Anemone vs. torch: which one is harder to keep in nano? - Page 2

L8Braker · 05/26/2017, 10:03 AM

The clowns will eventually kill a torch if they start hosting in it, so keep that in mind.

MMacro · 05/26/2017, 10:43 AM

As mentioned above Heteractis magnifica would get too large for your tank. With proper lighting and frequent water changes it is entirely possible to keep a bubble tip or rock flower in a 20 gallon given that there are no corals in the tank for it to sting.

Jadams · 05/26/2017, 11:14 AM

IMO (as stated earlier in this thread) there's no problem with keeping anem in a nano. But best to add it first, so it can find its spot and stay for a month or so without moving before adding anything else. GL either way!

NYCBOB · 05/26/2017, 12:35 PM

Keeping a bta in a nano of 20 gallon is fine. Having a mature system helps a lot.

Christian H · 05/26/2017, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Diana A

uummmm The anemone splits when it feels it is in danger. ie: bad water conditions or more likely not enough food. It splits when signs are bad as a defense because twos smaller ones have a better chance of surviving than one bigger one.

but what do i know, I'm just a girl

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BrianD · 05/26/2017, 01:26 PM

Let's stay on topic and chill a bit.

jstack · 05/26/2017, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mebeknob

Wanting to do a office desktop nano. 20 gallon max.
I want to keep it simple and have lots of movement, hence the question. I'd like to have a couple torches or a couple anemones and a pair of clowns and a shrimp.

So what would you do? Do a torch or an anemone?

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Why not both in a 20g should be fine. My btas touch my Euphyllias all the time never have any bad interactions, btas have a mild sting both my wall hammers pack a stronger punch and have held thier own ground when challenged. Would not do a shrimp with Torch or bta they love to pester. smaller the tank the more they will hover perch and clean all day grrrrrr
I will say out of the 2 the torch will be the harder to keep I find it funny but many can't keep these guys long.

Mebeknob · 05/26/2017, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jstack

Would not do a shrimp with Torch or bta they love to pester. smaller the tank the more they will hover perch and clean all day grrrrrr

I will say out of the 2 the torch will be the harder to keep I find it funny but many can't keep these guys long.

Good thought about the shrimp. Maybe wait till they have grown out enough and not single headed frags.

I may try both. Why not right??

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boombox3 · 05/27/2017, 05:13 PM

I have a rbta thats been quite happy for about 9 years in a 29 gallon with a pair of clowns. I feel an anemone wouldnt have a problem with this size tank i would make sure you buy a auto top off to prevent too much water evaporation. Also try to limit your fish with this size tank. My clowns can get territorial if fish are too near the anemone. Bought a torch but it died on me dunno why. I do a 20% water change every 2 weeks or so and throw in the back some new filter floss every 3-4 days with some chemipure elite. With such a small tank i wouldnt stir up the sand too much. Rather buy a good clean up crew that will do it for you. Hope this helps. Enjoy that anemone!

Mebeknob · 05/27/2017, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by boombox3

I have a rbta thats been quite happy for about 9 years in a 29 gallon with a pair of clowns. I feel an anemone wouldnt have a problem with this size tank i would make sure you buy a auto top off to prevent too much water evaporation. Also try to limit your fish with this size tank. My clowns can get territorial if fish are too near the anemone. Bought a torch but it died on me dunno why. I do a 20% water change every 2 weeks or so and throw in the back some new filter floss every 3-4 days with some chemipure elite. With such a small tank i wouldnt stir up the sand too much. Rather buy a good clean up crew that will do it for you. Hope this helps. Enjoy that anemone!

Yeah it seems a toss up which one to go with! Thanks for the advice.

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CleanReef · 05/27/2017, 07:52 PM

I've had a rbta in a 16g nuvo for 2.5 years. The last water change I did was around 20 months ago. It has split 2 times in 2.5 years. My water quality is choice according to any lfs.

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CleanReef · 05/27/2017, 07:53 PM

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LX20000 · 05/27/2017, 10:41 PM

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I've had a rbta in a 16g nuvo for 2.5 years. The last water change I did was around 20 months ago. It has split 2 times in 2.5 years. My water quality is choice according to any lfs.

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Wow...no water changes? Running skimmer? Which one? What media do you run?

Mebeknob · 05/28/2017, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CleanReef

I've had a rbta in a 16g nuvo for 2.5 years. The last water change I did was around 20 months ago. It has split 2 times in 2.5 years. My water quality is choice according to any lfs.

I loved 16 Nuvo tank! It's the perfect office desk tank. I was planning on doing the Nuvo 10 or 20 in my office.

Do you have this at work with you?

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CleanReef · 05/28/2017, 02:08 PM

I do still have this tank set up on my desk at work. I also live in Colorado. Nuvo tanks are great!

As for the other question, in my experience nobody really cares to know how to go without water changes. I think it's a thing where they want to dedicate time to the hobby. I put a lot of time into my home tank, but didn't want to deal with maintenance at work. No skimmer, just carbon.

brett559 · 05/28/2017, 03:30 PM

I tried a rose BTA in my 42g. It kept moving around, stresses me out. When it was on the move I got it out and sold it to another Reefer. I've had good success with Duncans and frogspawn in my tank. I've found those two easier than torches. Never had luck with those.

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Mebeknob · 05/29/2017, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CleanReef

I do still have this tank set up on my desk at work. I also live in Colorado. Nuvo tanks are great!

As for the other question, in my experience nobody really cares to know how to go without water changes. I think it's a thing where they want to dedicate time to the hobby. I put a lot of time into my home tank, but didn't want to deal with maintenance at work. No skimmer, just carbon.

At some point I'll move back to CO. Grew up there but currently working in AZ. I've had success with nanos and no skimmer as well. But I usually did weekly water changes. Do you dose then?

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CleanReef · 05/30/2017, 07:32 AM

No sir. Top up Rodi water and food every other day. That is the extent of my office tank maintenance.

Mebeknob · 05/30/2017, 10:08 AM

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No sir. Top up Rodi water and food every other day. That is the extent of my office tank maintenance.

That surprises me. I assume you don't have any corals then?

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CleanReef · 05/31/2017, 11:09 AM

just a few soft corals that will live without supps. Like mushrooms and soft tree corals. I've also kept zoas and green stars at home with success on the same method.

bcb577 · 06/01/2017, 09:19 PM

This thread interested me....I have a ten gallon nano and I had a torch for a few months before I knew of something called parameters,lol needless to say I learned a hard lesson,whatever we keep in our tanks we are responsible to keep our tanks running well to provide for the creatures we keep.I've seen youtube videos of people keeping bta in even a ten gallon nano.But for me after careful consideration,I'm waiting to get a bta when I get my 46 gallon going,which I've already begun! Keep what you want,but keep water quality and the fact that they can move wherever,and whenever they want,good luck!!

05/26/2017, 10:43 AM	#27
MMacro Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,442	As mentioned above Heteractis magnifica would get too large for your tank. With proper lighting and frequent water changes it is entirely possible to keep a bubble tip or rock flower in a 20 gallon given that there are no corals in the tank for it to sting. __________________ 155 Mixed Reef (48x31x24)

05/26/2017, 11:14 AM	#28
Jadams Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,475	IMO (as stated earlier in this thread) there's no problem with keeping anem in a nano. But best to add it first, so it can find its spot and stay for a month or so without moving before adding anything else. GL either way! __________________ Jeremy

05/26/2017, 01:26 PM	#31
BrianD Sir Brian The Lenient Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Mattoon, IL Posts: 32,111	Let's stay on topic and chill a bit. __________________ Always strive for the optimum environment, not the minimum environment. Current Tank Info: Empty

05/26/2017, 10:03 AM	#26
L8Braker Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 143	The clowns will eventually kill a torch if they start hosting in it, so keep that in mind.

05/26/2017, 12:35 PM	#29
NYCBOB Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 1,768	Keeping a bta in a nano of 20 gallon is fine. Having a mature system helps a lot.

05/27/2017, 05:13 PM	#34
boombox3 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 170	I have a rbta thats been quite happy for about 9 years in a 29 gallon with a pair of clowns. I feel an anemone wouldnt have a problem with this size tank i would make sure you buy a auto top off to prevent too much water evaporation. Also try to limit your fish with this size tank. My clowns can get territorial if fish are too near the anemone. Bought a torch but it died on me dunno why. I do a 20% water change every 2 weeks or so and throw in the back some new filter floss every 3-4 days with some chemipure elite. With such a small tank i wouldnt stir up the sand too much. Rather buy a good clean up crew that will do it for you. Hope this helps. Enjoy that anemone!

05/27/2017, 07:52 PM	#36
CleanReef Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 67	I've had a rbta in a 16g nuvo for 2.5 years. The last water change I did was around 20 months ago. It has split 2 times in 2.5 years. My water quality is choice according to any lfs. free ssl image hosting

05/27/2017, 07:53 PM	#37
CleanReef Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 67	Sorry, no preview on quick reply. Hope this works. free ssl image hosting

05/28/2017, 02:08 PM	#40
CleanReef Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 67	I do still have this tank set up on my desk at work. I also live in Colorado. Nuvo tanks are great! As for the other question, in my experience nobody really cares to know how to go without water changes. I think it's a thing where they want to dedicate time to the hobby. I put a lot of time into my home tank, but didn't want to deal with maintenance at work. No skimmer, just carbon.

05/28/2017, 03:30 PM	#41
brett559 In Memoriam Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 1,790	I tried a rose BTA in my 42g. It kept moving around, stresses me out. When it was on the move I got it out and sold it to another Reefer. I've had good success with Duncans and frogspawn in my tank. I've found those two easier than torches. Never had luck with those. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05/30/2017, 07:32 AM	#43
CleanReef Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 67	No sir. Top up Rodi water and food every other day. That is the extent of my office tank maintenance.

05/31/2017, 11:09 AM	#45
CleanReef Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 67	just a few soft corals that will live without supps. Like mushrooms and soft tree corals. I've also kept zoas and green stars at home with success on the same method.

06/01/2017, 09:19 PM	#46
bcb577 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Whitehall ohio Posts: 219	This thread interested me....I have a ten gallon nano and I had a torch for a few months before I knew of something called parameters,lol needless to say I learned a hard lesson,whatever we keep in our tanks we are responsible to keep our tanks running well to provide for the creatures we keep.I've seen youtube videos of people keeping bta in even a ten gallon nano.But for me after careful consideration,I'm waiting to get a bta when I get my 46 gallon going,which I've already begun! Keep what you want,but keep water quality and the fact that they can move wherever,and whenever they want,good luck!!