View Full Version : ***!!!let's see those rare clownfish!!!!***
deangelr
08/17/2011, 08:35 PM
There has been a lot of chatter lately (deservedly so) about some of the spectacularly beautiful "designer" clowns. I certainly believe they belong at the discussion as some of the finest clowns available, and I know I wouldn't give up my pair...
This thread aims to shed some light on the diversity of clownfishes, and to show the beauty of what occurs naturally. Posting of pictures will help us get so know some of the clowns we don't get to see very often, and some may not even know exist. (I also spend way too much time googling around for clown pictures and so desperately need some new ones :) )..
Show us your rare and uncommon clowns.. I am talking about WILDTYPE clowns . Those that refer to a the standard of the species, or most common or "typical' alleles. For several species: clarkii, chrysopterus, bicinctus, tricinctus, etc.. there are many variations. These variations typically coincide with a particular geographic location.. I would call the normal/common variation of each geographic region the "wildtype," or standard for that particular variant or species...
Often times the most spectacular specimens are what were originally created by evolution and our natural world.... There are 28 species of clownfish (not counting barberi and pacificus..) and it appears most aquarists are only able to choose from the few species that are bred and produced in mass numbers by the very few commercial hatcheries that distribute to a limited number of online retailers and LFS's. I do enjoy my occellaris and percula, but there are many more species out there. I believe that if these species were to become more available for hobbyists, they would earn their footing in the aquariums and the breeding industry. A higher demand, created by buyers (aquarists), for a larger number of species will encourage breeders like ORA, SA, and others to procure and breed a wider variety of species for aquarists to select from.
The following are the fish that I believe qualify for this thread.. Please post any fish that you think might be unique to a particular geographic region and also uncommon in the trade.
*My grading system is a crapshoot at best, so feel free to disagree... I weighted each fish's availability in the aquarium trade most importantly. Second, I took into account how their range overlaps with common collection and exportation areas.
RAREST!!!
A. latifasciatus
A. omanensis
A. chagonensis
A. fuscocaudatus
RARE!!
(A)
A. mccullochi
A. thiellei
A. chrysogaster
(naturally occuring hybrids (lumped into one category))
(B)
A. Lecuokranos
A. latezonatus
(variants of bicinctis, tricinctis, and others I am sure I don't know of)
UNCOMMON! (probably most species of clownfishes or more than what I have listed)
(A)
A. tricinctus
A. allardi
A. bicinctus
A. chrysopterus
A. akynidos
A. rubrocinctus
(some clarkii variants)
(B)
A. akallopisos
A. nigripes
A. sebae
BonsaiNut
08/18/2011, 09:55 AM
A fun list. You are forgetting A. percula and A. ocellaris. Additionally you might note that some clowns are uncommon in the wild, while some clowns are quite common in the wild, but just aren't commonly collected (A. omanensis, for example)
deangelr
08/18/2011, 11:16 AM
A fun list. You are forgetting A. percula and A. ocellaris. Additionally you might note that some clowns are uncommon in the wild, while some clowns are quite common in the wild, but just aren't commonly collected (A. omanensis, for example)
I put in this little caviot..
"My grading system is a crapshoot at best.. I weighted each fish's availability in the aquarium trade most importantly..."
But I might argue with you on Omans being common in the wild. Their homerange is one of the smallest of all the clownfishes..
But yes, Please feel free to use your own grading system and include any fish you feel needs a little attention the clownfish world.
Whip316
08/18/2011, 02:31 PM
Ill go first
My Tricinctus pair in my solana
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/clownfish2011/Clownfish%20pairs/IMG_0286.jpg
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/clownfish2011/Clownfish%20pairs/IMG_0283.jpg
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/clownfish2011/Clownfish%20pairs/IMG_0285.jpg
Bicincutus. i love mine cause they have a lyretail thing going on with their dorsal fin. crappy shots cause they dont stay put for longer than a sec to take a pic. only female is shown
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/clownfish2011/Clownfish%20pairs/IMG_0275.jpg
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/clownfish2011/Clownfish%20pairs/IMG_0269.jpg
My fav pair of Latz. Female is over 5" and is very active and i cant believe i got a god shot on them.
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/clownfish2011/Clownfish%20pairs/IMG_0261.jpg
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/clownfish2011/Clownfish%20pairs/IMG_0262.jpg
i got other pairs, but these are my rarest and nicest ones. i lost a large and beautiful pair of CHrysopterus from a heater explosion . female was over 5" easy. large blue stripes and simply stunning. here is a pic when i first got them and i am sad i didnt take more before they died.
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/clownfish2011/Clownfish%20pairs/IMG_0507.jpg
2Addicted
08/18/2011, 07:53 PM
Heres a bad cell phone picture of my melanopus. Not a rare species, but a rare morph lacking the white stripe.
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oceancube1
08/18/2011, 08:10 PM
latz is amazing,,,wow
BonsaiNut
08/18/2011, 08:13 PM
Heres a bad cell phone picture of my melanopus. Not a rare species, but a rare morph lacking the white stripe.
<a href="http://s1002.photobucket.com/albums/af143/way2addicted/Mobile%20Uploads/?action=view&current=downsized_0723002118.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af143/way2addicted/Mobile%20Uploads/downsized_0723002118.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
I think we'd call that a "misbar" not a rare morph. It is easier to breed clowns with misbars (or no bars) than clowns with perfect bars.
2Addicted
08/18/2011, 09:13 PM
It is easier to breed clowns with misbars (or no bars) than clowns with perfect bars.
It was wild caught, but i see what you mean.
deangelr
08/19/2011, 08:25 AM
Ill go first
My Tricinctus pair in my solana
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/clownfish2011/Clownfish%20pairs/IMG_0283.jpg
Seriously underrated fish!! That sunburst pattern it great..
Winwood
08/19/2011, 03:11 PM
Chrysopterus trio
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy306/Lunsforj/013.jpg
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy306/Lunsforj/005-1.jpg
phender
08/19/2011, 11:40 PM
Heres a bad cell phone picture of my melanopus. Not a rare species, but a rare morph lacking the white stripe.
<a href="http://s1002.photobucket.com/albums/af143/way2addicted/Mobile%20Uploads/?action=view&current=downsized_0723002118.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af143/way2addicted/Mobile%20Uploads/downsized_0723002118.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
I remember seeing a wild photo I think from the Coral Sea of a large group of melanopus where about half had a head stripe and half didn't. It seems to be a natural occuring variation. Very cool.
2Addicted
08/20/2011, 10:00 AM
I remember seeing a wild photo I think from the Coral Sea of a large group of melanopus where about half had a head stripe and half didn't. It seems to be a natural occuring variation. Very cool.
oh ok I thought I had something special. If by any chance you happen to run across that picture again could you let me know?
RouDaiLLe
08/20/2011, 10:09 AM
Hello,
I would have said that A. mccullochi is also in the rarest as it is endemic from Lord howe Island which is UNESCO classified, therefore, there is few opportunity to see it in aquarium trade except illegally or if bred.
I do agree with the rest of your list
Reefvette
08/20/2011, 12:22 PM
White bonnet
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s234/ClownBailey24/IMG_2903.jpg
deangelr
08/20/2011, 12:36 PM
Hello,
I would have said that A. mccullochi is also in the rarest as it is endemic from Lord howe Island which is UNESCO classified, therefore, there is few opportunity to see it in aquarium trade except illegally or if bred.
I do agree with the rest of your list
The reason I didn't put Mcculloch's clownfish in the "rarest" category is because they are becoming more established in the trade.. I know of 4 people who have adult pairs of Mcc's in captivity. They are also showing up on LA more often since their pair has been breeding.. They are $500 for an F2 juvenile.. I would bet they are maturing pairs as we speak to sell at higher prices.. This fish is also more prevalent in Japan.. So, although they are perhaps one of the rarest clownfish in the wild , I have to put them 1 tier down from the those fish non existent in the trade.
I know of ZERO Chagos, ZERO Fusco's, and zero Lati's (although I know there are some of these). There are also at least 6 Oman's in the trade.. I know of 3 here in the states.. But I still keep them in the rarest category.
RouDaiLLe
08/21/2011, 02:24 AM
Hello,
It is not impossible that Amphiprion chagosensis has been already imported under the name of bicinctus because it has been seen in the past few years at Sharm El sheick (Egypt) under a darker morph.
Therefore, i am sure some people got a chago but think they got a bicinctus.
As regards, the lati, it has been probably imported from Kenya under a clarkii, and according to me the same comment than the above applied.
Omanensis, i agree it's rare because difficult to import as it is endemic from oman.
As regards the mccullochi, good to see that we can find some bred pairs, maybe one day i can afford one when it gets to Europe :)
Regards,
Rudy
Jay03GT
08/21/2011, 05:46 PM
Here are a few older pics of my Allardi. Came in as a pair and they started to fight. Don't think I've seen another Allardi local since, and that was 5 years ago.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee109/jay03gt/DSC_0037.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee109/jay03gt/DSC00691.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee109/jay03gt/DSC00685.jpg
Dragon moray ki
08/22/2011, 03:27 PM
Awesome I have a pair of yellow stopes that I gave to my sister in her little tank my eel would destroy them
deangelr
08/22/2011, 05:46 PM
Here are a few older pics of my Allardi. Came in as a pair and they started to fight.
Do you still have 2? That is a great looking fish..
Jay03GT
08/22/2011, 06:30 PM
Do you still have 2? That is a great looking fish..
I wish. They were fighting at the LFS before I ever got them. I think the owner of the LFS kept the other for himself, but then got out of the hobby a few years later.
phender
08/22/2011, 07:30 PM
oh ok I thought I had something special. If by any chance you happen to run across that picture again could you let me know?
It is actually in my Fautin and Allen (1992) book. There is a single fish pictured on the melanopus description page and then near the back of the book there is a field of BTAs and a large group of melanopus that includes 1, maybe 2 bar-less fish. I don't know if the same pictures are included in the more recent versions of the book.
deangelr
08/22/2011, 07:46 PM
page 121.. nice find.. you are a true clownfish nerd..
elegance coral
08/22/2011, 07:53 PM
From the "uncommon" list. A. sebae
I owned this fish for several years, and couldn't find a mate for it. This is a pic of when I tried to pair it with A. polymnus.
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/420/sn853578ot3.jpg
And when I first got it. Still in the bag.
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/624/sn853448qf1.jpg
phender
08/25/2011, 06:58 PM
page 121.. nice find.. you are a true clownfish nerd..
For over 30 years(since I was about 20 yo), and proud of it. :D
phender
08/25/2011, 07:35 PM
Let me see if I can get all my rare/uncommon clowns in one post.
Female Leuc
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=678&pictureid=34630
Not a great pic, but a pair of Nigripes
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=678&pictureid=34627
My first pair of sebaes. The females tail turned black (not uncommon I understand).
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=678&pictureid=34628
Same tank, same anemone, different pair of sebaes (sold the first pair)
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=678&pictureid=34629
Akindynos. Only pair I still have of the above fish. Most others were sold.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=678&pictureid=34626
I am sticking this one in here because it was one of my favorite fish. I had a pair that actually laid eggs for me twice. I sold them to a clown breeder because I thought they were picking on my corals. Turns out they probably weren't. :(
Its a Red Sea Mimic blenny. They used to come in mixed with black-lined blennies (the ones they imitate), but for some reason they don't seem to be collecting small fish from the Red Sea anymore. They were never common, but haven't even heard of any being offered in over 10 years.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=678&pictureid=34631
2Addicted
08/25/2011, 09:54 PM
Akindynos. Only pair I still have of the above fish. Most others were sold.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=678&pictureid=34626
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Do you still have that gig?
phender
08/25/2011, 10:39 PM
Do you still have that gig?
I knew somebody was going to ask me that. That gig was a reclamation project. The pic is from a couple years ago. The anemone was in pretty bad shape when I got it. Notice the gaps between tentacles and general flaccidness of the oral disk. I liked the color and got it for a very cheap price, so I thought I would take a chance. It didn't last 2 weeks.
The akindynos' current home is a BTA that I have had for several years, but just moved it to this tank about a year ago.
Its sort of an orange/pink depending on what day it is with yellow tips.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=678&pictureid=28352
caliking
08/26/2011, 08:31 PM
I want a Lightning Maroon Clownfish.
Whip316
08/26/2011, 09:04 PM
My tri's are my fav pair i have so far. i have others like Rods Onyx, and a snowcasso's and picasso's. but i like the classic clowns better. Tricinctus, Chrysopterus are my fav. I would love to own a pair of Chrysogasters one day.
WaffleWalffle22
08/26/2011, 10:35 PM
Well I own a pair of Picassos, which trumps anything that nature has to offer. :jester:
SDguy
08/27/2011, 05:11 PM
Clarkiis aren't rare, but I think this pair I got a while back was pretty spactacular.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p5/SDreefguy/Clarkiiclowns.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p5/SDreefguy/IMG_2122_1.jpg
deangelr
08/30/2011, 10:25 AM
Those certainly are spectacular.. Do you still have them? That female looks like a monster clown!
MagicReefer
08/30/2011, 12:30 PM
I have a pair of Allardi's also. They are super cool. I bought this carpet at a pet store in NJ. It was bleached but healthy so I bought it. The Allardis took right to it and helped it settle it overnight. I have owned them for about 4 months now. They travel between the RBTA and the carpet but the female is partial to the carpet. He just goes wherever she makes him...HEHE!
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SDguy
09/01/2011, 08:12 PM
Those certainly are spectacular.. Do you still have them? That female looks like a monster clown!
Yes, and yes she is. Here she is during a tank transfer...
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p5/SDreefguy/Clown%20Cube%2010-17-10/06.jpg
SDguy
09/01/2011, 08:14 PM
I have a pair of Allardi's also. They are super cool. I bought this carpet at a pet store in NJ. It was bleached but healthy so I bought it. The Allardis took right to it and helped it settle it overnight. I have owned them for about 4 months now. They travel between the RBTA and the carpet but the female is partial to the carpet. He just goes wherever she makes him...HEHE!
Great clowns! I had a pair in my FO, but lost the female recently for unknown reasons :(
elegance coral
09/02/2011, 05:19 PM
Clarkiis aren't rare, but I think this pair I got a while back was pretty spactacular.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p5/SDreefguy/Clarkiiclowns.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p5/SDreefguy/IMG_2122_1.jpg
There was a good sized shipment of these fish that hit the states about a year ago +/-. I haven't seen them since. They were said to have come from Australia. Definitely not your run of the mill clarkii. Beautiful fish!
I just noticed something. If that's 1/2" eggcrate behind the female, that puts her about 3 to 3.5 inches from her anal fin, to her dorsal. That's a monster fish. Don't let Jeremy Wade, from River Monsters, know you have it. He'd break out his fishing poll. LOL
Whip316
09/02/2011, 09:25 PM
i have a friend who just inherited a pair of large clarkii. biggest clowns i ever seen. i swear the female was easy 6" long. tall and thick also. beautiful fish. i am kicking myself for not buying the pair to breed them.
deangelr
11/16/2011, 01:29 PM
I somewhat recently moved cross country (again) and had to move my clownfish collection/breeding room.. The move went really smoothly and I am now in a place that I plan to be for a while.. So I am feeling really good about my reefing.. :)
I thought I would share this video..
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/bOax-wJcIVw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Whip316
11/16/2011, 03:14 PM
DId you get them from someone from ny? i tried to buy a pair of them but were sold to quick.
deangelr
11/16/2011, 04:57 PM
Yes.... Back in February.
jumpman420
11/18/2011, 04:33 PM
Those are all really cool. Never knew there was so many variations
Johanv
12/11/2011, 07:24 PM
There was a good sized shipment of these fish that hit the states about a year ago +/-. I haven't seen them since. They were said to have come from Australia. Definitely not your run of the mill clarkii. Beautiful fish!
I just noticed something. If that's 1/2" eggcrate behind the female, that puts her about 3 to 3.5 inches from her anal fin, to her dorsal. That's a monster fish. Don't let Jeremy Wade, from River Monsters, know you have it. He'd break out his fishing poll. LOL
I just went this weekend to one of the big saltwater fish stores over here in Miami (http://www.allfishemporium.com/) and they had a bunch of those and a black color variation.
vaporize
12/14/2011, 01:43 AM
I think we'd call that a "misbar" not a rare morph. It is easier to breed clowns with misbars (or no bars) than clowns with perfect bars.
This is not called misbar, there is a melanopus morph that comes from the Coral Sea does not have head stripes as adults.
Also, there's the fire clown (A. ephippium) that does not have a head bar either. (Their red saddle as a black spot seems to fade away with aquarium conditions).
From the "uncommon" list. A. sebae
I owned this fish for several years, and couldn't find a mate for it. This is a pic of when I tried to pair it with A. polymnus.
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/420/sn853578ot3.jpg
And when I first got it. Still in the bag.
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/624/sn853448qf1.jpg
These are True Sebae, they are kind of rare from Indonesia; however they are extremely common from Sri Lanka region. I see them every month.
Ron Popeil
09/15/2013, 11:27 PM
revive a two year old thread? why not. im a purist, and miss seeing threads about species and not just misbar/designer clown IDs.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/ronaldpopeil/408C465C-011D-4689-8AF3-7FEF5729BFF7-3945-000001D20C9BFF4A_zpsc44c7ccc.jpg (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/ronaldpopeil/media/408C465C-011D-4689-8AF3-7FEF5729BFF7-3945-000001D20C9BFF4A_zpsc44c7ccc.jpg.html)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/ronaldpopeil/944EADFA-AA6E-4CCC-A9D0-0753B111E6EB-3945-000001D2212D0E9A_zps7ffb9d40.jpg (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/ronaldpopeil/media/944EADFA-AA6E-4CCC-A9D0-0753B111E6EB-3945-000001D2212D0E9A_zps7ffb9d40.jpg.html)
SDguy
09/16/2013, 12:58 PM
Beautiful pair!
SDguy
09/16/2013, 01:02 PM
My "Melanesia" clowns are still going strong in the FOWLR. They're just impossible to get a good picture of...
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p5/SDreefguy/Fish%20Pics%202013/DSC06124-1.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p5/SDreefguy/Fish%20Pics%202013/DSC06214-1.jpg
Ron Popeil
09/16/2013, 04:43 PM
excellent!
keep posting those hard to find clowns!
matty0206
09/16/2013, 04:48 PM
This thread makes me miss my Clarki pair.
Very nice clowns.
A. thiellei
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e92/walterlaroque/2012-04/IMG00515-20120425-1854.jpg (http://s37.photobucket.com/user/walterlaroque/media/2012-04/IMG00515-20120425-1854.jpg.html)
Overboard
11/25/2013, 12:09 PM
Love the A. thiellei!! Still kicking myself for not picking up the single that was listed on DD recently.
I missed it. Was it nice looking?
Overboard
11/25/2013, 06:36 PM
I kept the photo. I thought it was pretty good looking and not too crazy high, for how rare they are.
Cool. Thanks for posting.
vaporize
11/25/2013, 07:34 PM
I kept the photo. I thought it was pretty good looking and not too crazy high, for how rare they are.
Is that the ora tank raised ones?
Overboard
11/25/2013, 08:09 PM
Not sure, but I think it was a wild caught fish.
Is that the ora tank raised ones?
Do you have a cited source for this tidbit? I'm not aware of any legitimate captive spawnings of A. thiellei. I'd love if there were.
Lou Young
11/26/2013, 09:36 AM
I saw this new ORA video about their breeding Leucokcranis
http://youtu.be/MM5ry-1g7ao
I saw this new ORA video about their breeding Leucokcranis
http://youtu.be/MM5ry-1g7ao
Probably what he means. A lot of people confuse the two based on one speculation in popular literature.
phender
11/26/2013, 10:30 AM
Its too bad ORA's pair is so brown. I saw a beautiful orange pair at a wholesalers in April of 2012 that were already sold. I thought maybe ORA had picked them up somehow.
They all seem to brown with age... though I'm not convinced that isn't due to a poor diet. I'm betting squid and cyclopeeze would do them a lot of good.
phender
11/26/2013, 11:33 AM
They all seem to brown with age... though I'm not convinced that isn't due to a poor diet. I'm betting squid and cyclopeeze would do them a lot of good.
The pair I saw was a full sized breeding pair. They were "orange skunk" orange. They also had more of a skunk body shape rather than the chysopterus body shape that the brown leucs tend to have. (Yes, I am sure they were not mis-marked sandarcinos :) )
When I first started seeing leucs (wild pictures and in person in the 70's & 80's) nearly all of them were orange. Since they tend to breed with different species in the wild, most often chrysopterus from what I have read, the more prevalent color seems to be shifting towards brown.
I have no arguement that they vary in appearance. But I have kept seven leucokranos and four thielleis and they have all darkened over time in captivity. I get lazy at times and revert to lower quality foods. I am convinced that they would brighten back up with higher nutrient foods.
Would you guys like to start a new thread? We've done a bit of a hijack.
phender
11/26/2013, 12:06 PM
I have no arguement that they vary in appearance. But I have kept seven leucokranos and four thielleis and they have all darkened over time in captivity. I get lazy at times and revert to lower quality foods. I am convinced that they would brighten back up with higher nutrient foods.
Would you guys like to start a new thread? We've done a bit of a hijack.
You can start a new thread if you want, but I don't think were are that far off.
It is interesting that you have noticed the "brown out" in your fish that is similar to what happens with the white tailed chrysopterus, but doesn't seem to happen with sandaracinos. I wonder if it is food related or habitat related (ie, not enough room, to much stress, etc.)
I'll revert to this one to avoid redundancy. I answered your last post there.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1800227
2008-05
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e92/walterlaroque/2008-05/Copyofthiellei007.jpg (http://s37.photobucket.com/user/walterlaroque/media/2008-05/Copyofthiellei007.jpg.html)
2012-03 (Same Fish)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e92/walterlaroque/2012-03/IMG00315-20120311-1334.jpg (http://s37.photobucket.com/user/walterlaroque/media/2012-03/IMG00315-20120311-1334.jpg.html)
deangelr
06/01/2014, 12:17 PM
Excited to see this today..
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c239/deangelr/IMG_0022_zpsb7a65e36.jpg (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/deangelr/media/IMG_0022_zpsb7a65e36.jpg.html)
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c239/deangelr/IMG_0003_zps58f03fab.jpg (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/deangelr/media/IMG_0003_zps58f03fab.jpg.html)
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justinky
06/01/2014, 12:47 PM
Excited to see this today..
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c239/deangelr/IMG_0022_zpsb7a65e36.jpg (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/deangelr/media/IMG_0022_zpsb7a65e36.jpg.html)
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http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c239/deangelr/IMG_0014_zps812a12f5.jpg (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/deangelr/media/IMG_0014_zps812a12f5.jpg.html)
Congrats and good luck!
deangelr
06/01/2014, 01:39 PM
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vaporize
06/01/2014, 04:48 PM
Congrats - looking excited
Anemone12
06/01/2014, 08:02 PM
are those just plain clarkii clowns? I'm now very good at identifying clowns. Are you going to raise the next couple batches?
Winwood
06/01/2014, 11:37 PM
latifasciatus?
Yuri Barros
06/02/2014, 04:37 AM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c239/deangelr/th_HDV_0386_zps59a2c225.jpg (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c239/deangelr/HDV_0386_zps59a2c225.mp4)
A. latifasciatus are nice fishes...........
I don´t have clownfishes to show............but one of my favorites are endemic to Ogasawara Island.............Japan.............
Amphiprion clarkii
Knowed in Ancient Times.........as Amphiprion snyderi (Ishikawa, 1904).............
In this Text : http://www.wdc-jp.biz/pdf_store/isj/publication/pdf/23/231/23103.pdf
Jack T. Moyer says :
" Amphiprion snyderi Ishikawa (1904) from the Bonin Islands"
" A Melanistic form occours in the Bonin Islands. Sexual Dichromatism is not present in population from Bonin Islands."
The Bonin Islands.........or Ogasawara Islands.........belong to the Volcanic Arch..............Izu-Ogasawara-Marianas............and consists of three Sub-Groups :
Mukojima Group
Chichijima Group
Hahajima Group
Ogasawara Island..........is a UNESCO World Heritage...........
The Middle Barr......is very thin........
There is no Sexual Dichromatism...............
Males and Females............have the same Color Pattern........
A Rare........and Endemic Clownfish............
The Tail Fin is White.......a bit Bluish/Gray.................
Juveniles...............have a distinct Colour Pattern..............as said Jack T. Moyer :
"Juveniles are dusky orange, noticeably different in shade than juveniles of A. clarkii we have observed elsewhere."
Also Jack T. Moyer says :
"In every case, a Single pair of Adults shared the sea Anemone with 8~10 juveniles."
Melanism :
Melanistic Fishes..........of the other Clark´s Variants.......is always in Symbiosis with Stichodactyla mertensii............and sometimes with Stichodactyla haddoni.................
But this not happens with Melanistics Fishes............from Bonin Islands.........as Jack T. Moyer says :
" Populations of A. clarkii in the Bonin Islands need further study. Reasons for melanism in this area are not understood. Intrestingly, all of our observations of A. clarkii in the Bonin Islands are with Radianthus Anemones rather than Stoichactis species."
All the fishes......of the Ogasawara Population..........have the same color Pattern.............
Anemones :
About the Anemones Jack T. Moyer says :
"Melanistics individuals from the Bonin Islands inhabit Radianthus Anemones"
"This anemonefish is rather rare, apparently due to the scarcity of Anemones in the Bonin Islands."
"All of our observations have shown this fish to be associated with an Anemone of the Genus Radianthus."
Amazing Entacmaea quadricolor Population........from Ogasawara Islands..............
In his Text...........Jack T. Moyer says that Allen (1972).............discusses Geographic Variation in Amphprion clarkii Populations..............suggesting a relationship to Geographic Locality..............
About Jack T. Moyer ..................
http://web-japan.org/trends/people/peo030702.html
Videos :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjZhZ92hyAg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53Xz5L_O7qA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bMBHkcO2qw
Pictures :
http://members3.jcom.home.ne.jp/arashinchu.of.diving/photo_data04.html
http://www28.tok2.com/home/notti/ogasawara/kumanomi.html
http://www.ntv.co.jp/bankisha/bonkisha/2011/06/post-114.html
http://www.geocities.jp/fluorite_liquid/marine/oga_photo3_2.htm
http://www.geocities.jp/fluorite_liquid/marine/oga_photo2_2.htm
http://pagina.fc2web.com/0306ogasawara/diving_log/haha/dive10-0611/hahadive10.htm
http://www.geocities.jp/aquaticlifeartgallery/ogasawara-ryokou/ogasawara/ogasawara010.jpg
http://ameblo.jp/bluelace-ogasawara/theme-10037507360.html
http://www.env.go.jp/park/ogasawara/photo/view.php?l=27
http://ameblo.jp/bluelace-ogasawara/entry-11010110653.html
http://www.ogasawara-dc.com/~gallery/gallery_view10d.ehtml?userid=00000002&pr=&entry=313&pcol=4&col=4&bg=white
http://home.att.ne.jp/wind/MF/shima/diving/diving.files/ogasawara2.jpg
http://home.att.ne.jp/wind/MF/shima/diving/diving.files/ogasawara10.jpg
http://ameblo.jp/bluelace-ogasawara/entry-10532369953.html
http://www.ogasawara-dc.com/~gallery/gallery_view10d.ehtml?userid=00000002&pr=78&entry=319&pcol=4&col=4&bg=white
Juveniles
http://ameblo.jp/bluelace-ogasawara/theme-10021543869.html
SDguy
06/02/2014, 05:12 AM
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Simply stunning!!
deangelr
06/02/2014, 12:14 PM
Thanks guys!
Yuri, you are like a clownfish encyclopedia!
The batch was mostly gone today but hopefully the clutches get larger over subsequent spawns...
Yuri Barros
06/02/2014, 03:20 PM
I was thinking that you should try Chad Vossen larvae trap.........
http://chadvossen.blogspot.com.br/2010/05/larval-fish-traps.html
Matt Pedersen uses it with sucess...........
http://www.lightning-maroon-clownfish.com/?tag=chad-vossen
You leave the clutch with the parents care............avoiding some problems with artificial incubation..........
It sounds good...........
deangelr
06/03/2014, 12:14 PM
I was thinking that you should try Chad Vossen larvae trap.........
http://chadvossen.blogspot.com.br/2010/05/larval-fish-traps.html
Matt Pedersen uses it with sucess...........
http://www.lightning-maroon-clownfish.com/?tag=chad-vossen
You leave the clutch with the parents care............avoiding some problems with artificial incubation..........
It sounds good...........
We use these regularly for our Ocellaris pairs.. They seem to work much better than taking the eggs out and using an air stone.. So if any eggs survive the 9 days I will certainly give it a shot. Today there are only 4-5 eggs left, so sadly I do not think any from this batch will make it
Anemone12
06/03/2014, 12:27 PM
I know these fish aren't rare but I thought i'd post a pic. This is their 4th batch.
Supposly they can be hard to get to spawn.
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