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Unread 04/17/2017, 10:17 AM   #326
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Fantastic! Thank you very much for your honest help with this. I will go ahead and order this now, and start doing less WC to keep up with the CA, Mg, and Kh.



Looking forward to using 1,2,3 sooner than later! I will just need to fill up the tank with more corals


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Unread 04/19/2017, 01:58 PM   #327
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Can you run 1, 2, 3 without balling method too?
Just an fyi,

Comp 1+ 2+ 3+ is "balling" and a great AF product.

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Unread 04/23/2017, 07:06 PM   #328
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I am a week into dosing 1+2+3+ and will definitely post what I see over the next few months. Here's my real question In addition I have purchased AF AMINO, Vitality, Build, and Energy. I know these are dosed in pairs every other day. Do you need to wait some time in between? ie Amino and then wait to dose Vitality? Or can the pair be added every other day dosed together? Any thoughts? Aquaforest? Thanks 😀

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Unread 04/23/2017, 07:20 PM   #329
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Yes your fine to pair . No need to wait .


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Unread 04/23/2017, 09:50 PM   #330
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I use a calcium reactor and add Kalk to the ATO. My intent was to dose Components A, B and C. I am considering taking the two reactors off line and dosing Components 1+2+3. My water volume is 180 gallons so I'll use the DIY mix. I have already purchased Component A, B and C (2 liter each) so need to use this instead of Strong A, B, C. How would the DIY formula look?


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Unread 04/24/2017, 10:46 AM   #331
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I use a calcium reactor and add Kalk to the ATO. My intent was to dose Components A, B and C. I am considering taking the two reactors off line and dosing Components 1+2+3. My water volume is 180 gallons so I'll use the DIY mix. I have already purchased Component A, B and C (2 liter each) so need to use this instead of Strong A, B, C. How would the DIY formula look?
I don't make my own but there is a great video for this on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/EP47ArjSVmw


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Unread 04/24/2017, 10:47 AM   #332
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Yes your fine to pair . No need to wait .


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Unread 04/24/2017, 11:25 AM   #333
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I use a calcium reactor and add Kalk to the ATO. My intent was to dose Components A, B and C. I am considering taking the two reactors off line and dosing Components 1+2+3. My water volume is 180 gallons so I'll use the DIY mix. I have already purchased Component A, B and C (2 liter each) so need to use this instead of Strong A, B, C. How would the DIY formula look?


Hey! Curious why take down the reactor?


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Unread 04/24/2017, 12:18 PM   #334
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Hey! Curious why take down the reactor?
1) I get tired of status quo and sometimes need to try something else.
2) A bit more control over how much calcium is needed.
3) See number 1.


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Unread 04/24/2017, 03:50 PM   #335
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I don't make my own but there is a great video for this on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/EP47ArjSVmw


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Video uses Component Strong A,B,C. Looking for formula using Component A,B,C (not Strong).

But thanks, good video.


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Unread 04/25/2017, 01:35 PM   #336
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I use a calcium reactor and add Kalk to the ATO. My intent was to dose Components A, B and C. I am considering taking the two reactors off line and dosing Components 1+2+3. My water volume is 180 gallons so I'll use the DIY mix. I have already purchased Component A, B and C (2 liter each) so need to use this instead of Strong A, B, C. How would the DIY formula look?


Components strong A,B,C,K is a lot stronger solution than Components A,B,C. This means you'll need to dose a lot more of it to achieve the same results.

My personal recommendation is to go and buy the components strong so you mix everything to the right strength. Besides you will still need to purchase the K (potassium ) portion to mix all the solutions correctly.


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Unread 04/25/2017, 01:43 PM   #337
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Components strong A,B,C,K is a lot stronger solution than Components A,B,C. This means you'll need to dose a lot more of it to achieve the same results.

My personal recommendation is to go and buy the components strong so you mix everything to the right strength. Besides you will still need to purchase the K (potassium ) portion to mix all the solutions correctly.


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Yes I did think the strong was used for mixing it yourself. Once you find the right mix it should be just like regular 1 2 3. It just you're able to make large batches using less. I have no idea of the cost savings g though...


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Unread 04/25/2017, 02:29 PM   #338
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Components strong A,B,C,K is a lot stronger solution than Components A,B,C. This means you'll need to dose a lot more of it to achieve the same results.

My personal recommendation is to go and buy the components strong so you mix everything to the right strength. Besides you will still need to purchase the K (potassium ) portion to mix all the solutions correctly.


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That's what I'll eventually do (Strong). Right now I have unopened 2 liter bottles of Component A, B, C that I need to use. At 34 ml per week that's enough to last a year (180g tank).


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Unread 04/25/2017, 02:51 PM   #339
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That's what I'll eventually do (Strong). Right now I have unopened 2 liter bottles of Component A, B, C that I need to use. At 34 ml per week that's enough to last a year (180g tank).


Like i said it's possible to use it at an increased rate. Your still going to need the K strong for the component +3 .


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Unread 04/27/2017, 02:46 PM   #340
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As You Can see in our Guide

There is few ways to dose Macro and Micro:



1 - Ca Plus, KH Plus, MG Plus (macro) + Component A, Component B, Component C(micro)
2 - Calcium, Magnesium, KH Buffer, Reef Mineral Salt ( Macro) + Components Strong (micro)
3- Calcium, Magnesium, KH Buffer, Reef Mineral Salt ( Macro) + Kalium, Iodum, Fluorine, Iron, Strontium, Micro E (micro)
4 - Component 1+2+3+

Every ways working the same - but Aquarist should find comfortable products for self


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Am I correct to understand that Option 1 = 4, Option 2 = 4, and Option 3 = 4? If yes, then does anyone have a recipe for Option 1?



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Unread 04/27/2017, 04:59 PM   #341
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Am I correct to understand that Option 1 = 4, Option 2 = 4, and Option 3 = 4? If yes, then does anyone have a recipe for Option 1?
I believe that should be it. As per AF recommendations.

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Unread 04/27/2017, 10:49 PM   #342
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That's correct You would follow the directions on the individual products directions. There is no recipe per say with option one.

If you want to mix your own components +1,+2,+3 then yes there is a recipe to make your own option 4.




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Unread 04/28/2017, 03:39 PM   #343
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Update on my tank after the Mag reading of 2000 and Calc 500.
Mag is now down to 1450
Calc down to 420
Alk is steady 8 DKH now and the uptake of All has doubled this week from 40ml per day to 80ml per Day.

Am I okay to start dosing 20ml per day 1,2 and 3 again and slowly increase as the Mag drops?
Just concerned my trace elements are depleted. thx Miles


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Unread 04/28/2017, 05:11 PM   #344
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What is your phosphate and nitrate at?


My suggestion right now would be to keep your Alk , and calcium steady and continue to let the magnesium drop down some more. You should be ok and I wouldn't be over concerned.


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Nitrate 2.5ppm
Phos 0.015

So I am on track with the nutrients...my concern is the other trace elements.
My Alk is gone from 40ml to 80ml consumption per day.
Mag is now 1420
Calc 420

Will do a 10 percent water change tomorrow.


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hi,

I'm using "component 1+2+3" thet of course... I'm dosing in the equal ml per day... but my problem is to reduce the Ca (now 450) and also the Mg (now 1350)... dKH is Ok.

My target is Ca (400) and Mg (1300). I calculated that for my daily consumption I must stop with the dosing for 19 days for the Ca and 290 days for the Mg... and logicaly I need to put KH buffer for compensate. Do other methods exist?


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hi,

I'm using "component 1+2+3" thet of course... I'm dosing in the equal ml per day... but my problem is to reduce the Ca (now 450) and also the Mg (now 1350)... dKH is Ok.

My target is Ca (400) and Mg (1300). I calculated that for my daily consumption I must stop with the dosing for 19 days for the Ca and 290 days for the Mg... and logicaly I need to put KH buffer for compensate. Do other methods exist?


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You could do water changes also.


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I'm using "component 1+2+3" thet of course... I'm dosing in the equal ml per day... but my problem is to reduce the Ca (now 450) and also the Mg (now 1350)... dKH is Ok.

My target is Ca (400) and Mg (1300). I calculated that for my daily consumption I must stop with the dosing for 19 days for the Ca and 290 days for the Mg... and logicaly I need to put KH buffer for compensate. Do other methods exist?


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I am having the same problems.......I dose equally now and dose extra Alk to keep up with consumption...but just 20ml of all 3 to keep my Calc at 420 but my Mg is 1440.....some people say high Mg is not a problem and 400 calc too low? Surely if your Kh is stable and the Ca/ Mg is your okay?
ALL tanks cannot have the same consumption of all 3 elements?


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Unread 05/08/2017, 01:03 PM   #349
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So if he is using AF reef salt which ranges from 410-430 CA then a 25% water change will bring his CA down a massive 5mg/l and Magnesium would have no effect if anything as Reef Salt states a range between 1300-1360mg/l.

IF the tank has ended up at these levels from equal dosing (as mine did) then surely the dose should be lowered to make up for the higher Ca and Mg and a lower DKH maintained in the tank??


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So if he is using AF reef salt which ranges from 410-430 CA then a 25% water change will bring his CA down a massive 5mg/l and Magnesium would have no effect if anything as Reef Salt states a range between 1300-1360mg/l.



IF the tank has ended up at these levels from equal dosing (as mine did) then surely the dose should be lowered to make up for the higher Ca and Mg and a lower DKH maintained in the tank??


You can definitely adjust your dosing also. As he said this will take some time. He specifically asked if there was anything else he could do. I'm not aware of another way you can just automatically drop your levels to be perfect. This is why testing is important and adjustments are sometimes needed. There are many variables some of which may have no reflection on the product itself. These can included things like a dosing pump that isn't calibrated correctly, increase or decrease in coral cast, fragging of corals may cause other to shutdown use of elements, environmental conditions. Many things go into keeping everything balanced.


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