6 Simple Tips for Keeping Zoanthids Happy, Healthy, and Growing Fast

[A. Grandis]

Originally Posted by Grimreaperz

Then why are you here???

We tend to come to these forums for ppl that care and want to give unbiased advice
Not arrogant know it alls. that think there way is the only way.

I come here to try help people not to add too much trash in their tanks and feed wisely.
Also, to say that if you have T5s, instead those expensive LEDs, your life will be much, much easier in regards to light. That's IMO.

But that is only my point of view!!
Do I respect others? Yep. Did I try LEDs to say that? Yep, so...

I just think everyone has their own way to deal with their tanks and the right to suggest what they want. Yep, 1000s of ways to skin the cat!!! I agree 100%!
I say things here to let people know what would be the best way, IMO.

I don't care about arguments trying to proof anything. That's what I don't care!
What I post is to try to help others. I do care about that.



Grandis.

[SUPAkg]

Thanks for the tips and nice looking stuff

[A. Grandis]

You're welcome.



Grandis.

[Grimreaperz]

Originally Posted by A. Grandis

I come here to try help people not to add too much trash in their tanks and feed wisely.
Also, to say that if you have T5s, instead those expensive LEDs, your life will be much, much easier in regards to light. That's IMO.

But that is only my point of view!!
Do I respect others? Yep. Did I try LEDs to say that? Yep, so...

I just think everyone has their own way to deal with their tanks and the right to suggest what they want. Yep, 1000s of ways to skin the cat!!! I agree 100%!
I say things here to let people know what would be the best way, IMO.

I don't care about arguments trying to proof anything. That's what I don't care!
What I post is to try to help others. I do care about that.



Grandis.

It's all in the presentation. Making suggestions or stating your opinion and being condescending and arrogant are 2 different things.

But again that's just my opinion.

If you read the original post I quoted of your. It's riddles with arrogance condescension. Not needed in a place like this.

But again this is just my opinion.

Thanks for reading. Now I will refrain from responding further as I fear this is derailing the nature of the post.




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[A. Grandis]

You told me I was bugging you, so I gave you a reason for that!

No hard feelings!


Grandis.

[A. Grandis]

Actually you friend told me I was bugging him...
The you came to bug me!
Just kidding!!!

Grandis.

[hitawaah]

This is a child playing a prank, his dad left his tablet open on the table and I'll give credit where it's due he can actually spell or has a spell checker. Lol.

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[hitawaah]

It was a great thread, later I am out of here better things to do like anything else besides reading his posts

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[A. Grandis]

The truth is that I really have no more patience for forums anymore!
Sorry!

I see lots of things I don't agree and people really think those things are right.
The talk in the hobby came to a point that is just unacceptable to me.
Only if you don't know better you keep up with this weird plastic way to "reef".
They see shelves with plugs in tiny tanks as a normal thing.
people buy one polyp in a white plug and that is the norm!?!
They just chopped a colony and superglued that one polyp on that plug to make easy money on you. Can't you see that!!!!
The newbies aren't wrong nor the problem, but the new ideas and the money makers of the hobby are simply destroying what once was a beautiful way of education and enjoyment.
The newbies are victims! They fall in the trap and follow the current.
People need to wake up!!!
Accept that Florida's runoff sewage could possibly be an example? C'mon, please!
The T5/LEDs differences are debatable, but that also has been done and still depends on taste and preferences, I understand...

Well, one thing is right: if I come here to try help people this way it is better not to come.
I guess one could search and find most of the answers to the normal questions asked anyway.

I really think I don't belong to forums anymore.
Have a great time and sorry for ruined this thread!

Aloha!
Grandis.

[that Fish Guy]

I am Sorry Everybody.

I have been away from my thread for a while.

I have been very very busy but will try to get back to answer any questions as often as I can.

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by HarlequinAddict

Hey dude, nice zoas! But obviously this can't be achieved with a master reefer taking care of them. Dude I wanna start my own zoa garden like yours, but I got a few questions. The bayer dip how long do you leave the zoa colony in the bayer liquid and when they finish their dip do you wash it off before putting it in the tank? So how can I get these nitrates without fish? I know about the reef roids I won't target feed because that becomes time consuming, especially with a garden. So you feed them everyday. How much reef roids do you put everyday? I use phytofeast as my source of plankton. Its really concentrated stuff. How many caps do you recommend I put in? The tank I wanna use for the garden is a rectangular prism. How many times a week should I dose alkalinity? I use reef fusion 1 and 2. So how many caps per day? How frequently do you do water changes and how many gallons should I replace with the water change for a 20 gallon? How do I get the nitrates high with no fish? I know how to get the phosphates high... Easy, reef roids! Dude, and lastly THANK YOU for this guide. I wanna start the garden to see if this can be a means of income. Does the same thing apply with palys?

1. Bayer Dip

- I Leave the Zoanthids in the Bayer Dip for 15 Minutes.

- Then I Rinse it before putting it back in the tank.

- You do not want to get the Bayer in the Tank.

2. To Get Nitrates without fish use Coral Food like Reef Roids.

- I Do the Recommended Amount - 1/4 Teaspoon for Every 25 Gallons.

- I try to feed them three times a week.

- I don't feed every day.

3. Alkalinity

- It Depends as every Tank is Different. I have One Tank that I have not Dosed in 3 Months. I have another Tank that I Dose 2 to 4 Times a day.

Always Test Before you Dose.

Never Dump Stuff in without Testing.

4. Water Changes

- I Used to Do Water Changes Every Week but Now I Try to Do them Every 3 Weeks.

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by nmotz

Really good stuff, and I agree very much about how higher light benefits zoas. Mine browned out because I stuck them in a dim corner of the tank, but when I brought them more central they started to dazzle again. In fact, I have yet to find a coral that doesn't enjoy higher light actually. They just don't want it all at once. You have to acclimate to high light conditions. But once you do, watch out, they grow fast!

For Sure

They Like More Light than Most People Think.

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by mpyers

How strict is the no butterfly rule? I'm considering getting one for aiptasia control. I don't have zoas yet but i plan to because they're my favorite. Im new at this.

I Use Peppermint Shrimp or Aiptasia-X for Aiptasia (Depending on how bad the situation is).

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by CLR

Great information , thanks for posting , definitely looking out for pox now !

Your Welcome

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by A. Grandis

Thanks for posting!! Good thread.

I still would like to know more about the definition of "dirty water" by many.
Everyone has they preferred level of dirty in they water...
What would be "dirty" in the water?
Why would you think that?
Who invented that?


Also I can't understand those dark blue tanks...
Is that the light you guys have all day long?
Is that LEDs? Or T5s?
I'm getting older. LOL!!!!

Cheers!
Grandis.

Your Welcome

Dirty Water is Elevated Nitrates and Phosphates.

I have no clue who invented but the term has been around and used alot for as long as I have been in the Hobby.

My Pics are Taken Under LED.

Half My Tanks are LED
Half are T5HO

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by mountainraised

What amount of wattage do zoas like under LED? Is there a general rule of thumb?

It is Best to Go by PAR and Not Watts.

But I do not have a PAR Meter so I couldn't tell you sorry

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by ohmygod

ur the zoa man. how fast ur zoanthid grow? I feel like they feel better happier when my water a bit dirty

It Depends on the Type of Zoanthid.

Some Grow Super Fast

Others Do Not Grow at All

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by cubbyman60

Great thread. What kind of lights are you using? What about schedule? They look like their all pretty close to the surface?
Thanks.

Thank You

I have 3 Tanks that are T5HO
I have 3 Tanks that are LED

Lights are on 6 Hours a Day

My Zoanthids are Between 6 and 11 Inches from the Surface Depending on the Tank.

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by mountainraised

What do you dose daily on your tanks?

I Dose Nothing Daily.

Reef Roid and Fuel Twice a Week is what I Dose.

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by hitawaah

Awesome tips man I got a 300 gallon tank I'm setting up and was really liking zoos. . But I didn't have as much info in everything I've read so far, as what you put in your first post. Thanks for the info keep up the good work man!!

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Your Welcome

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by A. Grandis

You can get a Copperband. It's a hit and miss.
Some of them will eat all the visible aiptasia and then they go for the zoas.
Good luck!

Grandis.

Very True.

For that Reason I Do Not Recommend them

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by SUPAkg

Thanks for the tips and nice looking stuff

Your Welcome

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by Grimreaperz

Then why are you here???

We tend to come to these forums for ppl that care and want to give unbiased advice
Not arrogant know it alls. that think there way is the only way.

What Happened?

So Much Fighting Going On.

I was Gone for a Couple Months but Didn't Expect to Come Back to This

[Grimreaperz]

Originally Posted by that Fish Guy

What Happened?

So Much Fighting Going On.

I was Gone for a Couple Months but Didn't Expect to Come Back to This

Nothing of importance. Just trying to advocate for unbiased suggestions instead of condescension and arrogance.

As a beginner it is unbiased constructive criticism and advice we come to these forums for.

I see it all to often in these forums people just saying things to say them with no actual suggestions or solutions just saying it to say it. It really frustrates me as a beginner reading through forums trying to learn and you always get that 1 person who has no real value to contribute just a bunch of arrogance and condescension because that how they did it 10yrs ago. And can't accept their may be new or different ways of doing the same thing now.

I did love the write up though how are the Zoas doing? Any update pics?

Sorry for the rant.

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[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by Grimreaperz

Nothing of importance. Just trying to advocate for unbiased suggestions instead of condescension and arrogance.

As a beginner it is unbiased constructive criticism and advice we come to these forums for.

I see it all to often in these forums people just saying things to say them with no actual suggestions or solutions just saying it to say it. It really frustrates me as a beginner reading through forums trying to learn and you always get that 1 person who has no real value to contribute just a bunch of arrogance and condescension because that how they did it 10yrs ago. And can't accept their may be new or different ways of doing the same thing now.

I did love the write up though how are the Zoas doing? Any update pics?

Sorry for the rant.

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Thanks

I am glad that you liked it.

No Update Pics Right Now.

I am Very Very Busy.

It is Frag Swap Season

The Busiest Time of the Year for Frag Swaps.

That is Why I have not been Posting Much Lately