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Old 12/06/2017, 02:47 PM   #1
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What to put in my refug

I have a small refug area on my sump. What is the best stuff to put in it?

I know a LED light, some cheto but what else should I use? Mineral mud?
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...8&pcatid=18378

-Do you have to change that our every year? or do you put sand on top? I was even just thinking of putting rocks and cheto with no sand.

I seen people use some of these blocks that are very pours. What are they called?

Thanks for the input everyone!


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Old 12/06/2017, 03:11 PM   #2
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I donít like sand in the fuge, it just makes a big mess. Mine has half rubble rock, and half cheato. I also have a plastic container with rubble to get frags to attach.


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Old 12/06/2017, 04:18 PM   #3
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I have the marine pure ceramic plates in my sump with chaeto - that's it


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Old 12/06/2017, 06:07 PM   #4
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marine pure ceramic plates! Thats what I was looking for, how many should I put in mine? Do you stack a ton of them or just put one at the bottom?


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Old 12/06/2017, 06:16 PM   #5
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Dr Foster and not to put it with light..

That seems wrong.I have herd these are in refug. So there is a light on it.. I can have a light right?

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Old 12/06/2017, 06:27 PM   #6
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What do you think about these for lights in my refug?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/48-LED-Nano...MAAOSwvjdZQcgB


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Old 12/06/2017, 08:05 PM   #7
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marine pure ceramic plates! Thats what I was looking for, how many should I put in mine? Do you stack a ton of them or just put one at the bottom?
Here is the link to the info
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What do you think about these for lights in my refug?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/48-LED-Nano...MAAOSwvjdZQcgB
If my memory is correct I believe you want around 6500k to get the most out of your fuge light. Basically a plant light as that offers the best spectrum for plant growth. I used a 6500 or 6700k spiral cfl bulb from Lowe's in my last tank and grew chaeto very well. Currently don't have any as po4 is only .03 and no3 is only .2 with no visible algae growth and light film on glass I clean once a week so don't see a need for it yet.


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What do you think about these for lights in my refug?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/48-LED-Nano...MAAOSwvjdZQcgB
They will work.


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Old 12/06/2017, 08:23 PM   #10
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They will work.

Thanks I found this and I like it. What you think?

INNOVATIVE MARINE MAGNAFUGE LED REFUGIUM LIGHT - 6500K MAGNET MACRO ALGAE - 7601


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Thanks I found this and I like it. What you think?

INNOVATIVE MARINE MAGNAFUGE LED REFUGIUM LIGHT - 6500K MAGNET MACRO ALGAE - 7601
I think that light would depend on how big an area you are trying to cover. It's only 6w and states for aio aquariums so seems like it's designed to light only a small space.


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I think that light would depend on how big an area you are trying to cover. It's only 6w and states for aio aquariums so seems like it's designed to light only a small space.
Ok and some reviews are bad. What you think about this one? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Refugium-li...53.m1438.l2649


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Old 12/06/2017, 09:00 PM   #13
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What size area are you trying to light?


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https://m.lowes.com/pd/SYLVANIA-2-Pa...-Bulbs/3202351

That is what I used, nothing fancy but it worked.


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It’s like 12”x6 I believe


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https://m.ebay.com/itm/EVO-12-6500K-...10&_mwBanner=1

Was thinking about giving that one a try myself, might be worth looking at.


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I'm using this, it was a cheap led grow light off eBay (there are lots of options). It keeps my ball of cheato pearling (producing small oxygen bubbles) constantly which is a sign of strong photosynthesis. I'm the 2.5 weeks I've had it running the ball of cheato in my refuge has tripled in size and this is on a brand new tank with very little bioload.


The light is 10" x 10" which work perfect for my fuge


The cheato is probably doubled since this picture



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Old 12/07/2017, 07:40 AM   #18
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Thanks for that tip! That light looks really nice! I just personally dont want a huge one over the tank like that.


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marine pure ceramic plates! Thats what I was looking for, how many should I put in mine? Do you stack a ton of them or just put one at the bottom?
I have 1" and 4" plates stacked (4 of each - 1" on the bottom, 4" stacked on top to fill the entire fuge area in my 60 gal sump)

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I used a 6500 or 6700k spiral cfl bulb from Lowe's in my last tank and grew chaeto very well.
This is what I have - it came with the ADHI sump but I'm sure it's just rebranded from a standard Big Box store fixture...


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I have 1" and 4" plates stacked (4 of each - 1" on the bottom, 4" stacked on top to fill the entire fuge area in my 60 gal sump)



This is what I have - it came with the ADHI sump but I'm sure it's just rebranded from a standard Big Box store fixture...
Ill just grab a 6500 bulb if I dont have one already, I already have the socket and holder for it.. So thats simple and cheap ha!

Thanks for the help


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Old 12/07/2017, 09:58 AM   #21
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Buy a $12 LED Plant Light from Amazon and put it in a clamp fixture (or wahtever you want). Done. You get 90% of the growth that you get from a $300 Kessil light in a small form factor for about 5% of the cost.


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Buy a $12 LED Plant Light from Amazon and put it in a clamp fixture (or wahtever you want). Done. You get 90% of the growth that you get from a $300 Kessil light in a small form factor for about 5% of the cost.
Awesome, do you have a link?


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Ok:

This one
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M7V7KLU...PE4T615E&psc=1

or this one?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MYH5BN8...PE4T615E&psc=1


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I have 1" and 4" plates stacked (4 of each - 1" on the bottom, 4" stacked on top to fill the entire fuge area in my 60 gal sump)
How much water and rock do you have? How heavily stocked are you? I'm assuming nitrates are never a problem for you? I'd love to hear more about how this much is working for you!


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