400 gallon glass tank build - Page 4

wakesurfdan · 03/20/2011, 05:20 PM

Thanks I will try tonight

kayaking2 · 03/20/2011, 07:19 PM

Excellent build thread. Nice you could build this yourself. I'm having 190G 8' long built...1500.00 with starfire only on front.
I can't wait to see it completed

wakesurfdan · 03/20/2011, 08:23 PM

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Nate R · 03/20/2011, 09:23 PM

awesome job.

wakesurfdan · 03/20/2011, 10:25 PM

Thanks to everybody for all the positive feedback!

kcress · 03/20/2011, 11:54 PM

So since there was no mention of getting it, "into the house", is this going to be a garage-through wall?

Nice build!

wakesurfdan · 03/21/2011, 06:16 AM

Thanks, no it will not be a through wall tank, it will be free standing against the wall in my formal dining room. We will put the tank on the stand then using industrial dollies wheel it through the front door. I have 1" clearance for it to fit, that is why I made it 33" wide and not 36".

Doug864 · 03/21/2011, 08:26 AM

Nice build, real clean looking. One question, the overflow boxes look low, are you planning on running a good sized wave?
Regards,
Doug

wakesurfdan · 03/21/2011, 09:24 AM

Overflow boxes will have a black PVC cover that will go to top of tank

wakesurfdan · 03/21/2011, 05:14 PM

Ok everybody I need some cosmetic opinions!
The tank will have a 1-1/2" wide by 1/4" thick trim around the top rim and base of the tank similar to my tank I have in my profile pic. I can't decide weather to use textured abs plastic or smooth black acrylic. ANY OPINIONS?
I'm leaning towards smooth acrylic. I thought the textured abs would make it look cheap.

wakesurfdan · 03/21/2011, 05:35 PM

To get the whole picture the stand will have black beveled glass panels that will attach magnetically to the stand giving me complete acsess to the sump. And the light hood will also be black 9 ft long suspended from th ceiling with a remote motor to raise and lower

wakesurfdan · 03/21/2011, 06:39 PM

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Crooke · 03/21/2011, 06:46 PM

Why use a trim at all? The work is fantastic, even the bracing looks good. I'd leave it unobstructed just so I could admire the work.

That said, my preference would be a non-flat material for any trim. Flat black acrylic will highlight any blemish and require frequent polishing.

wakesurfdan · 03/21/2011, 06:51 PM

Thanks, I'm quite the perfectionist this is the 1st tank I have built and I wanted to do it right. , The reason for the trim is because I dont like seeing water lines and also to go with other tanks I have in the house. Also I don't like the looks of a sit on top hood which is usually used to cover water line.

kcress · 03/21/2011, 10:09 PM

I would tend to use non-rough plastic too. I have large black surrounds on my tank that are black acrylic. They scratch just from wiping salt off of them! Which makes me think textured might be better.. Of course salt could get into the texture and cause white stains.

Since everything else is smooth shiny glossy I'd use glossy.

So you are putting it in the house! You're talking about 2 and a half tons. I hope you're going to add some under-house support.

wakesurfdan · 03/21/2011, 10:28 PM

Yes its going in the house my house has a slab foundation 12" thick so i should be fine. Total weight filled and stocked should be around 5500 lbs to 6000 lbs

kcress · 03/22/2011, 04:55 AM

Ah.. Most excellent.

You're going to wait how long before filling it?

Are you going to test it in the garage or throw the dice in the house?

alpinestar · 03/22/2011, 05:33 AM

Wow great build wish I had the courage to build my own but doubt it would ever happen on anything a shopvac couldn't handle. Following this can't wait to see it wet

wakesurfdan · 03/22/2011, 06:24 AM

The last bracing will be installed on Thursday so from then I will wait three weeks before water test in the garage. I just purchased all the acrylic for my sump and should be starting fabrication someone this weekend. I still need to finalize my design for the sump. Pretty sure it will have 4 filter socks, two on each end to accommodate the 4 drains. Dimensions will be 27" wide 72" long and 22-24" tall all made from 1/2" cell cast. The sump will be under the tank and the protein skimmer and return pumps will be in the garage behind the wall where the tank will be.

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wakesurfdan Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sacramento Ca. Posts: 462	Thanks I will try tonight

03/20/2011, 07:19 PM	#77
kayaking2 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 174	Excellent build thread. Nice you could build this yourself. I'm having 190G 8' long built...1500.00 with starfire only on front. I can't wait to see it completed

03/20/2011, 08:34 PM	#83
wakesurfdan Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sacramento Ca. Posts: 462	DOGFISH [IMG][/IMG]

03/20/2011, 09:23 PM	#84
Nate R Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Yakima WA Posts: 112	awesome job. __________________ ________________ Nate 170gal system SPS Collector

03/20/2011, 10:25 PM	#85
wakesurfdan Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sacramento Ca. Posts: 462	Thanks to everybody for all the positive feedback!

03/20/2011, 11:54 PM	#86
kcress Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Central California Coast. Posts: 5,383	So since there was no mention of getting it, "into the house", is this going to be a garage-through wall? Nice build!

03/21/2011, 06:16 AM	#87
wakesurfdan Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sacramento Ca. Posts: 462	Thanks, no it will not be a through wall tank, it will be free standing against the wall in my formal dining room. We will put the tank on the stand then using industrial dollies wheel it through the front door. I have 1" clearance for it to fit, that is why I made it 33" wide and not 36". Last edited by wakesurfdan; 03/21/2011 at 07:07 AM.

03/21/2011, 08:26 AM	#88
Doug864 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: FL Posts: 631	Nice build, real clean looking. One question, the overflow boxes look low, are you planning on running a good sized wave? Regards, Doug

03/21/2011, 09:24 AM	#89
wakesurfdan Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sacramento Ca. Posts: 462	Overflow boxes will have a black PVC cover that will go to top of tank

03/21/2011, 05:14 PM	#90
wakesurfdan Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sacramento Ca. Posts: 462	Ok everybody I need some cosmetic opinions! The tank will have a 1-1/2" wide by 1/4" thick trim around the top rim and base of the tank similar to my tank I have in my profile pic. I can't decide weather to use textured abs plastic or smooth black acrylic. ANY OPINIONS? I'm leaning towards smooth acrylic. I thought the textured abs would make it look cheap.

03/21/2011, 05:35 PM	#91
wakesurfdan Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sacramento Ca. Posts: 462	To get the whole picture the stand will have black beveled glass panels that will attach magnetically to the stand giving me complete acsess to the sump. And the light hood will also be black 9 ft long suspended from th ceiling with a remote motor to raise and lower

03/21/2011, 06:39 PM	#92
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03/21/2011, 06:46 PM	#94
Crooke Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 106	Why use a trim at all? The work is fantastic, even the bracing looks good. I'd leave it unobstructed just so I could admire the work. That said, my preference would be a non-flat material for any trim. Flat black acrylic will highlight any blemish and require frequent polishing.

03/21/2011, 06:51 PM	#95
wakesurfdan Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sacramento Ca. Posts: 462	Thanks, I'm quite the perfectionist this is the 1st tank I have built and I wanted to do it right. , The reason for the trim is because I dont like seeing water lines and also to go with other tanks I have in the house. Also I don't like the looks of a sit on top hood which is usually used to cover water line. Last edited by wakesurfdan; 03/21/2011 at 06:57 PM.

03/21/2011, 10:09 PM	#96
kcress Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Central California Coast. Posts: 5,383	I would tend to use non-rough plastic too. I have large black surrounds on my tank that are black acrylic. They scratch just from wiping salt off of them! Which makes me think textured might be better.. Of course salt could get into the texture and cause white stains. Since everything else is smooth shiny glossy I'd use glossy. So you are putting it in the house! You're talking about 2 and a half tons. I hope you're going to add some under-house support.

03/21/2011, 10:28 PM	#97
wakesurfdan Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sacramento Ca. Posts: 462	Yes its going in the house my house has a slab foundation 12" thick so i should be fine. Total weight filled and stocked should be around 5500 lbs to 6000 lbs

03/22/2011, 04:55 AM	#98
kcress Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Central California Coast. Posts: 5,383	Ah.. Most excellent. You're going to wait how long before filling it? Are you going to test it in the garage or throw the dice in the house?

03/22/2011, 05:33 AM	#99
alpinestar Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 211	Wow great build wish I had the courage to build my own but doubt it would ever happen on anything a shopvac couldn't handle. Following this can't wait to see it wet

03/22/2011, 06:24 AM	#100
wakesurfdan Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sacramento Ca. Posts: 462	The last bracing will be installed on Thursday so from then I will wait three weeks before water test in the garage. I just purchased all the acrylic for my sump and should be starting fabrication someone this weekend. I still need to finalize my design for the sump. Pretty sure it will have 4 filter socks, two on each end to accommodate the 4 drains. Dimensions will be 27" wide 72" long and 22-24" tall all made from 1/2" cell cast. The sump will be under the tank and the protein skimmer and return pumps will be in the garage behind the wall where the tank will be.

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