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Old 11/04/2005, 02:03 PM   #1
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Success with Fiji devils-30 years late



Excuse the very poor quality of these pics but it´s the best focus I could get of this tiny (10mm) 30days old juvenile Fiji devil (Chrysiptera taupou)soon after metamorphosis and still coloring up.
As far as I know,it could well be the first of this species ever captive raised.The first and only because this fish is the only survivor of several hundred hatched larvae.
Even so,I feel very happy with it,and take it as a long awaited acomplishment.I have a special crash with this fish

Thirty years ago...(here comes a long boring story which you should skip or stay at your own risk
)Well,no,I´ll make it short.I set my first marine aquarium,very pioneer way,almost all DIY,including the salt,there was nothing available here at that time.I had a mixed group of fish including a pair of C.taupou.I was lucky because this fish is very aggressive and hard to pair off.Anway,I found them one day spawning in a big barnacle shell.I was astonished,books of that time didn´t mention fish could breed,keeping them alive was good enough.Coming from FW breeding,I said "why,they´re just like cave spawning cichlids".So I put the shell with the nest into a HOB Dynaflo filter,with the return flow hitting the nest.Sure enough,the eggs developed and one day I found hundreds of new born fry.The larvae were obviously too small for bs,so I tried hard egg yolk (a common FW food),but they soon died.Then I lost the parents,and all my fish,with an Amyloodinum outbreak.
But this close encounter with breeding proved addictive and I kept thinking about getting a new pair,breed them and RAISE them.
Then I moved to San Antonio,Tx.for a pot-doctoral fellowship.There I met Nelson Herwig and Steve Walker,then (1977) of the local Aquarium.They were raising Neon gobies and almost every day I visited them.As C.taupou were impossible to find,Nelson suggested the yellow tail damsel,C.parasema.They are cheap,easy to find and breed easily.So most of my breeding attempts were made with parasema until I first could raise some few,some years ago.But taupou was my first love and I kept dreaming on raising them.This is why I find this tiny blue thing so special


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Old 11/04/2005, 02:26 PM   #2
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FELICIDADES LUIS !

Me dejaste con la boca abierta, deja que Todd se entere!

Parece que la moviste de su tanque para la foto?

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Old 11/04/2005, 03:13 PM   #3
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Gracias Ed! Las crie en uno de tus "BRT"(black round tank)
Right,took the pics while moving it from the larval tank to grow -out.
Here comes the one that didn´t show.

Not any better but you can see the yellow fins and blue body.


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Old 11/04/2005, 04:31 PM   #4
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That is an astounding accomplishment.

First love...

Congratulations, Luis.


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Old 11/04/2005, 04:47 PM   #5
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Old 11/04/2005, 04:56 PM   #6
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Luis,
Good to see you post the pictures, one species down 999 to go

Don’t let Luis fool you, he conceals the fish in a bad photo intentionally so the Great Salami will not claim them.

BTW, Luis how was dinner with George and Hugo?


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Old 11/04/2005, 05:02 PM   #7
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do u have any pics of the parent fish? i would love to see what they look like and could you provide some info about how you raised them.

thanks and congradulations again,

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Old 11/04/2005, 05:11 PM   #8
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Great News!

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Old 11/04/2005, 05:40 PM   #9
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Re: Success with Fiji devils-30 years late

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[Fiji devil (Chrysiptera taupou)soon after metamorphosis and still coloring up.
As far as I know,it could well be the first of this species ever captive raised.
Congrads Luis!
Tough buggers to crack!
But, not the first time.


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Old 11/04/2005, 05:59 PM   #10
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Congrats, Luis!

A major accomplishment, to say the least!


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Old 11/04/2005, 09:52 PM   #11
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Thank you pals for the congrats I promise better pics of baby and parents in the future.Doug,I´ll love to hear about that "first time".

I can raise between 0 and 3 Chrysiptera damsels per spawn.Would you people call it a success or a failure?Well,it´s all relative.I can say "I bred a new species"and post pics and bred a 2nd generation.But honestly there´s nothing successful in losing 99.5% of every spawn.I will keep working with them until I find the way to raise a decent number of larvae,say 50% of the spawn.And learn to take better pics


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Old 11/04/2005, 10:04 PM   #12
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Luis,

You should give your self more credit. It always gets easier, once you make that first break through.


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Old 11/05/2005, 01:12 AM   #13
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Luis,

Congratulations. This is truly great news and a big boon for the hobby. Keep those little ones coming.

looking forward to seeing a pic of the parents.

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Old 11/05/2005, 08:55 AM   #14
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congrads

hopfullly more babys to come


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Old 11/09/2005, 05:10 AM   #15
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Congratulations!

It's always a great inspiration to read about other peoples succes! Without the Fish Breeding Forum and the stories here I wouldn't be where I am today...
I've done Occelaris and Bangaii.... my Fridmani fry are almost 2 weeks old and look fine. Considering what to try next...


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Old 11/09/2005, 02:13 PM   #16
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CONGRATS!!! sometimes the most abundant species are the greatest accomplishments.


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Old 11/26/2005, 05:36 AM   #17
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Luis, congrats. Although I have had blue devils spawn many times I never raised any of the fry. I think 1 to 3 fish per spawn is great. In the sea there are probably only 4 or 5 that live.
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Old 11/27/2005, 12:29 PM   #18
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Thanks for the encouraging concept. Will keep posting any improvement with survival.
I posted here couple of years ago a pic of a taupou larva very close to MMP:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...postid=2145192
See that the middle body is taller than the previous "cephalic hump".The black lines near the tail fin in a dorsal view seem a precaudal black spot.
My current taupou juv.started MMP as dorsal blue coloratin at 27 dah.
It is growing nicely and one of these days I will take some better pics to post here.


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Old 11/27/2005, 03:06 PM   #19
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Hey Luis,

Great Job! I'm happy to hear that you're still at it. This is a great accomplishment. Keep the photos and the good news coming.

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Old 11/28/2005, 04:45 AM   #20
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Todd,

Called your cell phone all weekend. I've got your seahares lined up.

Luis expects to see a paper based on his work
Can't wait to see some better pictures of the little guys.



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Old 11/28/2005, 08:03 AM   #21
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Luis,

When can we expect a paper?

Andy,

Why didn't you leave a message? I'm ready for sea hares. Anyone down there need sea horses? I've got an experiment ending tomorrow.


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Old 11/28/2005, 09:41 AM   #22
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Todd, that was an inside jab to Luis, you should be able to figure it out.

I'll phone you this afternoon.

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I got the Jab. I'm suggesting that Luis should actually get the credit for his accomplishment this time.


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Old 11/28/2005, 10:06 AM   #24
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When can we expect a paper?

I can´t write papers,I´m just a hobbyist.Andy is pulling my leg because of that guy who used all my data on C.parasema to publish a fake article in Aquaculture pretending he did it.I´m sure you know.


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Old 11/28/2005, 01:14 PM   #25
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Luis te dije que le iba a gustar...

How's the damsel?

Todd, wonder if your domino are still down there...

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