR-156 over my 110. Neither give me the color and growth that we get in our MH systems.

but I WANT LEDs to work.

There are so many benefits to them over the MH, but they got to perform!!

Chingchai, what would it take for you to feel comfortable with changing? Or is there no intention or desire to make that change?

FuzzyZipperbaum · 07/20/2013, 06:33 AM

This thread is nearing 3 million views...amazing.

Floyd R Turbo · 07/20/2013, 11:07 AM

Previous split has 1,007,241
This one has 2,968,320

So technically it's approaching 4 million (3975561)

bullitr · 07/20/2013, 02:47 PM

I love your cold water set up sir.
Any updates on this tank.

chingchai · 07/22/2013, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theReefKing

This is the argument that we will be talking about for years.
I have AI Vega over my 180, and Orphek PR-156 over my 110. Neither give me the color and growth that we get in our MH systems.

but I WANT LEDs to work.

There are so many benefits to them over the MH, but they got to perform!!

Chingchai, what would it take for you to feel comfortable with changing? Or is there no intention or desire to make that change?

Until now, I don't have any plan to change my lighting yet.
It doesn't mean LED is not good enough. But it is just my personal preference.

chingchai · 07/22/2013, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitr

I love your cold water set up sir.
Any updates on this tank.

Here you go:

Normalaquatics · 07/22/2013, 08:15 AM

wow I'm LOVING that colony of multicolored (what looks like) feather dusters.

Reef_Noob · 07/23/2013, 02:05 AM

I would like to add...a tank of Chingchai's magnitude...taking into consideration especially the depth...I honestly don't think any LED system currently in the market can sustain SPS corals...
Tank dimensions play THE most important factor in selecting LED systems.
LEDs definately work...if you choose the right unit for the right tank dimension.

padova335i · 07/23/2013, 08:45 PM

favorite tank, that is what inspired my tank design,

biecacka · 07/23/2013, 09:02 PM

Couldn't one just go with tighter lens on the LEDs to get deeper penetration though? I know they would need more LEDs most likely

Corey

06/27/2013, 03:49 PM	#7777
bullitr broke but happy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: stevenson ranch, ca Posts: 14,053	Sir may I suggest something? I always look up to your build thread and follow some of the things that you do. But recently I had bad luck adding RARE angels in the tank even though they seems to be very healthy then velvet comes out the wipe the whole tank (my joculator angel did that recently). Why not remove all the fish in your tank since you don’t have that much at the moment? Go fallow for a 2 months to remove all the nasty’s in main tank and QT all of your fish with prazipo and cupramine 0.3 for angels and other copper sensitive fish and 0.5 for tangs.I believe the Nacrosis or the new addition brought some nasty's in your tank.I know is painful but after few very bad experience I think is the only way. Also make sure that no livestock contamination since ICK attached itself to pebbles, rocks, corals and equipment. That means all the corals have to be QT too on coral only tank for few weeks before added them in to the display.with that said ICK may still show up but they seems to be less deadly. I am not the most patience reefer here but I am learning to take it slow. Your tank will still be stunning with just corals. __________________ Lawrence SFVR member 435 gallon display in wall see through no more hyposalinity... Current Tank Info: 96x36x29 inwall

06/29/2013, 09:05 PM	#7782
bullitr broke but happy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: stevenson ranch, ca Posts: 14,053	Sir the fish may appear great because they are able to fight off the velvet or other nastys in the tank but they still a carrier. Sorry if I appear pushy but I thought I will try to make you think about it more. Thank you __________________ Lawrence SFVR member 435 gallon display in wall see through no more hyposalinity... Current Tank Info: 96x36x29 inwall Last edited by bullitr; 06/29/2013 at 09:12 PM.

07/01/2013, 01:31 AM	#7785
ange062 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 3,223	Beautiful as always, haven't checked in in a while but love tue changes and current look! __________________ JBJ NC28, Radion, MP10, HOB-1, Mini Arctica, 2LF Phosban 150's - MARSH May 2012 TOTM JBJ 3g Picotope, Panorama Pro, AC70 29g AGA Planted FW

07/04/2013, 06:52 PM	#7788
chingchai Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bangkok Thailand Posts: 5,670	mr.lamnguyen, ange062. Thank you. __________________ Ching (low profile) " Life is too short to drink bad wine " click on my homepage to see my tank on-line

07/20/2013, 11:07 AM	#7793
Floyd R Turbo Either busy or sleeping Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: West Des Moines, IA Posts: 4,265 Blog Entries: 15	Previous split has 1,007,241 This one has 2,968,320 So technically it's approaching 4 million (3975561) __________________ Algae Scrubber Basics!!! GOOGLE "algaescrubber zoho" General Interest Forums --> Advanced Topics --> Algae Scrubber Basics (sticky) --> POSTS #3251-64 (Basics), #5206 (Cleaning), #6884 (LEDs), #729

06/27/2013, 01:55 PM	#7776
Cabj1970 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: south jersey Posts: 338	Chinachai, Back in the day you use to run 140w x 4 (aquasun) + 110w x 3 (aquasun) + 110w x 3(454). I dont see those Aquasun VHO's anymore. Are you still using them. Sorry if i missed it in a previous thread

06/28/2013, 02:18 AM	#7778
auem Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 816	Chingchai,how your cold water tank is doing...?

06/30/2013, 02:23 AM	#7784
mr.lamnguyen Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 67	very speechless tank.

07/08/2013, 08:20 AM	#7789
Briney Dave Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Fremont Posts: 1,325	thanks for the reply Ching, I doubt very much that I know more about the LED lighting than you. its so frustrating as I keep hearing great things from different sources then something very counter from the next. It would be a great savings to even replace the t-5 lighting but I am still so nervous about making a change from what I know and is working okay.

07/09/2013, 02:27 AM	#7790
mr.lamnguyen Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 67	i had the ecotech radian, now i just changed to Geniesmann Fixture t5 and MH. my opinion right now is mH show me some color that Led can't, it look coral more colorful. But the minus point is the heat, its too hot lol, before my led only make my chiller run once a day, not it runs 3 times a day. lol

07/20/2013, 06:33 AM	#7792
FuzzyZipperbaum Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wayne Manor, Tampa Florida Posts: 474	This thread is nearing 3 million views...amazing.

07/20/2013, 02:47 PM	#7794
bullitr broke but happy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: stevenson ranch, ca Posts: 14,053	I love your cold water set up sir. Any updates on this tank. __________________ Lawrence SFVR member 435 gallon display in wall see through no more hyposalinity... Current Tank Info: 96x36x29 inwall

07/22/2013, 08:15 AM	#7797
Normalaquatics Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: CT Posts: 75	wow I'm LOVING that colony of multicolored (what looks like) feather dusters.

07/23/2013, 02:05 AM	#7798
Reef_Noob Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,460	I would like to add...a tank of Chingchai's magnitude...taking into consideration especially the depth...I honestly don't think any LED system currently in the market can sustain SPS corals... Tank dimensions play THE most important factor in selecting LED systems. LEDs definately work...if you choose the right unit for the right tank dimension. __________________ If ya gonna do it...then do it right !! BUILDING A DREAM....SPS Dominated 105cm x 51cm x 54cm (Low Iron Belgian Glass)....Please visit my homepage for build thread. LED Lighting (CREE Main Unit 60w x2, T5 and T8 LED tubes), LED RGB-P Light bar, DIY Sump, Bubble King 180 Gen.2 Skimmer, TECO TR15 Chiller, Sicce Multi Return pump, X-Wave Rotary Device, Vortech MP40 ES, Hydor Korallia Wavemakers(2800 x2, 4000 x2), RR Wavemaker, 2x Nano Wavemakers, SIAM Ocean Media Reactor, Kent Phosphate Reactor, 6 Stage RO/DI unit, Ginko Sea Auto-top System. Current Tank Info: DREAM 1.0 is up and running..,DREAM 2.0 build is underway (Read on from Page 25)

07/23/2013, 08:45 PM	#7799
padova335i Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: long island ny Posts: 485	favorite tank, that is what inspired my tank design, __________________ 75 g tall mixed reef 40 gallon softies 400+ Display/650 mixed reef up and running! Current Tank Info: 70 & 20 gallon reefs with tons of zoos, and others

07/23/2013, 09:02 PM	#7800
biecacka Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 6,361	Couldn't one just go with tighter lens on the LEDs to get deeper penetration though? I know they would need more LEDs most likely Corey