Reef Central Online Community

Home Forum Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences View New Posts View Today's Posts

Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Search Reefkeeping ...an online magazine for marine aquarists Support our sponsors and mention Reef Central

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > More Forums > Reef Club Forums > SouthWest Region-Reef Club Forums > Arizona - Fish & Reef Aquarium Group (FRAG)
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools
Old 04/07/2011, 12:53 AM   #1
azreefgeek
Registered Member
 
azreefgeek's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Scottsdale Arizona
Posts: 39
azreefgeek 100g Automated In-Wall Tank Build

It all started with a dream...A boys dream...A naive boy who saw the tank he had dreamed about on craigslist for $100.



Assuming it was the start of a quick and inexpensive tank build, he promptly drove to BFE for target recon and ultimately acquisition.



Upon return to the compound (remember this is my dream), a structure was quickly erected to house the magnificent tank that was acquired.



Staring at in the frame he thought, "hmm what am I missing?". That's when he woke up and realized he was in over his head...

The Goal
My goal is to create a nearly fully automated aquarium setup that can sustain it self for up to 1 month at a time with most of my interaction remote. I will accomplish this through the use of a Control4 Home automation System and a Neptune Apex Controller. I tried working with a GHL Profilux III first, but had a slew of technical issues just getting it operational. I will be writing a Control4 driver to use in conjunction with the Apex to bring real time tank stats, trigger feedings or the lights via the touch screen displays throughout my house or remotely. I have purchased the water exchange module for automating water changes an additional dosing pump for topping off RODI from my 30gal storage tanks in the laundry room.

Current Parts List:
1 x 100 Gallon Dual View Acrylic Tank with Dual Side Overflows and drilled for a Closed Loop
1 x 55 Gallon Sump / Refugium
2 x Ecoxotic 12k White 50w Canons
2 x Ecoxotic 453nm Blue 50w Canons
1 x IceCap Blue 4ft LED Moonlight Strip
1 x IceCap White 4ft LED Moonlight Strip
1 x Clip On Full Spectrum 5100K CFL PAR38 Reflector (For the Refugium)
2 x Bluline 30HD X 1,110GPH Pumps (return / closed loop)
1 x ASM G3 Skimmer with Sedra 500 Pump
1 x Bulk Reef Supply Dual Reactor
1 x Neptune Systems Apex Aquarium Controller
2 x Neptune Systems Apex EnergyBar 8
1 x Oceans Motions OM Squirt 2 Way Wave Maker
1 x Emperor Aquatics 40 Watt Smart UV Sterilizer w/ Wiper
1 x Pinpoint Calcium Monitor
1 x Finnex TH-0800 800W Titanium Heater
1 x Finnex HC810M Controller
1 x SpectraPure MaxCap UHE-100 RODI
1 x SpectraPure LiterMeter 3 Peristaltic Dosing Pump
1 x SpectraPure LiterMeter Water eXchange Module
1 x SpectraPure LiterMeter Remote Pump Module
2 x 33 Gallon Clear/Natural Drums with Removable Lids (RODI/Saltwater Storage in Laundry Room)
1 x TripLite 1500 UPS Battery Backup


Current Status
Lighting is hung, and the controller is programmed and on the network. I will be starting to plumb this weekend and then drywall after that :-)





Last edited by azreefgeek; 04/07/2011 at 01:47 AM.
azreefgeek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/07/2011, 01:48 AM   #2
crsaz
Moved On
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: phoenix
Posts: 1,363
I have 2 suggestions for you, ditch the calcium probe they are useless, they require frequent calibration. weekly or even more frequently if you plan to run it continuously. Also skip the g3, they are great little work horses but they are severely overrated, I run a g3 on my 57 gal and it just barley gets the job done. maybe look into the reef octopus xp-2000 it would be a great fit for your system.


crsaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/07/2011, 01:51 AM   #3
dublo8
Registered Member
 
dublo8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Morgan Hill, Ca
Posts: 3,123
Awesome. I like where this is going. Unfortunately your "dream sequence" style of writing cut out a little too early for my liking LOL. Looks good. Keep us updated.


__________________
SPS/Zoa dominant 20g tall, 10g sump, BM 3.5 skimmer, MP10W, 78watts of custom LED Power!!
dublo8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/07/2011, 02:10 AM   #4
azreefgeek
Registered Member
 
azreefgeek's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Scottsdale Arizona
Posts: 39
haha sorry, I am a short story kind of guy... My patience for aquatics breaks a few rules :-)


azreefgeek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/07/2011, 06:47 AM   #5
vanillagorila
It stings the nostrils
 
vanillagorila's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Surprise, Az
Posts: 2,003
Its hard to tell in the picture, but make sure that you have the tank sitting on a complete base. Acrylic tanks need to be supported on their entire bottom.


vanillagorila is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/07/2011, 10:07 AM   #6
azreefgeek
Registered Member
 
azreefgeek's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Scottsdale Arizona
Posts: 39
I do have support boards running in the cross sections between the closed loop bulkheads, spanning the depth of the tank. Where I did make a big change is by using a 4x4 on the cabinet side of the tank for support so that I would not need a vertical column between the cabinet doors. They will close in to each other and should allow me much greater access to the equipment below.


azreefgeek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/07/2011, 01:56 PM   #7
usefulidiot213
Bryan H.
 
usefulidiot213's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: 40th St. & Thunderbird
Posts: 1,349
Quote:
Originally Posted by crsaz View Post
I have 2 suggestions for you, ditch the calcium probe they are useless, they require frequent calibration. weekly or even more frequently if you plan to run it continuously. Also skip the g3, they are great little work horses but they are severely overrated, I run a g3 on my 57 gal and it just barley gets the job done. maybe look into the reef octopus xp-2000 it would be a great fit for your system.

I would say the ASM G3 will do the job no prob, as long as you do the mesh mod. It kicks the G3's production almost double. I run a ASM G3 with a mesh mod no problem on my 120, and pull about a full cup of yummies a week.
Now.. To almost completely contradict myself. I do plan on upgrading to a Super Reef Octo XP-2000 Cone Skimmer later this year. The ASM G3 works, but that Bubble Blaster pump is one bad mama jama..


__________________
"I would rather be lucky then good."
Bryan H.

Current Tank Info: 120 AGA- 4x2x2 Mixed Reef. 2 MP40s, Vertex IN-180 Skimmer, RKL Controller for temp control and light timing. 8x 54 Watt T5 lighting.
usefulidiot213 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/07/2011, 02:10 PM   #8
Kalakuhan
Free Reef
 
Kalakuhan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 1,197
Quote:
Originally Posted by azreefgeek View Post
Staring at in the frame he thought, "hmm what am I missing?". That's when he woke up and realized he was in over his head...
I think we're all in over our head once we start on this hobby!!

Nice setup, perfect spot for a see through!

Now get to the plumbing already.


__________________
rePete

Current Tank Info: 125g rimless leemar, 40B sump, ASM G3, MP40s, 2x40 3w CREEs CW/RB mix, Neptune Apex
Kalakuhan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/07/2011, 05:26 PM   #9
azshooz
Sunburnt
 
azshooz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 503
Quote:
Originally Posted by crsaz View Post
maybe look into the reef octopus xp-2000 it would be a great fit for your system.
+1

Just make sure you make it a SUPER Reef Octo. I went from a G3 to the SRO XP-2000. World of difference.....


__________________
"The last word in ignorance is the man who says of an animal or plant: 'What good is it?"

-Aldo Leopold

Current Tank Info: 120G mixed reef. Shallow Rimless 50G. BC29
azshooz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/07/2011, 05:34 PM   #10
NaClH20NMYVEIN
Red Dragons!
 
NaClH20NMYVEIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 5,631
Tank looks great so far, and that parts list is worth drooling over as well!


__________________
The planet needs a 50% water change.

Current Tank Info: *Sun Powered 540G inwall
NaClH20NMYVEIN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/07/2011, 08:02 PM   #11
azreefgeek
Registered Member
 
azreefgeek's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Scottsdale Arizona
Posts: 39
Spent the afternoon working on the water station in the laundry room. RODI unit is installed and the barrels are plumbed and in place. Just waiting on the LiterMeter so I can get the hoses that are run from here to the tank connected for auto top offs and auto water changes :-)




azreefgeek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/07/2011, 08:15 PM   #12
NaClH20NMYVEIN
Red Dragons!
 
NaClH20NMYVEIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 5,631
Make sure you adjust the UHE for 1 to 1 water they dont set them at that level from the factory. Mine was near 1 good to 5 bad gallons from Spectrapure.


__________________
The planet needs a 50% water change.

Current Tank Info: *Sun Powered 540G inwall
NaClH20NMYVEIN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/07/2011, 08:34 PM   #13
azreefgeek
Registered Member
 
azreefgeek's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Scottsdale Arizona
Posts: 39
Glad you figured out what the problem was... I remember you telling me the waste water was way up there on yours when you first started it.

I will get on it! Thanks


azreefgeek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/07/2011, 11:13 PM   #14
crsaz
Moved On
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: phoenix
Posts: 1,363
I did the mesh mod and recirc mod on my g3 and the xp-2000 still kicks its butt. Im not saying the g3 isn't a good skimmer but its an outdated and inefficient design.


crsaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/07/2011, 11:24 PM   #15
azshooz
Sunburnt
 
azshooz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 503
Automatic water changes. I'm jealous.

Are you gonna do continuous water changes or just periodic? I'm toying with the idea but not sure yet....


__________________
"The last word in ignorance is the man who says of an animal or plant: 'What good is it?"

-Aldo Leopold

Current Tank Info: 120G mixed reef. Shallow Rimless 50G. BC29
azshooz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/07/2011, 11:42 PM   #16
azreefgeek
Registered Member
 
azreefgeek's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Scottsdale Arizona
Posts: 39
Because of the pump speed of the doser I am using for water changes, I am pretty much forced to go with a semi continuous schedule.


azreefgeek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/07/2011, 11:58 PM   #17
jjk_reef00
Registered Member
 
jjk_reef00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,230
Those lights look really sweet! I'm looking forward to hear your review of them.


__________________
I need more fish tank appliances!
--Ed

Current Tank Info: 375 FOWLR
jjk_reef00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/28/2011, 12:37 PM   #18
fote03
Registered Member
 
fote03's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Gainesville, Florida
Posts: 761
Looks like a cool build. Thats lights are sweet looking!


__________________
65Gal Reef with 20gal Display Fuge - 60Gal Mixed Reef - 29gal BioCube
fote03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/28/2011, 02:02 PM   #19
NaClH20NMYVEIN
Red Dragons!
 
NaClH20NMYVEIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 5,631
The PAR was pretty good on them as well. If I remember correctly they were at about 170 at the bottom of the tank.


__________________
The planet needs a 50% water change.

Current Tank Info: *Sun Powered 540G inwall
NaClH20NMYVEIN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/28/2011, 06:29 PM   #20
reefstew
Registered Member
 
reefstew's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Phoenix ,Az
Posts: 1,484
I would beef up the framing. I don't see the 4x4 in the picture.


reefstew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/29/2011, 08:34 AM   #21
azreefgeek
Registered Member
 
azreefgeek's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Scottsdale Arizona
Posts: 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by reefstew View Post
I would beef up the framing. I don't see the 4x4 in the picture.
I did beef up the stand a bit more. The pressure treated 4x4 is on the living room side of the tank, supporting the coated MDF platform. The dining room side is supported by an array of 2x4's. I will post some pics.

I need to post a lot of pics of the tank this weekend. I put in water, sand and seed rock last week to get the cycle going...

Drywallers will be in on Monday to get things finished up :-)

Quote:
Originally Posted by NaClH20NMYVEIN View Post
The PAR was pretty good on them as well. If I remember correctly they were at about 170 at the bottom of the tank.
Here is a PAR chart:


I have the cannons about 20" off the top of the water.


__________________
-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
100G Fully Automated Dual View In-wall, 55G Sump, 4 x Ecoxotic 50w LED Canons (15 Fish, 4 Shrimp, 1 Lobster, Mostly SPS Mixed Reef) - Home
azreefgeek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/29/2011, 10:22 AM   #22
Xgame2k
Registered Member
 
Xgame2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
Posts: 799
siiiick.


Xgame2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/29/2011, 10:28 AM   #23
areucrazy
Registered Member
 
areucrazy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Glendale Az
Posts: 1,152
NICE JOB!!! I'm not that brave to do this kinda thing on my own... I can put stuff together but I'm not a very good planner. Cant wait to see it all finished. I too am jealouse about the automatic water changes! thats awesome!


areucrazy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/29/2011, 07:42 PM   #24
Willow01
Registered Member
 
Willow01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 187
That's looking so good, I can't wait to see it dry-walled and painted.


Willow01 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04/29/2011, 08:08 PM   #25
urbaneks
Registered Member
 
urbaneks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 301
Very nice start to the tank. Congrats on making your dream come true.


urbaneks is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
100 gallon, automated, automation, in-wall, tank build

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ben & Em's First Tank Build - 36 Bow - Feedback Is Appreciated Ben_n_Em Reef Discussion 18 07/19/2012 05:22 PM
BTA/Clown tank build orthokardia Nashville Area Reefers 4 04/15/2010 04:42 PM
New 100g Rimless/braceless Leemar tank build Mchava Southern California Reefers 36 12/04/2008 05:50 PM
The in-wall tank build.... take 2 Modemagic Greater Iowa Reef Society 16 02/15/2007 01:06 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:48 AM.


TapaTalk Enabled

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright ©1999-2014