Fish feeding with hikari mysis

snorvich · 07/11/2011, 07:01 AM

I currently feed my anthias with a mixture of hikari and PE mysis. However, hikari mysis seems no longer to be available in the 40 oz flat packs. Anyone recommend an equivalent mysis available in large packages (it is less expensive that way. (By the way, I also feed other stuff such as Nutramar Ova, cyclopeeze, etc, so I am not looking for alternative foods but would consider such if you have ideas).

wdt2000 · 07/11/2011, 10:22 AM

Wow I didn't even know they made a 40oz flat pack. I tried the H20 1kg pack, but the mysis were mostly in pieces with very few intact.

geaux xman · 07/11/2011, 10:35 AM

you can also get mysis by the brick if you want.

6.7lbs for $99.
http://www.jehmco.com/html/freeze_dried.html#FDMysis

http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/...ing-broke.html

Monkeyfish · 07/11/2011, 12:17 PM

How long can you keep Mysis in the freezer?

snorvich · 07/11/2011, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyfish

How long can you keep Mysis in the freezer?

I usually order a three months supply of either. Of course I have a dedicated freezer in the garage and a very tolerant wife.

aleonn · 07/11/2011, 01:36 PM

Wow, that's a huge brick LOL

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Originally Posted by geaux xman

you can also get mysis by the brick if you want.

6.7lbs for $99.
http://www.jehmco.com/html/freeze_dried.html#FDMysis

http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/...ing-broke.html

wdt2000 · 07/11/2011, 02:40 PM

Are they mainly whole mysis or is it bits and pieces?

Quote:

Originally Posted by geaux xman

you can also get mysis by the brick if you want.

6.7lbs for $99.
http://www.jehmco.com/html/freeze_dried.html#FDMysis

http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/...ing-broke.html

aquaph8 · 07/11/2011, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

I usually order a three months supply of either. Of course I have a dedicated freezer in the garage and a very tolerant wife.

Where can I order one of those. Mines

snorvich · 07/11/2011, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by aquaph8

Where can I order one of those. Mines

I am lucky in that regard. Her only passion in my aquaria is mandarins and she is tolerant of other fish and critters. Not so big on my keeping and feeding blackworms but otherwise very tolerant. I am very lucky with respect to having her in my life.

nonstopfishies · 07/12/2011, 12:48 AM

WOW! That is a huge thing of Mysis. I personally have tried a bunch of different brands for Mysis, but think it is worth the few extra dollars for the PE mysis because they actually come almost all full bodied compared to almost all other brands where they are all chopped up. They seem to be more oily and nutritious imo as well.

I try to keep at most 6 months worth in the freezer, obviously the fresher the better, but I would say a year absolute tops.

klepto · 07/12/2011, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by geaux xman

you can also get mysis by the brick if you want.

6.7lbs for $99.

How do you find the quality of this product? The protein content of their mysis is dwarfed by the moisture content (for the frozen). The freeze dried option will have a longer life than typical frozen food right?

Do you get a comparable feeding response with the freeze dried to standard frozen fare?

wdt2000 · 07/12/2011, 06:58 AM

Looks like they offer 5.5lbs of frozen(never freeze dried) Mysis relicta for $30. But this is comparable to PE Mysis not Hikari.

snorvich · 07/12/2011, 07:46 AM

Well I already feed and would continue to feed PE mysis. I am looking for a Hikari mysis equivalent.

geaux xman · 07/12/2011, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by klepto

How do you find the quality of this product? The protein content of their mysis is dwarfed by the moisture content (for the frozen). The freeze dried option will have a longer life than typical frozen food right?

Do you get a comparable feeding response with the freeze dried to standard frozen fare?

i've never tried any of it, but if you follow that thread, a lot of folks from the jersey area is real happy with it. shipping for them is only around 10 bucks.

the high shipping cost for me(south louisiana) would negate any price advantage of buying in bulk.

MrTuskfish · 07/12/2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

I am lucky in that regard. Her only passion in my aquaria is mandarins and she is tolerant of other fish and critters. Not so big on my keeping and feeding blackworms but otherwise very tolerant. I am very lucky with respect to having her in my life.

She's lucky too; she has a husband with a hobby that keeps him home.

SkullV · 07/12/2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

Well I already feed and would continue to feed PE mysis. I am looking for a Hikari mysis equivalent.

Just out of curiosity, other then the size difference why bother feeding 2 different kinds of mysis?

george915 · 07/12/2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SkullV

Just out of curiosity, other then the size difference why bother feeding 2 different kinds of mysis?

One is fresh water mysis and another one is saltwater mysis. Nutrition contents will be different.

snorvich · 07/12/2011, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SkullV

Just out of curiosity, other then the size difference why bother feeding 2 different kinds of mysis?

Different fish like different things. Leopards as an example love PE mysis. I mix feed PE and Hikari for my anthias.

snorvich · 07/12/2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by george915

One is fresh water mysis and another one is saltwater mysis. Nutrition contents will be different.

Exactly. I try to provide different foods at different times of the day for a variety of nutritional content.

klepto · 07/12/2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SkullV

Just out of curiosity, other then the size difference why bother feeding 2 different kinds of mysis?

There is the benefit of varying the nutrition as others have mentioned in addition to the noticeable size difference. PE is much larger that Hikari mysis. Some reef fishes (usually the small mouthed ones) tend to favor Hikari in my opinion primarily because of it's size. Their mysis also do not have as substantial of a chitin exoskeleton as the Mysis relicta that PE and other companies offer. At times the thick exoskeleton can limit a fishes ability to fully ingest the mysis.

Personally, I don't bother varying the mysis types because I think that PE's product is far superior. Most fishes will learn to accept it even if they don't initially. I like to dice PE while frozen if the fishes I'm feeding can't handle the full sized mysis.

Just my thoughts on the matter..

klepto · 07/12/2011, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by geaux xman

i've never tried any of it, but if you follow that thread, a lot of folks from the jersey area is real happy with it. shipping for them is only around 10 bucks.

the high shipping cost for me(south louisiana) would negate any price advantage of buying in bulk.

Thanks for the response.

MrTuskfish · 07/13/2011, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by geaux xman

i've never tried any of it, but if you follow that thread, a lot of folks from the jersey area is real happy with it. shipping for them is only around 10 bucks.

the high shipping cost for me(south louisiana) would negate any price advantage of buying in bulk.

You might be surprised. Check LA for frozen food, they give volume discounts and deliver to your door. No sales tax. Its cheaper for me than any lfs. Plus, the selection is amazing. Shipping is $25, no matter how much you buy. I'm quite a drive from any decent LFS, PetSmart has no selection; so I come out way ahead. I do feed a lot my own foods, though.

snorvich · 07/13/2011, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTuskfish

You might be surprised. Check LA for frozen food, they give volume discounts and deliver to your door. No sales tax. Its cheaper for me than any lfs. Plus, the selection is amazing. Shipping is $25, no matter how much you buy. I'm quite a drive from any decent LFS, PetSmart has no selection; so I come out way ahead. I do feed a lot my own foods, though.

I agree about LA. But I am more interested in "your own foods". Tell us more . . .

MrTuskfish · 07/13/2011, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

I agree about LA. But I am more interested in "your own foods". Tell us more . . .

No big deal; I just meant the seafood I get at the grocery store; shrimp, fish fillets, scallops, squid, and turnip greens.

klepto · 07/13/2011, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

...I am more interested in "your own foods". Tell us more . . .

Steve,
Have you tried chopped prawn (table shrimp) for your anthias? I have seen it prompt a great feeding response with Lyretail Anthias (P. squamipinnis) and tons of other reef fishes. For some reason, Lyretails seem to go especially wild for it.

07/11/2011, 07:01 AM	#1
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outlander Posts: 40,953 Blog Entries: 46	Fish feeding with hikari mysis I currently feed my anthias with a mixture of hikari and PE mysis. However, hikari mysis seems no longer to be available in the 40 oz flat packs. Anyone recommend an equivalent mysis available in large packages (it is less expensive that way. (By the way, I also feed other stuff such as Nutramar Ova, cyclopeeze, etc, so I am not looking for alternative foods but would consider such if you have ideas). __________________ Warmest regards, ~Steve~

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geaux xman Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 3,279	you can also get mysis by the brick if you want. 6.7lbs for $99. http://www.jehmco.com/html/freeze_dried.html#FDMysis http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/...ing-broke.html __________________ - Miracles 180g 60x30x23" rimless FOWLR - Youtube video: Miracles 180g March 2013 Last edited by geaux xman; 07/11/2011 at 10:41 AM.

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Monkeyfish Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Long Island (NY) Posts: 4,077	How long can you keep Mysis in the freezer? __________________ Eric "One thing that humbles me deeply is to see that human genius has its limits while human stupidity does not." Current Tank Info: Taking a break

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snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outlander Posts: 40,953 Blog Entries: 46	Well I already feed and would continue to feed PE mysis. I am looking for a Hikari mysis equivalent. __________________ Warmest regards, ~Steve~

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07/11/2011, 10:22 AM	#2
wdt2000 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mills River NC Posts: 904	Wow I didn't even know they made a 40oz flat pack. I tried the H20 1kg pack, but the mysis were mostly in pieces with very few intact.

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nonstopfishies Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 685	WOW! That is a huge thing of Mysis. I personally have tried a bunch of different brands for Mysis, but think it is worth the few extra dollars for the PE mysis because they actually come almost all full bodied compared to almost all other brands where they are all chopped up. They seem to be more oily and nutritious imo as well. I try to keep at most 6 months worth in the freezer, obviously the fresher the better, but I would say a year absolute tops.

07/12/2011, 06:58 AM	#12
wdt2000 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mills River NC Posts: 904	Looks like they offer 5.5lbs of frozen(never freeze dried) Mysis relicta for $30. But this is comparable to PE Mysis not Hikari.