Mangrove tank - Page 2

saltwater sam · 05/28/2014, 06:38 PM

Ebay usually has some.

Whiterabbitrage · 05/28/2014, 09:00 PM

This is so cool. Wish I had the room! What do you use for lighting? Your plants look great.

saltwater sam · 05/28/2014, 11:30 PM

I'm using 4 14 watt Par 30 LED bulbs. 5000-6000k

saltwater sam · 05/29/2014, 05:17 PM

update on younger red's first branched developing

saltwater sam · 05/29/2014, 06:54 PM

macros, true percula, canary fangblenny

saltwater sam · 05/30/2014, 09:26 PM

Red Grape Algae

rbla51 · 05/31/2014, 12:15 PM

at some point, wont they get to big to mantain ?

saltwater sam · 05/31/2014, 12:58 PM

No, that's what pruning is for. Bonsai techniques keep them small and manageable (and aesthetically pleasing!)

Whiterabbitrage · 05/31/2014, 02:26 PM

This would be so great in a greenhouse. Can you imagine a six foot in ground pool with a six foot mangrove growing on one side? Would that work? If you grew one in a greenhouse what problems would be run into?

saltwater sam · 05/31/2014, 02:34 PM

Greenhouses work great, that's a dream of mine to have one one day. I am a botanist, I'm actually a senior in college right now studying plant biology and I work in a greenhouse. Greenhouses are the perfect combination of outdoor and indoor conditions. Hopefully one day I'll be able to let my trees grow to bigger sizes.
On another note, I sent my clumsy hermit crab to crab prison (LFS) and got some new crustaceans that are a bit lighter on their feet!

rbla51 · 06/01/2014, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saltwater sam

No, that's what pruning is for. Bonsai techniques keep them small and manageable (and aesthetically pleasing!)

ah, so you have to trim the roots, so the pots are a must have

saltwater sam · 06/01/2014, 12:43 PM

Pots aren't necessarily a must have, but I would definitely recommend them.

saltwater sam · 06/01/2014, 03:28 PM

Here's the wiring that I did on my older mangrove.

This is before I wired, you can see that the two smallest branches connected to the main branch are growing into the leaves of the main branch

I opted to wire these branches and bend them in directions away from the main stem

Here's what the plant looks like now, several weeks later

saltwater sam · 06/02/2014, 10:32 PM

Here's a couple shots of the growing macro forest

If you look closely, you can see the sexy anemone shrimp in the front and the peppermint shrimp in the background. The peppermint dwarfs the sexys!

Whiterabbitrage · 06/03/2014, 07:35 PM

This is so gorgeous.

saltwater sam · 06/03/2014, 09:07 PM

Thank you Whiterabbitrage!!

saltwater sam · 06/09/2014, 05:24 PM

New branches fully opened

And... What I believe is the beginning of the first prop root on my mangrove! I will update in a couple days, it seems to be growing pretty fast. Sorry that the pic isn't the best.

saltwater sam · 06/12/2014, 04:54 PM

My caulpera meadow, one of my blue reef chromis, true percula, peppermint shrimp

saltwater sam · 06/22/2014, 07:21 PM

Chromis getting cleaned by skunk shrimp! It's their favorite thing to do!

I added some very nice pieces of live rock and rearranged some of my red macros

Black mangrove preparing to shed propagule leaves. Can also see the chromis getting cleaned in the water!

Full tank shot

100%hydrophylic · 06/22/2014, 07:48 PM

You have a lot of macros and it looks like not a large bioload. Do you have to add any nutrient supplements to your system?

This is really cool. Im getting more and more interested in marine plants and macro algae and i really would like to add some to my mixed reef. Where did you get your macros?

saltwater sam · 06/22/2014, 08:02 PM

Thanks 100%hydrophylic! The bioload is pretty sufficient for the tank! I only run a carbon filter, no skimmer or anything else. The macros do the heavy lifting. Let me throw up a list of what I have in here since I'm not sure if I have an up to date one on here.
Fish
2 large reef chromis
True Percula
Inverts
2 bonded skunk cleaner shrimp
2 bonded sexy anemone shrimp
1 badas* peppermint shrimp- this guy is a beast
Tons and tons of microfauna- 2 species of micro stars, amphipods, copepods, tube worms, etc. etc.
Plants/macroalgae
2 Red mangroves
1 Black mangrove
Caulpera prolifera
Caulpera mexicana
Caulpera sertulariodes
Red grape Botryocladia
Bryothamnion
Cryptonemia?
a couple other red macros I'm not positive on id

I got all my macros from live-plants.com, they are awesome

100%hydrophylic · 06/22/2014, 09:43 PM

i was thinking about ordering from live-plants.com and getting some mangroves from ebay. I was thinking about getting the red sampler and caulerpa sampler, and maybe a couple species i want specifically.

Are you happy with live-plants? Was the algae relatively pest free and healthy size clumps?

saltwater sam · 06/22/2014, 09:50 PM

I was 100% satisfied, they were pest free, healthy, and very generously sized. I got the samplers, they give you a ton of algae.

G_Sanab922 · 06/22/2014, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 100%hydrophylic

i was thinking about ordering from live-plants.com and getting some mangroves from ebay. I was thinking about getting the red sampler and caulerpa sampler, and maybe a couple species i want specifically.

Are you happy with live-plants? Was the algae relatively pest free and healthy size clumps?

I'll send you some mangroves if you want. Have TONS in my backyard. Only reds though

100%hydrophylic · 06/22/2014, 10:32 PM

G_Sanab922 I messaged you

05/28/2014, 06:38 PM	#26
saltwater sam Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 553	Ebay usually has some. __________________ It's not too much to brag about if your fish can eat someone else's fish, but if your fish can eat somebody's dog, now thats an accomplishment! Current Tank Info: 40 gallon SW mangrove/macro planted tank

05/28/2014, 09:00 PM	#27
Whiterabbitrage Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,338 Blog Entries: 1	This is so cool. Wish I had the room! What do you use for lighting? Your plants look great. __________________ ~Morgan Current Tank Info: 150 gall, 30 gall sump; 30 gall refugium

05/28/2014, 11:30 PM	#28
saltwater sam Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 553	I'm using 4 14 watt Par 30 LED bulbs. 5000-6000k __________________ It's not too much to brag about if your fish can eat someone else's fish, but if your fish can eat somebody's dog, now thats an accomplishment! Current Tank Info: 40 gallon SW mangrove/macro planted tank

05/29/2014, 05:17 PM	#29
saltwater sam Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 553	update on younger red's first branched developing __________________ It's not too much to brag about if your fish can eat someone else's fish, but if your fish can eat somebody's dog, now thats an accomplishment! Current Tank Info: 40 gallon SW mangrove/macro planted tank

05/29/2014, 06:54 PM	#30
saltwater sam Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 553	macros, true percula, canary fangblenny __________________ It's not too much to brag about if your fish can eat someone else's fish, but if your fish can eat somebody's dog, now thats an accomplishment! Current Tank Info: 40 gallon SW mangrove/macro planted tank

05/30/2014, 09:26 PM	#31
saltwater sam Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 553	Red Grape Algae __________________ It's not too much to brag about if your fish can eat someone else's fish, but if your fish can eat somebody's dog, now thats an accomplishment! Current Tank Info: 40 gallon SW mangrove/macro planted tank

05/31/2014, 12:15 PM	#32
rbla51 Registered Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 80	at some point, wont they get to big to mantain ?

05/31/2014, 12:58 PM	#33
saltwater sam Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 553	No, that's what pruning is for. Bonsai techniques keep them small and manageable (and aesthetically pleasing!) __________________ It's not too much to brag about if your fish can eat someone else's fish, but if your fish can eat somebody's dog, now thats an accomplishment! Current Tank Info: 40 gallon SW mangrove/macro planted tank

05/31/2014, 02:26 PM	#34
Whiterabbitrage Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,338 Blog Entries: 1	This would be so great in a greenhouse. Can you imagine a six foot in ground pool with a six foot mangrove growing on one side? Would that work? If you grew one in a greenhouse what problems would be run into? __________________ ~Morgan Current Tank Info: 150 gall, 30 gall sump; 30 gall refugium

05/31/2014, 02:34 PM	#35
saltwater sam Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 553	Greenhouses work great, that's a dream of mine to have one one day. I am a botanist, I'm actually a senior in college right now studying plant biology and I work in a greenhouse. Greenhouses are the perfect combination of outdoor and indoor conditions. Hopefully one day I'll be able to let my trees grow to bigger sizes. On another note, I sent my clumsy hermit crab to crab prison (LFS) and got some new crustaceans that are a bit lighter on their feet! __________________ It's not too much to brag about if your fish can eat someone else's fish, but if your fish can eat somebody's dog, now thats an accomplishment! Current Tank Info: 40 gallon SW mangrove/macro planted tank

06/01/2014, 12:43 PM	#37
saltwater sam Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 553	Pots aren't necessarily a must have, but I would definitely recommend them. __________________ It's not too much to brag about if your fish can eat someone else's fish, but if your fish can eat somebody's dog, now thats an accomplishment! Current Tank Info: 40 gallon SW mangrove/macro planted tank

06/01/2014, 03:28 PM	#38
saltwater sam Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 553	Here's the wiring that I did on my older mangrove. This is before I wired, you can see that the two smallest branches connected to the main branch are growing into the leaves of the main branch I opted to wire these branches and bend them in directions away from the main stem Here's what the plant looks like now, several weeks later __________________ It's not too much to brag about if your fish can eat someone else's fish, but if your fish can eat somebody's dog, now thats an accomplishment! Current Tank Info: 40 gallon SW mangrove/macro planted tank

06/02/2014, 10:32 PM	#39
saltwater sam Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 553	Here's a couple shots of the growing macro forest If you look closely, you can see the sexy anemone shrimp in the front and the peppermint shrimp in the background. The peppermint dwarfs the sexys! __________________ It's not too much to brag about if your fish can eat someone else's fish, but if your fish can eat somebody's dog, now thats an accomplishment! Current Tank Info: 40 gallon SW mangrove/macro planted tank

06/03/2014, 07:35 PM	#40
Whiterabbitrage Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,338 Blog Entries: 1	This is so gorgeous. __________________ ~Morgan Current Tank Info: 150 gall, 30 gall sump; 30 gall refugium

06/03/2014, 09:07 PM	#41
saltwater sam Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 553	Thank you Whiterabbitrage!! __________________ It's not too much to brag about if your fish can eat someone else's fish, but if your fish can eat somebody's dog, now thats an accomplishment! Current Tank Info: 40 gallon SW mangrove/macro planted tank

06/09/2014, 05:24 PM	#42
saltwater sam Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 553	New branches fully opened And... What I believe is the beginning of the first prop root on my mangrove! I will update in a couple days, it seems to be growing pretty fast. Sorry that the pic isn't the best. __________________ It's not too much to brag about if your fish can eat someone else's fish, but if your fish can eat somebody's dog, now thats an accomplishment! Current Tank Info: 40 gallon SW mangrove/macro planted tank

06/12/2014, 04:54 PM	#43
saltwater sam Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 553	My caulpera meadow, one of my blue reef chromis, true percula, peppermint shrimp __________________ It's not too much to brag about if your fish can eat someone else's fish, but if your fish can eat somebody's dog, now thats an accomplishment! Current Tank Info: 40 gallon SW mangrove/macro planted tank

06/22/2014, 07:21 PM	#44
saltwater sam Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 553	Chromis getting cleaned by skunk shrimp! It's their favorite thing to do! I added some very nice pieces of live rock and rearranged some of my red macros Black mangrove preparing to shed propagule leaves. Can also see the chromis getting cleaned in the water! Full tank shot __________________ It's not too much to brag about if your fish can eat someone else's fish, but if your fish can eat somebody's dog, now thats an accomplishment! Current Tank Info: 40 gallon SW mangrove/macro planted tank

06/22/2014, 07:48 PM	#45
100%hydrophylic Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: GA Posts: 1,636	You have a lot of macros and it looks like not a large bioload. Do you have to add any nutrient supplements to your system? This is really cool. Im getting more and more interested in marine plants and macro algae and i really would like to add some to my mixed reef. Where did you get your macros? __________________ :) Current Tank Info: 75g mixed reef, 28g nano SPS

06/22/2014, 08:02 PM	#46
saltwater sam Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 553	Thanks 100%hydrophylic! The bioload is pretty sufficient for the tank! I only run a carbon filter, no skimmer or anything else. The macros do the heavy lifting. Let me throw up a list of what I have in here since I'm not sure if I have an up to date one on here. Fish 2 large reef chromis True Percula Inverts 2 bonded skunk cleaner shrimp 2 bonded sexy anemone shrimp 1 badas* peppermint shrimp- this guy is a beast Tons and tons of microfauna- 2 species of micro stars, amphipods, copepods, tube worms, etc. etc. Plants/macroalgae 2 Red mangroves 1 Black mangrove Caulpera prolifera Caulpera mexicana Caulpera sertulariodes Red grape Botryocladia Bryothamnion Cryptonemia? a couple other red macros I'm not positive on id I got all my macros from live-plants.com, they are awesome __________________ It's not too much to brag about if your fish can eat someone else's fish, but if your fish can eat somebody's dog, now thats an accomplishment! Current Tank Info: 40 gallon SW mangrove/macro planted tank

06/22/2014, 09:43 PM	#47
100%hydrophylic Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: GA Posts: 1,636	i was thinking about ordering from live-plants.com and getting some mangroves from ebay. I was thinking about getting the red sampler and caulerpa sampler, and maybe a couple species i want specifically. Are you happy with live-plants? Was the algae relatively pest free and healthy size clumps? __________________ :) Current Tank Info: 75g mixed reef, 28g nano SPS

06/22/2014, 09:50 PM	#48
saltwater sam Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 553	I was 100% satisfied, they were pest free, healthy, and very generously sized. I got the samplers, they give you a ton of algae. __________________ It's not too much to brag about if your fish can eat someone else's fish, but if your fish can eat somebody's dog, now thats an accomplishment! Current Tank Info: 40 gallon SW mangrove/macro planted tank

06/22/2014, 10:32 PM	#50
100%hydrophylic Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: GA Posts: 1,636	G_Sanab922 I messaged you __________________ :) Current Tank Info: 75g mixed reef, 28g nano SPS