Adding "mini" package to current tank?

lmm1967 · 08/27/2016, 10:05 AM

Have a 60 cube that has been up and running for about 9 months. Have about 25 pounds of rock and a 2" sandbed.

Everyone is currently happy... Clown, Chromis, firefish, star and few little softies.

Wondering if adding something like a 40 gallon package to this tank would endanger my current livestock - or if the best bet would be to setup a 40 gallon tank to cycle and mature the package then transfer to the current tank.

Any suggestions?

liverock · 08/27/2016, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lmm1967

Have a 60 cube that has been up and running for about 9 months. Have about 25 pounds of rock and a 2" sandbed.

Everyone is currently happy... Clown, Chromis, firefish, star and few little softies.

Wondering if adding something like a 40 gallon package to this tank would endanger my current livestock - or if the best bet would be to setup a 40 gallon tank to cycle and mature the package then transfer to the current tank.

Any suggestions?

You should be fine adding to the tank....we do that all the time to established tanks. This is real live rock and sand, no cycle issues. I would not add any more sand....2 inches is plenty...

lmm1967 · 09/06/2016, 07:51 AM

Richard - placed a small order for some rock to add to existing tank - I'm sure the storm has you busy - just wanted to make sure the order did go through.

25 pounds - requested delivery on Saturday, Sep[t 10th to ATL if that is a possibility.

Thanks!

liverock · 09/06/2016, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lmm1967

Richard - placed a small order for some rock to add to existing tank - I'm sure the storm has you busy - just wanted to make sure the order did go through.

25 pounds - requested delivery on Saturday, Sep[t 10th to ATL if that is a possibility.

Thanks!

Yup

got it...waiting for the gulf to clear up after the hurricane...soon as I can dive....will advise!

sea ya

lmm1967 · 09/06/2016, 03:21 PM

Thanks. If we'd be better off waiting a week I'm fine with that too.

Don't jump in sloppy water because of me.

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liverock · 09/06/2016, 03:27 PM

LOL...is my job....40 years of this.....can you say shark proof? LOL

Luck_of_the_Dra · 09/08/2016, 03:23 PM

How's the water looking?

Grayhead · 09/08/2016, 10:07 PM

He sent a message earlier. Water looks like chocolate milk.

lmm1967 · 09/15/2016, 04:42 PM

50 lbs arriving Saturday. Going in a 60 cube & 20 long that are plumbed into a 40 breeder common sump.

Few pictures from today in case I forget to put up before / after pics. (Sorry about the crappy iPhone pics)

Both tanks setup with Bean Animal with DIY acrylic overflows - C2C on the cube and about 18" on the 20.

Return pump is Jebao DCS-7000 running at about 80% - probably gonna need a bigger pump.

Will be looking to go better on the skimmer soon as well - LifeReef or MTC most likely.

lmm1967 · 09/17/2016, 01:21 PM

Rock arrived - in perfect condition and is currently in the fuge / sump.

Quite a few snails and crabs and this.....

Can anyone identify it?

I'll upload more photos as things get arranged / identified / put in permanent place etc.

Has to be at least one Mantis in here because there is a good amount of very distinct clicking going on.

liverock · 09/17/2016, 02:16 PM

Looks like a pregnant toad fish.....lol....on vacation in Atlanta......pretty cool to get a fish in your live rock, then you know you got REAL live rock....

The pops....if you don't see a mantis, they are pistol shrimp...and a pistol you will seldom ever see!

Richard TBS
www.tbsaltwater.com

Grayhead · 09/17/2016, 02:39 PM

My tank clicks continuously.

liverock · 09/17/2016, 02:42 PM

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My tank clicks continuously.

The pistols are like 1/4 inch long...live symbiotically with the encrusting sponges/tunicates on the rock....I doubt you will ever see one...just hear them...

lmm1967 · 09/17/2016, 03:17 PM

Richard - your knowledge is as priceless as the rock. Thank you for sharing it!

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neiltus · 09/17/2016, 06:21 PM

Glad you got your shipment! Very interesting hitchhiker you have there.

Here is my pistol that came in on Richard's rock, he is about 2"-2.5" long. Need to get him a Goby. Pretty cool watching him tear up a Krill.

lmm1967 · 09/17/2016, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by neiltus

Glad you got your shipment! Very interesting hitchhiker you have there.

Here is my pistol that came in on Richard's rock, he is about 2"-2.5" long. Need to get him a Goby. Pretty cool watching him tear up a Krill.

I'll be spending a good amount of time "searching" for all the hidden stuff - I put a bottle trap in just for the sake of seeing if I would catch anything interesting.

lmm1967 · 09/28/2016, 08:15 PM

Talk about attitude. One f the Gorilla crabs - body about the size of a nickel - actually reached out and grabbed a pair of tongs. Tried to grab him so I could put in the sump and rather than retreat he attacked! Still didn't get him though. Don't want to hurt him.

I'm pretty sure the toadfish is eating pieces of shrimp finally.

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Mike Ordner · 09/29/2016, 09:30 PM

OP. That is a flathead clingfish in your first picture.

lmm1967 · 09/30/2016, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Ordner

OP. That is a flathead clingfish in your first picture.

Thank you.

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lmm1967 · 09/30/2016, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Ordner

OP. That is a flathead clingfish in your first picture.

He is becoming more comfortable - he'll grab a piece of shrimp almost from the tongs if I get it in front of his face.

Typically only comes out when lights are low - not when it's completely dark though.

lmm1967 · 10/07/2016, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by liverock

The pistols are like 1/4 inch long...live symbiotically with the encrusting sponges/tunicates on the rock....I doubt you will ever see one...just hear them...

Finally think I spotted one of these goes roaming a bit. They do NOT like light. Only about an 1/8" long. Can barely see him long enough to make out the shrimp shape.

Have spent probably 20 hours staring at all the life. Several of the crabs will now rush out of their hole in the rock to grab a small piece of shrimp or scallop from tongs and the monster will do some funny displays - looks like he's doing push-ups if he doesn't wanna be bothered. The large porcelain crab will take a piece of shrimp as well but the little hairy dudes will run up and steal it from him if they see it.

1/4" Urchin has been roaming this evening as well.

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08/27/2016, 10:05 AM	#1
lmm1967 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 153	Adding "mini" package to current tank? Have a 60 cube that has been up and running for about 9 months. Have about 25 pounds of rock and a 2" sandbed. Everyone is currently happy... Clown, Chromis, firefish, star and few little softies. Wondering if adding something like a 40 gallon package to this tank would endanger my current livestock - or if the best bet would be to setup a 40 gallon tank to cycle and mature the package then transfer to the current tank. Any suggestions?

09/06/2016, 03:27 PM	#6
liverock RC Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tampa Posts: 3,836	LOL...is my job....40 years of this.....can you say shark proof? LOL __________________ Rock-On! Madelyn & Jocelyn www.tbsaltwater.com Find us on Instagram tbs_liverockrocks Current Tank Info: mixed reef

09/08/2016, 03:23 PM	#7
Luck_of_the_Dra Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dallas Posts: 76	How's the water looking? __________________ To have the 'Luck of the draw' is to win something in a competition where the winner is chosen purely by chance.:D

09/17/2016, 02:16 PM	#11
liverock RC Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tampa Posts: 3,836	Looks like a pregnant toad fish.....lol....on vacation in Atlanta......pretty cool to get a fish in your live rock, then you know you got REAL live rock.... The pops....if you don't see a mantis, they are pistol shrimp...and a pistol you will seldom ever see! Richard TBS www.tbsaltwater.com __________________ Rock-On! Madelyn & Jocelyn www.tbsaltwater.com Find us on Instagram tbs_liverockrocks Current Tank Info: mixed reef

09/17/2016, 02:39 PM	#12
Grayhead Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 581	My tank clicks continuously. __________________ 240 Gallon mixed reef, Apex Controlled Radion gen4 pro/T-5 hybrid combo, TBS Liverock Lifereef sump, skimmer, and Fuge 2- MP 40, 1- Vectra M1 return pump, Build thread below http:

09/06/2016, 07:51 AM	#3
lmm1967 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 153	Richard - placed a small order for some rock to add to existing tank - I'm sure the storm has you busy - just wanted to make sure the order did go through. 25 pounds - requested delivery on Saturday, Sep[t 10th to ATL if that is a possibility. Thanks!

09/06/2016, 03:21 PM	#5
lmm1967 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 153	Thanks. If we'd be better off waiting a week I'm fine with that too. Don't jump in sloppy water because of me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09/08/2016, 10:07 PM	#8
Grayhead Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 581	He sent a message earlier. Water looks like chocolate milk.

09/15/2016, 04:42 PM	#9
lmm1967 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 153	50 lbs arriving Saturday. Going in a 60 cube & 20 long that are plumbed into a 40 breeder common sump. Few pictures from today in case I forget to put up before / after pics. (Sorry about the crappy iPhone pics) Both tanks setup with Bean Animal with DIY acrylic overflows - C2C on the cube and about 18" on the 20. Return pump is Jebao DCS-7000 running at about 80% - probably gonna need a bigger pump. Will be looking to go better on the skimmer soon as well - LifeReef or MTC most likely.

09/17/2016, 01:21 PM	#10
lmm1967 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 153	Rock arrived - in perfect condition and is currently in the fuge / sump. Quite a few snails and crabs and this..... Can anyone identify it? I'll upload more photos as things get arranged / identified / put in permanent place etc. Has to be at least one Mantis in here because there is a good amount of very distinct clicking going on.

09/17/2016, 03:17 PM	#14
lmm1967 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 153	Richard - your knowledge is as priceless as the rock. Thank you for sharing it! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09/17/2016, 06:21 PM	#15
neiltus Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 415	Glad you got your shipment! Very interesting hitchhiker you have there. Here is my pistol that came in on Richard's rock, he is about 2"-2.5" long. Need to get him a Goby. Pretty cool watching him tear up a Krill. __________________ Build Thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2592260

09/28/2016, 08:15 PM	#17
lmm1967 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 153	Talk about attitude. One f the Gorilla crabs - body about the size of a nickel - actually reached out and grabbed a pair of tongs. Tried to grab him so I could put in the sump and rather than retreat he attacked! Still didn't get him though. Don't want to hurt him. I'm pretty sure the toadfish is eating pieces of shrimp finally. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09/29/2016, 09:30 PM	#18
Mike Ordner Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 415	OP. That is a flathead clingfish in your first picture.