6 Simple Tips for Keeping Zoanthids Happy, Healthy, and Growing Fast

[Grimreaperz]

Originally Posted by that Fish Guy

Thanks

I am glad that you liked it.

No Update Pics Right Now.

I am Very Very Busy.

It is Frag Swap Season

The Busiest Time of the Year for Frag Swaps.

That is Why I have not been Posting Much Lately

Yeah I wish I was in an area with frag swaps. Scene isn't too big in my area.

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[A. Grandis]

I think I should share this article with you guys...
Just found it from another source:

http://www.*********.com/ams/are-led...ght-source.42/

Substitute the * for "Reef 2 reef" altogether...

Perhaps it will open our eyes...
I comment on that article and sent a link to a thread too...

http://www.*********.com/threads/ras...2#post-3212914

Have fun!
Aloha,
Grandis.

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by Grimreaperz

Yeah I wish I was in an area with frag swaps. Scene isn't too big in my area.

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Where do you Live?

[Grimreaperz]

Originally Posted by that Fish Guy

Where do you Live?

Bc Canada in a place called Chilliwack.
There is maybe 1 other guy in town. I need to drive 1.5 hrs (Vancouver) for any decent saltwater stores. In van there are a lot of ppl but long drive.

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[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by Grimreaperz

Bc Canada in a place called Chilliwack.
There is maybe 1 other guy in town. I need to drive 1.5 hrs (Vancouver) for any decent saltwater stores. In van there are a lot of ppl but long drive.

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If you were in the USA I was going to look up Frag Swaps Near You but I have No Clue about any Frag Swaps Outside of the U.S.

Sorry about that.

[homerclease]

Beautiful!

[ADAMMP]

Very nice. Great read thanks for posting.

[xxmindgamesxx]

Hello,
2 weeks ago i bought 2 colonies of zoas. 1 with 6 heads and the ither with 13 or so. I noticed yesterday that they are bleaching. White spots scattered around the middle of the polyp, i really dont want my first coral to die... Can you please help me?

And do you recommend that I feed them frozen cubes of shrimp?

My tank is about 9 gal, 2.5k of live rock, 1 true sebae clown and a 2cm slug. I also currently have a green (not hair) algae out break. Could that be a reason for their bleaching?

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[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by homerclease

Beautiful!

Thanks

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by ADAMMP

Very nice. Great read thanks for posting.

Your Welcome

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by xxmindgamesxx

Hello,
2 weeks ago i bought 2 colonies of zoas. 1 with 6 heads and the ither with 13 or so. I noticed yesterday that they are bleaching. White spots scattered around the middle of the polyp, i really dont want my first coral to die... Can you please help me?

And do you recommend that I feed them frozen cubes of shrimp?

My tank is about 9 gal, 2.5k of live rock, 1 true sebae clown and a 2cm slug. I also currently have a green (not hair) algae out break. Could that be a reason for their bleaching?

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If they are Bleaching then They are Probably Getting Too Much Light. What Lights are You Using?

Zoanthids are Not Going to Eat Shrimp as It is Too Big. I Would Feed Them Reef Roids.

I Would Get More Live Rock as 2.5 Pounds is Not Much.

Do You Have a Picture?

Any Spots on the Stalk or Just on the Polyps?

[xxmindgamesxx]

Originally Posted by that Fish Guy

If they are Bleaching then They are Probably Getting Too Much Light. What Lights are You Using?

Zoanthids are Not Going to Eat Shrimp as It is Too Big. I Would Feed Them Reef Roids.

I Would Get More Live Rock as 2.5 Pounds is Not Much.

Do You Have a Picture?

Any Spots on the Stalk or Just on the Polyps?

2.5 kgs of live rock or about 5 pounds.

I have a 20w led panel. 3 blue lights bulbs and 3 white bulbs. Its one of those that can be fixed onto the tank and they hang over the water with like 5 inches. Its originaly 27w with 9 bulbs, 6 white and 3 blue. But i turned off 3 whites because it was just too strong.

And yeah ill post a pic of the bleaching. The bleaching is not on the talks, onlt the heads. As you will see in the pics some have turned brown, some got white spots. They are originally green.

I have read that zoas do eat the frozen small cubes of brine shrimp, after i melt it in tank water of course.. Are you sure they dont eat that kinda thing?







THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HELP ME !!

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[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by xxmindgamesxx

2.5 kgs of live rock or about 5 pounds.

I have a 20w led panel. 3 blue lights bulbs and 3 white bulbs. Its one of those that can be fixed onto the tank and they hang over the water with like 5 inches. Its originaly 27w with 9 bulbs, 6 white and 3 blue. But i turned off 3 whites because it was just too strong.

And yeah ill post a pic of the bleaching. The bleaching is not on the talks, onlt the heads. As you will see in the pics some have turned brown, some got white spots. They are originally green.

I have read that zoas do eat the frozen small cubes of brine shrimp, after i melt it in tank water of course.. Are you sure they dont eat that kinda thing?







THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HELP ME !!

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Those Might eat it.

Traditional Zoa's Won't Eat Stuff Like that but Proto-Paly's Will.

That Looks like it Could Be a Proto-Paly so Give it a Try.

[xxmindgamesxx]

Originally Posted by that Fish Guy

Those Might eat it.

Traditional Zoa's Won't Eat Stuff Like that but Proto-Paly's Will.

That Looks like it Could Be a Proto-Paly so Give it a Try.

What about the bleaching?

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[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by xxmindgamesxx

What about the bleaching?

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Put it in Lower Light if you feel that it has been Bleaching.

[y4ngel]

Great info, you like Bayer better than coralrx?

[WillisT]

Great thread

[gonewild34]

I am starting an all zoas tank what is the best clean up crew to have In This tank
Thankx

[McSnackyz]

Originally Posted by that Fish Guy

Your Welcome

Bayer Dip is a Dip in Bayer Insecticide (Lowe's, Home Depot, Walmart. etc).

There are a few Types (Get Soil and Turf).

I posted a Picture Below of the Bayer you want to use.

It is the Least Stressful Dip for Coral as well as the Most Effective Dip against Coral Pests (Nudibranches, Red Bugs, AEFW, etc.)

There are Different Recipes.

I Do

1 Gallon Saltwater
4 Ounces Bayer

15 Minutes

I have a Powerhead in there (Koralia 240) for Movement
I also use a Turkey Baster

Then Rinse in Saltwater.

Then I inspect for Eggs with a High Powered LED Magnifying Glass that is Used by Coin Collectors.

Remember NO Dip Kills Eggs even though some Advertise that they do.

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Question please.. Is there any corals that you DO NOT want to dip in this? Also do you do regular dips, or just once before entry in the aquarium?

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by y4ngel

Great info, you like Bayer better than coralrx?

OMG Yes!!!!!

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by WillisT

Great thread

Thank You

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by gonewild34

I am starting an all zoas tank what is the best clean up crew to have In This tank
Thankx

Tiger Trochus Snails

[SIR PATRICK]

Originally Posted by that Fish Guy

I have Talked To and Read About quite a few People who have been Having Trouble Keeping Zoanthids so I decided to Make this Thread to Help them Out.



Here are My Tips for Happy, Healthy, and Fast Growing Zoanthids.


2.Keep Everything Stable -

For Me
Temperature - 77 Degrees
Salinity - 1.026
Alkalinity - 8.5
Calcium - 480
Magnesium - 1440

- Test, Test, Test (I cannot Stress this Enough).
- I Test and Dose Every Day on 6 Tanks (2 of the Tanks I Test and Dose Twice a Day - Once in the Morning and Once at Night).
- My Alkalinity Does not Drop more than 0.3 a Day.
- Remember Alkalinity is Depleted more than anything Else in a Reef Tank and is the Most Important thing to Keep Stable which is Why I Test So Much.




3. Feed, Feed, Feed -

- Don't Listen to anybody that says you should have Zero Nitrate and Zero Phosphate with Zoanthids.
- They LOVE Food!
- I feed 3 Times a Week.

Tuesday -

1. Reef Roids
2 BRS Reef Chili
3. Seachem AquaVitro Fuel Vitamin and Ammino Acid Supplement

I mix all 3 Together in some Tank Water

Friday -

1. Reef Roids
2 BRS Reef Chili
3. Seachem AquaVitro Fuel Vitamin and Ammino Acid Supplement

I mix all 3 Together in some Tank Water

Sunday -

1. Larry's Reef Frenzy Frozen Food (LRS)

LRS is more for my Acans and Chalices which I Target Feed after Chopping it Up Fine with a Razor Blade but there are Fine Particle Coral Foods in LRS that the Zoanthids can Use.



Hopefully these Tips will Help Some People Out that are Having Issues Keeping Zoanthids

Very nice collaboration of info here, much of it I plan on implementing in my current tank, but-

I have questions on testing and feeding.

What are your test results on PO4 and NO3 and on your tanks?

What equipment or techniques do you use for nutrient export and filtration?

These are the 2 main issues you must find a balance for to maintain good growth as well as superior appearance.

What levels are you maintaining, and what levels of each is too high, or maybe too low to keep appearance, and respectively growth, the best in your system? What are the testable parameters that make the "happy spot" in your tanks? And with your feedings what do you do to maintain that happy spot?

I have never bothered to test so extensively, and would really appreciate being able to read and learn from your findings.

[SIR PATRICK]

Originally Posted by that Fish Guy

Here are My Tips for Happy, Healthy, and Fast Growing Zoanthids.

1. Bayer Dip

2.[B][U]Kee2. Keep Everything Stable
3. Feed, Feed, Feed
4. Higher Light and Higher Flow (Generally Speaking)
5. Keep an Eye Out for POX
6. Do Regular Water Changes
7. Don't Buy Animals that Might Go After Zoanthids





1. Bayer Dip -

- No Coral (And I mean no Coral) goes into my Tank without an Aggressive Bayer Dip for 15 Minutes.
- Then I check for Eggs with a High Powered Magnifying Glass with a Built in LED Light Used by Coin Collectors.
- Bayer Kills the Pests but Does NOT Kill the Eggs.
- Zoanthids are Targeted by More Pests than any Other Coral (Nudibranches, Spiders, Sundial Snails, etc.)

I have heard great results with the Bayer method, but have also heard bad results using this strong insecticide unprotected to humans. Do you use this product bare handed? Ventilated? What safety precautions do you use to perform this dip and which do you not? This information should be shared in the fist post, for any future zoa grower to be aware of in the future. I am just imagining people over the continent following your instructions, without reading the most important ones, on the handling and active ingredients lable on the bayer container, which have little to do with this procedure besides safety.

Just trying to help you get this great write up some info that could be added to make it even better and safer.

[that Fish Guy]

Originally Posted by SIR PATRICK

Very nice collaboration of info here, much of it I plan on implementing in my current tank, but-

I have questions on testing and feeding.

What are your test results on PO4 and NO3 and on your tanks?

What equipment or techniques do you use for nutrient export and filtration?

These are the 2 main issues you must find a balance for to maintain good growth as well as superior appearance.

What levels are you maintaining, and what levels of each is too high, or maybe too low to keep appearance, and respectively growth, the best in your system? What are the testable parameters that make the "happy spot" in your tanks? And with your feedings what do you do to maintain that happy spot?

I have never bothered to test so extensively, and would really appreciate being able to read and learn from your findings.

Thank You Chris

Nitrate Varies depending on the Tank but is anywhere from 5 to 20

I never Test Phosphate

For Nutrient Export I just do Very Large Water Changes (Over 60 Percent).

No Skimmer
No GFO

Alkalinity - 8.5
Calcium - 480
Magnesium - 1440

I Probably wouldn't want Nitrate To Far Above 20 but I Hear WWC keeps theirs at around 40

Mine never goes past 20 so I don't know what "too high" would be.

They seem to be happiest during feeding.

If I do not feed corals do not seem as "Happy"