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Please help ID
I’ve answered these questions below. Can anyone help me ID; and point me in the right direction for treatment? Also interested to know if I should be treating the other 2 fish (melenarus wrasse, hawkfish) although they aren’t showing symptoms. All 3 are in QT. Thank you.
1. How old is this aquarium? QT has been set up for 2 months 2. If less than six months old, what is ammonia level? Undetectable 3. What is SG of this aquarium? How measured? 1.026 using Milwaukee digital 4. When was the last fish added to this aquarium? 2 weeks ago 5. Was it quarantined? If so, how? And how long? Was it prophylactically treated? How? Formalin bath and separate meth blue bath prior to QT tank. Halfway through 2nd dose of prazipro 6. If you are using a copper based medication, which one? How often do you measure level? When? N/A 7. If you are using hyposalinity, how did you calibrate your refractometer? N/A 8. Please describe in detail, the appearance of the fish? If there is one or more pimples, are they lumpy? What color? 1 out of 3 fish are showing symptoms. The fins look affected with white substance. Pics below. 9. Please describe the behavior of the fish as best you can. Is it acting reclusive? Is it always up towards the top of the aquarium? Is it avoiding light? How active is the fish? Fish is active and behaving normally. Maybe breathing a bit faster than normal. 10. Is the fish eating? What? Fish is eating freeze dried mysis soaked in selcon. Thanks in advance. I was going to bring this guy back to the LFS anyways but want to make sure the other 2 fish (melenarus wrasse and hawk fish) don’t bring this into my display tank. Last edited by FortyFour; 12/14/2019 at 11:11 PM. |
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It sorta looks like Lymphocystis: https://humble.fish/lymphocystis/
But I think I also see white "smudges" on the body. Is that a correct observation? |
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12/15/2019, 01:47 PM | #4 |
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Probably just Lympho then. Although with the frayed looking fins I can't completely rule out a bacterial infection: https://humble.fish/bacterial-infections/
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I would probably start dosing Metroplex + Kanaplex for good measure. Kana is a good wide spectrum antibiotic, and Metro treats brook + uronema. Something is going on here (like an infection). Fish don't usually die from Lympho. |
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Being that the hawkfish is showing no signs, should I consider adding him to the display? Or is that a recipe for disaster? Not sure if this is a case of my QT causing problems, or saving my tail. |
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I would dose Metroplex + Kanaplex for at least a week before adding the hawkfish to the DT. Just in case he is an asymptomatic carrier of whatever took down the dottyback.
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I have no way of getting metro/kana until tomorrow when the LFS opens. Nowhere else has it, and the metro I have on hand is long expired. To recap, each fish initially got a dip in meth blue and malachite green, as directed on the bottle. Then, a 1-2 day break, then prazipro for 7 days. Water change (source water from display tank), 3-4 days off, then 2nd round of prazipro. I cut that one short yesterday and did a water change. The hawkfish is showing zero signs and is eating and behaving normally. Mysis plus selcon. Going to keep feeding him and treat him with the metro/kana in observation. Again, not sure if the QT saved my tail or if my QT process weakened them into submission. |
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I don't see anything obviously wrong with the Melanurus. Did you notice any scratching or heavy breathing before he died? White stringy poo? Have you tested for ammonia to be sure this is not due to an environmental problem in QT??
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No scratching. Yes heavy breathing (wrasse). Did not notice white stringy poop. No flukes after postmortem RODI dip. Thanks again for your attention. |
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ANY ammonia can kill a fish. It needs to be zero at all times. I think slight traces of ammonia in QT kill fish more often than most people realize. |
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Going to continue down the metro/hanaplex route and monitor. Last edited by FortyFour; 12/16/2019 at 09:30 PM. |
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I would definitely dose Metro + Kana every 48 hours for 10-14 days as a precaution. |
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I dealt with a bacterial bloom when dosing metro/kana simultaneously and added an air stone to compensate for the lack of oxygen. Do I need to clean the tank before adding new fish to the QT? Thanks for you’re help here. Between this thread and some of your others I was able to get some very useful information. |
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