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Old 12/06/2017, 10:18 PM   #1
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New tank, Dr Tims Ammonium Chloride and Seachem Stability cycle?

New tank, Dr Tims Ammonium Chloride and Seachem Stability cycle?

Hi all, been researching and see a lot of mix/different ways to cycle. First time using dry rock, 40 lbs dry seaflor special reef sand and 16lbs arag-live live Reef sand.l for my 40 Breeder.

Plan on using seachem stability with no hob filter cartridges, only heater and power heads and HOB running free with no light.

So I dose the dr tims to 2ppm which will show after 1-2 hours after dosing? Then add SC stability to absorb the AC and keep bacteria alive? When do I re-dose or do I re-dose the dr tims ammonia?


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Old 12/07/2017, 11:25 AM   #2
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You can always simply follow the directions...


But.. I personally would do as follows if I was wanting to do that..
#1-Follow the directions on the Stability bottle..
#2-Add the ammonium chloride to 1 or 2ppm max on day one..
#3-Continue with the directions on Stability but do not add anymore ammonia..
#4-Then just wait for ammonia/nitrites to be zero and enjoy..

I recommend against going crazy with the ammonia as most just over do it and end up with sky high nitrates and then need to do substantial water changes to reduce those levels post cycling..


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Old 12/07/2017, 11:38 AM   #3
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You can always simply follow the directions...


But.. I personally would do as follows if I was wanting to do that..
#1-Follow the directions on the Stability bottle..
#2-Add the ammonium chloride to 1 or 2ppm max on day one..
#3-Continue with the directions on Stability but do not add anymore ammonia..
#4-Then just wait for ammonia/nitrites to be zero and enjoy..

I recommend against going crazy with the ammonia as most just over do it and end up with sky high nitrates and then need to do substantial water changes to reduce those levels post cycling..


Thank you! At first wasn't sure if I should be adding the ammonia, so had to make a post But makes sense since bottle wants fish in cycle.

Will dose to 2ppm and wait, good to know not to re-dose the A/C


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Old 12/07/2017, 11:39 AM   #4
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Initial startup test, nothing added just rodi/salt and live sand


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Initial startup test, nothing added just rodi/salt and live sand
There may be some ammonia already from the "live sand".. Despite the name its typically more "dead" than "live" as it can sit on warehouse shelves/dry out fairly quickly..

Many of those "bacteria in a bottle" products are also kind of hit or miss and many times don't really seem to do anything but take money from your pocket..


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Old 12/07/2017, 01:38 PM   #6
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There may be some ammonia already from the "live sand".. Despite the name its typically more "dead" than "live" as it can sit on warehouse shelves/dry out fairly quickly..

Many of those "bacteria in a bottle" products are also kind of hit or miss and many times don't really seem to do anything but take money from your pocket..


Thanks! Yea, I know the story of live/dead sand haha, figure 1/2 off at $14 I needed some extra anyways and if it helps cool plus had store credit. Bacteria in a bottle was a filler item to get to free shipping so worth a shot


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Personally, I would go with a smaller dose, something like 0.5-1.0 ppm, which should be high enough to measure accurately with a hobbyist kit. Extra ammonia isn't going to accomplish much, but it won't hurt much either at 2.0 ppm.

I don't know whether the bacteria actually will help produce a filter on the rock, but it might. It should be able to consume ammonia, but that's different from seeding the rock.


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Old 12/08/2017, 08:38 PM   #8
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Did 120 drops instead of 180 drops . Factored in rocks and sand and water volume.


2 hours later since ammonium chloride:




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And it has begun...
enjoy the cycle..

No more ammonia needed for you..


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And it has begun...
enjoy the cycle..

No more ammonia needed for you..


Exactly what I was thinking, well that ammonia was done lol. Ammonia and nitrate test today


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Old 12/10/2017, 10:39 AM   #11
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Day 3 of bacteria , 1 day since ammonium add

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