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Old 06/14/2018, 02:04 PM   #26
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I feed a lot because of my 20 anthias. The tangs just benefit because they are pigs


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Old 06/14/2018, 02:49 PM   #27
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standard 120g, I have only one tang, a lavendar, which is so happy and peaceful I would prefer to not mess that up by adding another tang.


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Old 06/14/2018, 04:01 PM   #28
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So it seeks feeding tangs is the key. Guess since they graze a day a hunger tang can be a moody tang


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They definitely can eat a lot, and they produce a lot of waste. Anecdotal evidence seems to show that feeding a lot helps with aggression. But that's only part of it. Most people that keep more than one have large tanks (180-600+). There are other factors that I've seen discussed, like adding them together when juveniles, specific rockwork patterns and rearranging said rock, mirrors, acclimation boxes ect.

I'm leaning toward bill and dave's approach for my tank.

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Standard 120DT with a single Tomini. Maybe 8 other smallish reef fish to keep it company including a African Flameback Angel who was there first. About a week of sorting out the pecking order. Now, several years later all are fine.
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standard 120g, I have only one tang, a lavendar, which is so happy and peaceful I would prefer to not mess that up by adding another tang.



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Old 06/14/2018, 04:51 PM   #29
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Man you guys have some big tanks..

Mine is 90 gallon 1 yellow tang


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Old 06/14/2018, 05:28 PM   #30
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150 gallon, not the short one the long one, 3 yellow tangs and a pallete surgeon (Paracanthurus hepatus). The pallete surgeon was the first in and the trio of yellows was way after. I got them from a hobbyist who grew them up together from when they were tiny, the only time any of them get ornery is near lights out when they are competing for the best sleeping spots. The pallete rules the roost though.
Did you get those three yellows recently? Like last 6 months or so?

I know a guy who had three for sale an hour or so away from me... I got a long nose hawkish off of him... plus your screen name is "Eastlake" so I'm just randomly guessing your from Ohio as well..

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Old 06/14/2018, 06:10 PM   #31
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I had 4 yellow and 2 baby mata tangs in an 80 rimless with no rocks just frag racks and they never fought. So not sure if rockeork matters. They where babies and all added together


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Old 06/15/2018, 06:20 AM   #32
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Did you get those three yellows recently? Like last 6 months or so?

I know a guy who had three for sale an hour or so away from me... I got a long nose hawkish off of him... plus your screen name is "Eastlake" so I'm just randomly guessing your from Ohio as well..

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Was the fellow from Medina, like just across the Medina line? If so then I am the person who bought those yellow tangs and yep I am an Ohioan


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Old 06/15/2018, 06:38 AM   #33
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500 gallon system, 6 Yellow Tangs, 1 Regal Tang, 1 Achilles Tang, 1 Sailfin Tang.
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Old 06/15/2018, 07:15 AM   #34
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You guys have some wonderful tanks. I would love to have a much larger tank but I don't have the room for anything much bigger than I have now. So jealous...


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Old 06/15/2018, 08:05 AM   #35
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I am having a new tank built 60”x36”x24”, about 240’ish gallons. I’m think at least one tang, maybe 3. I’ve heard keeping odd numbers of tangs help; maybe that’s a myth I’m not sure.


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Old 06/15/2018, 09:23 AM   #36
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I don't know where the odd/even theories started, but I'm pretty sure fish can't count, so I don't buy into that at all.

Swim space is the issue w/ tangs, in a 240g you could easily have a group of tangs somewhat peacefully depending on species


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Old 06/15/2018, 10:46 AM   #37
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Was the fellow from Medina, like just across the Medina line? If so then I am the person who bought those yellow tangs and yep I am an Ohioan
This guy was from Cleveland area..i think parma.. I got 3 black box leds and my hawk and a pink acan from him.. he had a 180 gall for sale..and a crap load of frags..
He tried like he'll to sell my the 3 yellow tangs.. even though I told him I had a scopas and a purple in a 90..
I wanted those 3 so bad..but I couldn't risk it in my 90..

I am from the Sandusky area..but always find myself driving to Cleveland to buy things from people on here..

Actually plan on going to vermilion today to the salty critter.. awesome little saltwater shop

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Old 06/21/2018, 02:39 AM   #38
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I have a 65g Red Sea Reefer 250 and one Yellow Tang (Carol) amongst my 8 fish. She seems very happy, sticks her snout into every part of the tank and gets along well with everyone else including the Inverts. I plan to keep an eye on her in years to come in case she outgrows the tank and if needed re-home her. Only if I feel she is looking stressed however.


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Old 06/21/2018, 05:07 AM   #39
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HAD a sailfin, kole, yellow, and naso. Velvet killed them all. :-( Now I have a yellow.


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Old 06/22/2018, 08:30 PM   #40
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I have a yellow, purple and hippo in a 190, 60x27x27. The yellow runs the tank... for now until the purple grows up.


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Old 06/24/2018, 11:57 AM   #41
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I don't know where the odd/even theories started, but I'm pretty sure fish can't count, so I don't buy into that at all.

Swim space is the issue w/ tangs, in a 240g you could easily have a group of tangs somewhat peacefully depending on species
I agree the even/odd rule of thumb is pretty much bogus as each individual fish's temperment trumps the number of fish. I have to disagree with the notion fish cant count though. Even the lowly mosquito fish can count to at least four (1, 2, 3, 4, then lots).
https://link.springer.com/article/10...071-008-0140-9
Research is showing fish are much smarter than we've belived them to be, some fish scoring as well as primates on some types of intellegence tests.


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Old 06/24/2018, 12:07 PM   #42
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I agree the even/odd rule of thumb is pretty much bogus as each individual fish's temperment trumps the number of fish. I have to disagree with the notion fish cant count though. Even the lowly mosquito fish can count to at least four (1, 2, 3, 4, then lots).
https://link.springer.com/article/10...071-008-0140-9
Research is showing fish are much smarter than we've belived them to be, some fish scoring as well as primates on some types of intellegence tests.
If I'm reading this correctly, this shows a female mosquito fish chose to join the larger shoal, which would make sense to me, bigger shoal, greater safety among greater numbers.

While I agree some fish are smarter than others or what some give credit to, I don't think that proves they are counting exactly, nor that odd or even or a certain number leads to greater chance of success or failure based on a certain number of fish.


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Old 06/24/2018, 12:10 PM   #43
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If I'm reading this correctly, this shows a female mosquito fish chose to join the larger shoal, which would make sense to me, bigger shoal, greater safety among greater numbers.



While I agree some fish are smarter than others or what some give credit to, I don't think that proves they are counting exactly, nor that odd or even or a certain number leads to greater chance of success or failure based on a certain number of fish.


Think we all agree odds even is nonsense.


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Old 06/25/2018, 09:17 AM   #44
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Standard 180 gallon tank (72x24x24)
3 Yellow tangs
1 Pacific Blue tang
1 Tomini tang

I wanted to keep an Acanthurus species as well but have decided my tank is probably at capacity. I have 22 fish total- mostly small fish gobies, blennies, wrasses, chromis, and clowns.






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