Vortech DIY Battery Backup

[bugs713]

For those that asked about this~
I have five VorTech MP series pumps that run on my three SW tanks.
I wanted to utilize the 12v battery backup capabilities of these pumps, but did not want to spend $165 x 3 for their way over priced battery backups.

I read of others using this Belkin backup for these pumps and tried it out and it works great! In my testing, I got 11+ hours of battery backup to power one MP40WES at 50% power for a cost of $24!! I now have 3 of these installed with another 2 on the way from ebay.

In the event of a power failure, these will automatically kick on and provide my Vortech's with 12 volts of power and run them at 50% for 11 hours!

Parts
*Belkin battery backup Model #BU3DC001-12v - $15 to $30 @ eBay

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*Fused VorTech Battery Backup Cable Item #10427 - $1.50 @ EcoTech
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I cut this cable on the fused side so I could utilize the inline fuse; you only need one of the plugs and could make two cables, but I wanted to utilize the inline fuse AND they are only $1.50 each. I then cut the plug off the Belkin plug, spliced the Vortech cable/plug to the Belkin cable, soldered the wires together, used heat shrink for protection - Done!

This is an inexpensive and simple DIY battery backup for Vortech pumps and takes about 10 minutes to cut and splice the wires together.

I didn't follow the markings on a wires to tell me which is + or - voltage, rather I used my multimeter to tell me which is which. If you happen to splice the wires wrong, as I did the first time, it will not work.



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[azjohnny]

Nice Tip, I may just blow the dust off of my Helping Hands and make a few. I would periodically test them to make sure they still work, its Murphys Law that when the power goes out the back up will be dead

[Kalakuhan]

Does anyone know how many hours a vortech batt backup will run an mp40?
The spec sheet says up to 36 hours.
Just wondering if vbb have bigger batts than your DIY.

[bugs713]

I would periodically test them to make sure they still work, its Murphys Law that when the power goes out the back up will be dead

These units will alert you with beeps and flashing LED if the battery goes bad. Plus, they run a self test automatically every 21 days; you can run this test manually also. For the cost of a Vortech BB, it should email you AND make you coffee...

[rtartag]

This is awesome. I was looking into the vortech batter back up until I saw this. Will defiantly give it a try

[bugs713]

Does anyone know how many hours a vortech batt backup will run an mp40?
The spec sheet says up to 36 hours.
Just wondering if vbb have bigger batts than your DIY.

Yes, I believe the VBB is rated at 18Ah and the Belkin is 7.2Ah
But again, for the cost, you could run two or more of these in parallel for hours of backup.

[azjohnny]

Yes, I believe the VBB is rated at 18Ah and the Belkin is 7.2Ah
But again, for the cost, you could run two or more of these in parallel for hours of backup.

I was thinking the same thing to increase the run time, I have heard some people who had the Vortech model that when the power went out the BBU was dead.....Nice!...:uhoh3:

[Kalakuhan]

Yes, I believe the VBB is rated at 18Ah and the Belkin is 7.2Ah
But again, for the cost, you could run two or more of these in parallel for hours of backup.

Thanks, that's what i figured but knowing the actual rating is even better. :beer:

[dotcommer]

when you get your other Belkins in. You should make a video and post it here and on youtube for everyone in the community.

Great DIY project. Thanks for posting.

[bugs713]

^^Thank you and Your welcome!
I will do a YouTube video this week when the other Belkin's arrive and as time permits.

It really is a great little and simple mod and saves the user $130+ over a VBB AND does much more than a VBB!

[bambam918]

Thanks bugs! I will add this to the fish list! The wife will just have to understand lol

[jmadison]

Yes, I believe the VBB is rated at 18Ah and the Belkin is 7.2Ah
But again, for the cost, you could run two or more of these in parallel for hours of backup.

I understand what this means, but if you could cover how you do this in your highly anticipated video it'd be greatly appreciated by myself! Awesome DIY project:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[bugs713]

I understand what this means, but if you could cover how you do this in your highly anticipated video it'd be greatly appreciated by myself! Awesome DIY project:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Will do.

Received the other 2 Belkins today along with the extension plugs from Ecotech, will start on a DIY video this week.

[artkwan]

Will do.

Received the other 2 Belkins today along with the extension plugs from Ecotech, will start on a DIY video this week.

That is truly awesome! Good luck, and now following this thread!

[bugs713]

I have also found an adapter cable on Ebay for under $5 shipped. That means no splicing, just plug and play!
I will post the info tomorrow.

[Weyrman]

Pretty sweet bugs!

I imagine when the battery goes bad you could replace it with a longer life battery. Perhaps a full size deep cycle marine battery. One might power all of your Vortechs for years if properly maintained.

Looking forward to the DIY video.

[xfactor1315]

Following, which adapter did you buy? So glad I found this thread!

[bugs713]

This is the eBay link where I ordered the adapter and it is plug and play, no splicing needed.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370777307082...84.m1439.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/370777307082?var=640071261264&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649)
You will see a drop down menu where you will need to select:
Male Plug OD:3.5mm ID:1.35mm

Delivered cost was under $8 with rather fast shipping. With this adapter, you will have a good 10' of hookup wire, making it easy to place this out of sight.

I am still going to make a series adapter that will allow two Belkins to power one Vortech for double the back up hours. I will do a picture step by step or video of this when I do.
I had a short 10 minute power outage a few days ago and they all came on and powered my five Vortech's at 50%. When the back up goes on battery power, they beep, so it was rather noisy haha You can silence the beep BTW.

I'm also going to experiment with using one of these to power the head units of my Reef Keepers using the SW5 module; this will power the head unit and other modules during a black out. It of course will not power the PC4 power strips.
Stay tuned!
:)

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[xfactor1315]

Thanks! I built myself one and it works perfectly. I like how the battery will alarm with a power outage. Great job.

[insomniac2k2]

I believe that this one would work too: http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-5mm-2-1mm-Female-plug-to-3-5mm-1-35-male-power-cable-/260953840139?pt=Laptop_Adapters_Chargers&hash=item3cc20f9a0b

If you do a search for 5.5mm/2.1mm Female plug to 3.5mm/1.35 male power cable, you will get quite a few cheap options. Correct me if im wrong on this one. I'd hate to steer people into the wrong direction.

[bugs713]

I believe your right, I just ordered one from your link, we'll see when it arrives.
:thumbsup:

[insomniac2k2]

Here's my take on this:

I don't want to have too many of these, so I'd actually like to use one of these for multiple things. With the adapters that I just linked, you should be able to run one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Female-to-2-Male-DC-Power-20AWG-2-1mm-x-5-5mm-Y-Adapter-Cable-CCTV-/390576798464?pt=US_Surveillance_Cables_Adapters_Connectors&hash=item5af030fb00

Or even one of these for more devices: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Female-to-4-Male-2-1mm-x-5-5mm-22AWG-DC-Power-Y-Adapter-Cable-CCTV-/390576766472?pt=US_Surveillance_Cables_Adapters_Connectors&hash=item5af0307e08

For example:

I have a 12v powered network switch that my apex, web camera, and TV set-top box hook up to. I would want network available to all these (less the set-top box) in the event of a power outage. I also want to power my apex and my vortech pump. The only thing that draws much power is the vortech.

But for me, I need to also power my modem that lives in my garage, and my router that is at another location in my house. This would allow me check on my tank remotely in the event of a power outage. I guess im just a mess ;)

Caveat: A few of my switches in my garage are 5v. Im thinking that I can splice a few of these in the mix: http://www.amazon.com/HOSSEN%C2%AE-Converter-Power-Supply-Module/dp/B00A71CMDU

This will allow me to step down the 12v DC to 5V tp power the remaining 3 5v devices that I have.

Damn you. You already made me buy 2 of these Belkin units. Now I need a 3rd ;)

This type of a battery backup is just so much more efficient than a standard one though!

[insomniac2k2]

Even better.

12v Belkin to stepdown converter: http://www.amazon.com/Vktech-Double-DC-DC-Converter-Module/dp/B00CTGB24G/ref=sr_1_13?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1369276031&sr=1-13&keywords=12V+Step+Down+to+5V hooked up to one of these:http://www.amazon.com/Camera-2-1x5-5mm-Female-Power-Adapter/dp/B005CMP434/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1369276489&sr=1-5&keywords=2.1mm+x+5.5mm+female (which gives you a solderless connection to the Belkin)

Now you have 2 standard USB OUT. Now add 2 of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-to-MALE-DC-plug-3-5mm-1-35mm-Power-Supply-Connector-Cable-Cord-3-5-1-35-/251137284431?pt=Laptop_Adapters_Chargers&hash=item3a78f2d94f

You can now power 2 - 5v devices

Hijack over ;)

[srf11]

Never really looked at the ecotech backups since the price was so out of whack. But having 2 mp10s and 2 radions, this looks like something I'll try - ordered 2 to start with for pumps - anybody try them for radions??

[bugs713]

insomniac,
Great finds! Thanks for your input, that's what DIY is all about!
I will order some of the splitters and see how they work for adding 2 or more Belkins to increase the run time.

I have some small voltage step down circuits I got from eBay a while back, but the ones you found on Amazon are better priced and enclosed. I ordered one and will test it.

Post any results you get from anything you build or buy, I will of course do the same.
:beer:

[insomniac2k2]

I haven't ordered any stepdowns yet. I'm still calculating how many 5v devices I want to drive, and what barrel connector size they will need. BUT, Here is a bunch of links that I've been saving as options for extra hardware. Maybe some of them will help you or someone else:

Bunch O' extensions: http://www.ebay.com/itm/330859978736
Longer extension: http://www.ebay.com/itm/140978736884
Cheap 8 way splitter for larger power requirements: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221031134460
4-way splitters cheap: http://www.ebay.com/itm/180905394358
Higher power step downs with big heatsink: http://www.ebay.com/itm/251018988940
5 pack of Vortech adapters: http://www.ebay.com/itm/390480560910
Set of 5 ea of barrel adapters for stepdowns: http://www.ebay.com/itm/181119009065

I haven't decided which direction yet, but I will post up my results. Yesterday was a good test running my wireless router (with quite a bit of traffic) for 12 hours. Still no end in sight. The belkins should last quite some time running that and a few switches.

[Chris Lakies]

Which cable do i use to daisy chain two of the back ups together to get longer run hours?

Thanks for this thread!!

[m-six hundred]

I believe that this one would work too: http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-5mm-2-1mm-Female-plug-to-3-5mm-1-35-male-power-cable-/260953840139?pt=Laptop_Adapters_Chargers&hash=item3cc20f9a0b

If you do a search for 5.5mm/2.1mm Female plug to 3.5mm/1.35 male power cable, you will get quite a few cheap options. Correct me if im wrong on this one. I'd hate to steer people into the wrong direction.

I believe your right, I just ordered one from your link, we'll see when it arrives.
:thumbsup:

Did you ever receive your cable? does this one work?

[insomniac2k2]

Although I have not yet ordered it. I'm 99.9% positive it will work. It's just a positive and negative wire in the cable. Not much can go wrong ;)

[bugs713]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-5mm-2-1mm-Female-plug-to-3-5mm-1-35-male-power-cable-/260953840139?pt=Laptop_Adapters_Chargers&hash=item3cc20f9a0b


Yes, received this cable and it works perfect to attach the Belkin to the an MP without splicing - great find insomniac2k2!

It is also cheaper, $3 shipped. The only bad thing, it ships from China, but was actually fast for shipping from there. I always try to avoid buying anything direct from China, choosing a USA company whenever possible. I didn't notice this was coming from China when I ordered. Though I'm sure it was made in China... I'd rather pay a bit more and order states side.

I will order some of the splitters that insomniac listed and see if they work properly. Will post when I get them.

[Chris Lakies]

Which cable do i use to daisy chain two of the back ups together to get longer run hours?

Thanks for this thread!!

Would this work??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-Power-Splitter-Cable-5-5x2-1mm-1-2-Female-Adapter-CCTV-Camera-Extension-Cable-/170785221087?pt=US_Surveillance_Cables_Adapters_Connectors&hash=item27c397a9df

[macboat]

I have a questions for people who battery back ups, do you plug it in all the time?

[insomniac2k2]

You should. Otherwise it defeats the purpose of owning one.

[bugs713]

I have a questions for people who battery back ups, do you plug it in all the time?
A back up battery such as these Belkins and Vortech, plug in to the wall and keeps the battery fully charged and ready for when the power is lost.

Like he said, plugging it in only when their is an outage, defeats the the reason to have one IF you are not home or asleep when you lose power.
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[Chris Lakies]

Duh

[bugs713]

Duh
Thanks for your input! :facepalm:

[Chris Lakies]

Thanks for your input! :facepalm:

I put a no brainer question in then erased it. Thats why i said duh, for myself lol!

[bugs713]

^^Duh...haha
:)

[Chris Lakies]

Anybody have the way to connect two or more to get a longer run time?

[trueblackpercula]

Great thread going to try it

[bugs713]

Would this work??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-Power-Splitter-Cable-5-5x2-1mm-1-2-Female-Adapter-CCTV-Camera-Extension-Cable-/170785221087?pt=US_Surveillance_Cables_Adapters_Connectors&hash=item27c397a9df

I ordered some of these a few days ago and will post results.
I really like the idea of plug & play cables with no splicing. I don't have any problem cutting, splicing and soldering, but others do. Also, ready made cables are always better than DIY!

[bugs713]

Update:
To connect two Belkin's together to greatly extend the power outage run time,
With the input/research form several people in this thread, I ordered an all female splitter (one to two), a 6'male/male extension and an adapter plug, all plug and play, no splicing, no dicing and it works perfect!

The Parts:

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*Adapter - 3.5x1.35mm Male to 5.5x2.1mm Female
(This single adapter can be used to connect one Belkin cord to the Vortech without any other adapters or cables)
eBay: 5 @ $4.98 shipped.
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*Splitter Cable - 5.5x2.1mm 1 to 2 Female Adapter:
(For connecting two Belkins to one Vortech. There are other splitters available to connect 3, 4, 6, 8 plus Belkins together, but this parts list is for two)
eBay: 1 @ $3.25 shipped.
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*6 foot Extension - 2.1mm Male to Male Plug Adapter:
For extension connection between the Y splitter and the adapter
eBay: 1 @ $6.49 shipped.
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Some of these parts are shipped from China, but shipping was rather fast and all are top rates sellers.
Other options for this would be a multi-spliter, as mentioned above, to add more Belkins for extended use, or to connect a multi-splitter to use one Belkin to apply back up power to 2 or more Vortech's.

In the next few days, I will run some power outage tests using two Belkins, powering one MP40WES, will also do the same test using an MP10ES. I will post the total hours and voltage so we have a good idea on how long these will help to keep our tanks alive in a real outage.

Extra Info on the adapter plugs:
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[Weyrman]

In the next few days, I will run some power outage tests using two Belkins, powering one MP40WES, will also do the same test using an MP10ES. I will post the total hours and voltage so we have a good idea on how long these will help to keep our tanks alive in a real outage.

I'll be interested in your findings! I've been tagging on all along. I have a mixture of Hydor and Vortech circulation pumps. I have them hooked up to a single UPS backup system. I haven't done an actual test yet for duration. I think I'll do that this weekend too.

I could, in the alternative, make your setup for the Vortechs and include a power inverter and plug the Hydors into that. It might be interesting to see what the results are.

I have several different battery options sitting around the place too. From an Exide sealed lead acid 1234W to a deep cycle marine monster I keep charged and ready for my boat.

I also expect to use the UPC for the cooling fans. Since, if the power goes out it's not just the flow that becomes a concern. The A/C becomes a consideration after a few hours when the inside temperatures begin to climb.

So I may try to come up with something that incorporates both the pumps and the fans.

I currently use two fans and have a third for backup. Maybe a fourth would be a good idea for a power outage situation... Reminds me of back in the late 50's and early 60's when talk was about bomb shelters...

[bugs713]

^^I remember bomb drills in 1st grade and the whole school being led into the bomb shelter in the basement. Then later I seen on TV the destruction an Atom bomb would do and wondered what good will a shelter do or hiding under my desk for God's sake! haha

[larcomak11]

i haven't done a duration test yet using this on my mp10, but it works great...the day mine came in the mail i wired it up, plugged it in for a half hour to charge and then duke energy came and had to shut our electric off for 30 mins to wire some "smart meter" up and it work flawlessly, thanks for the idea and the detailed write up!

[bugs713]

^^Your very welcome!

When you can save 80% AND have a much better product, you just gotta love it!

[Chris2223]

This is an awesome DIY that's now plug an play... Can't beat that!! I just ordered the belkin, going to get the cables now. How far away can you put the battery from the belkin unit?

Thanks for this awesome thread!
Chris

Edit: Could you link say a marine deep cell battery in series with the unit? So 2 batteries run off 1 belkin unit?? Just a thought...

[bugs713]

Cool man!
I run two my five Belkins in a closet with a good 14' extension. I would think you could go 25' plus??

I don't know about using a deep cycle battery, but is should be possible. If you come up with anything that works, post it here. Everyone's input in this thread is what has made this successful!

[tassod]

This is a great thread. I just purchased 3 Belkin units and waiting on the adapter cables. Question, I'm using one of the Belkin's to power my Apex. Wondering though, in case of a power outage, would i need more belkin units to power cable modem and router so my apex can send me an email? Is it possible to use splitters so the belkin unit can lets say power my apex along with a network switch?

[m-six hundred]

I have the Belkin battery split between my Apex and my MP40 and it has lasted over 7 hours on back up power. You will need a battery for your modem so the email alert can be sent. My modem requires 15v and the belkin is only 12.

[tassod]

I have the Belkin battery split between my Apex and my MP40 and it has lasted over 7 hours on back up power. You will need a battery for your modem so the email alert can be sent. My modem requires 15v and the belkin is only 12.

What cable or splitter did you use to split them? Can i get that at any local shop?

[tassod]

Yes, received this cable and it works perfect to attach the Belkin to the an MP without splicing - great find insomniac2k2!

It is also cheaper, $3 shipped. The only bad thing, it ships from China, but was actually fast for shipping from there. I always try to avoid buying anything direct from China, choosing a USA company whenever possible. I didn't notice this was coming from China when I ordered. Though I'm sure it was made in China... I'd rather pay a bit more and order states side.

I will order some of the splitters that insomniac listed and see if they work properly. Will post when I get them.

I just got those adapters from China, not sure if i'm doing something wrong but they don't fit on my MP40 module. They connect fine on my Belkin unit but i cant connect it to the mp40 controller....am i missing something else?

[Chris2223]

I purchased everything in post 42, following the links and finally got my belkin unit last week. I have an mp10 and everything pluged up correctly and it works perfectly. I plan on testing how long it will last here soon and I will post up results.

Thanks everybody for making this such a cheap and easy system!
Chris

[tassod]

I haven't ordered any stepdowns yet. I'm still calculating how many 5v devices I want to drive, and what barrel connector size they will need. BUT, Here is a bunch of links that I've been saving as options for extra hardware. Maybe some of them will help you or someone else:


5 pack of Vortech adapters: http://www.ebay.com/itm/390480560910


I ordered these adapters and they do not fit my mp40 units. Can someone tell me how exactly you connected them if it seems to be working for everyone else? These adapters seem to be the same specs as the one is post #42.

[bugs713]

Are you talking about the little adapter? http://www.ebay.com/itm/5pcs-DC-3-5x1-35mm-Male-to-5-5x2-1mm-Female-Power-Adapter-Plug-Connectors-/141021354663?pt=US_Surveillance_Cables_Adapters_Connectors&hash=item20d5871aa7

And you are plugging it into the backup battery plug (12v) on the the MP and the not the main power plug (24v) correct?
I have an old MP20, new MP10's, older MP40's and a new MP40 and these work with all of them. The 24v power cable, on the other hand, is different on the older MP's and will not work with the newer MP's.

Maybe the Chinese sent you the wrong adapters??

[tassod]

Are you talking about the little adapter? http://www.ebay.com/itm/5pcs-DC-3-5x1-35mm-Male-to-5-5x2-1mm-Female-Power-Adapter-Plug-Connectors-/141021354663?pt=US_Surveillance_Cables_Adapters_Connectors&hash=item20d5871aa7

And you are plugging it into the backup battery plug (12v) on the the MP and the not the main power plug (24v) correct?
I have an old MP20, new MP10's, older MP40's and a new MP40 and these work with all of them. The 24v power cable, on the other hand, is different on the older MP's and will not work with the newer MP's.

Maybe the Chinese sent you the wrong adapters??

Thank you for pointing this out, you're right, I was trying to plug it in the main power connector. I plugged it in the backup and worked perfectly, thanks!

[bugs713]

:thumbsup:

[micaheli]

Okay, slight de-railment of the thread to ask what I think is an important question...

Does the Vortech behave any differently powered by 12v? Does it switch into feed mode or some other low-power mode?

If it was me, I would have it switch to a low-power/feed mode/night mode when the main 24v feed went dead and the 12v remained.

[bugs713]

Okay, slight de-railment of the thread to ask what I think is an important question...

Does the Vortech behave any differently powered by 12v? Does it switch into feed mode or some other low-power mode?

If it was me, I would have it switch to a low-power/feed mode/night mode when the main 24v feed went dead and the 12v remained.

Similar to night mode, it automatically goes into a 50% "Constant Speed" mode when 12v takes over. This mode still moves a lot of water!

[micaheli]

50% of max? Or 50% of whatever your normally programmed mode is? If it's 50% of max, that doesn't work for me. I'm running 25-30% as my normal speed (dual MP40's in a 75gal), so if it increased the speed when the power goes out, that doesn't really help me.

[bugs713]

I'm running 25-30% as my normal speed (dual MP40's in a 75gal), so if it increased the speed when the power goes out, that doesn't really help me.

It helps, gives you a 75gal blender....:clown:
Sorry, it switches to 50% of whatever your current speed setting is.

[m-six hundred]

Page 28 of 44 in the manual. You can set the percentage. Read up. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/29/e3u4enup.jpg

[micaheli]

Sadly, I have the WWD, not the ES. ::SADFACE::

[m-six hundred]

Then this, sounds like its not even 50% of the current setting. Its the lowest speed, as if you turned the dial all the way down.

Battery Backup Mode
When a battery backup accessory is added to the VorTech pump, the pump will automatically switch to Battery Backup mode during a
power outage. The pumps will run at the minimum speed to maximize their run time during this critical period.

[Ermin]

If the battery is replaced with another one that has a higher capacity, would Belkin's self test mode still works? I'm guessing that the unit's circuitry is designed to test for the original 7ah. When a higher capacity battery is used..... let's say 14ah..... the battery can be already failing at 10ah, but since it is still far higher than the original, so the test circuit wouldn't be able to see the problem?

[usingthejohn]

Subbed for later projects.


Question. Could this backup be utilized for other pumps as well? Sorry if it's a dumb question

[Ermin]

If the other pumps are also 12v DC based, I would think so.

[bugs713]

If the battery is replaced with another one that has a higher capacity, would Belkin's self test mode still works? I'm guessing that the unit's circuitry is designed to test for the original 7ah. When a higher capacity battery is used..... let's say 14ah..... the battery can be already failing at 10ah, but since it is still far higher than the original, so the test circuit wouldn't be able to see the problem?
Test it and see what happens. I don't think there would be a problem.

[wcharon]

Will try to bump this thread thanks to Flananuts...

Can anybody daisy chain these Belkins Battery backups and if yes, what is needed???

Thanks in advance...

[davehead86]

Does anyone have an update on these things? Do they still work? How long did the battery last?


It seems so silly that these would be available for $50 total cost and ecotech is charging almost $200 for theirs.

[sixpackgarage]

I'm interested also

[davehead86]

I really wish the images werent dead here.

Im getting the following supplies. Can anyone tell me if I missed something ...

2 Belkin Units (buying used through amazon for $18 with shipping included)

2x 3' Male to Male 2.1mm x 5.5mm
http://www.amazon.com/Valley-2-1mm-5-5mm-Power-Adapter/dp/B00GPVWRRC

DC Power Splitter Cable 5.5x2.1mm Female To 2 2.1mm Female Adapter
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/300931464519?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true

2x DC Power 5.5mm x 2.1mm Female to 3.5mm x 1.35mm Male Converter Plug
http://www.amazon.com/SODIAL-Power-Female-1-35mm-Converter/dp/B00U8ML4HI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458090087&sr=8-1&keywords=3.5x1.35mm+Male+to+5.5x2.1mm+Female

These are using the newest links on amazon and ebay (ebay had dead links prior) I will also try and get pictures together that are actually posted on this forum instead of imageshack .

[insomniac2k2]

Looks like you nailed it to me!

[bugs713]

Does anyone have an update on these things? Do they still work? How long did the battery last?


It seems so silly that these would be available for $50 total cost and ecotech is charging almost $200 for theirs.

Haven't been on here in a while, sorry!

This backup system is still working flawlessly! I've had several power outages since install 3 years ago and they have always kicked on and ran the MP40's at 50% power. Longest outage was 6 hrs, but I expect them to run 20+ as I have 2 Belkin's per MP40. I will try to update pics in the next few days, don't know why they blinked out.

This has proven to be a very good alternative to the WAY over priced Vortech BU power supplies and is of better quality and reliability!

[tikireefer]

I really wish the images werent dead here.

Im getting the following supplies. Can anyone tell me if I missed something ...

2 Belkin Units (buying used through amazon for $18 with shipping included)

2x 3' Male to Male 2.1mm x 5.5mm
http://www.amazon.com/Valley-2-1mm-5-5mm-Power-Adapter/dp/B00GPVWRRC

DC Power Splitter Cable 5.5x2.1mm Female To 2 2.1mm Female Adapter
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/300931464519?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true

2x DC Power 5.5mm x 2.1mm Female to 3.5mm x 1.35mm Male Converter Plug
http://www.amazon.com/SODIAL-Power-Female-1-35mm-Converter/dp/B00U8ML4HI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458090087&sr=8-1&keywords=3.5x1.35mm+Male+to+5.5x2.1mm+Female

These are using the newest links on amazon and ebay (ebay had dead links prior) I will also try and get pictures together that are actually posted on this forum instead of imageshack .


Could you explain what each of these items listed above are for? I am planning on doing this as well and I appreciate the time you took to document everything here, but I am not sure I am following what each one of these parts that you are buying from ebay and amazon are for or how they all connect together to make it work.

Thanks!

[insomniac2k2]

I can help there. This should help you break it down for better understanding:

Wall plug ----> Belkin battery backup Model #BU3DC001-12v ----> Extension cable (If needed) ---> 3 way splitter(If you want to run multiple devices off one belkin) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/300931464519?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true) ----> Converters to adapt them to Vortech(s) (http://www.amazon.com/SODIAL-Power-Female-1-35mm-Converter/dp/B00U8ML4HI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458090087&sr=8-1&keywords=3.5x1.35mm+Male+to+5.5x2.1mm+Female)



Could you explain what each of these items listed above are for? I am planning on doing this as well and I appreciate the time you took to document everything here, but I am not sure I am following what each one of these parts that you are buying from ebay and amazon are for or how they all connect together to make it work.

Thanks!

[tikireefer]

Thanks! I am follow,but.....one more question. When you refer to "Extension cable" is that this: 2x 3' Male to Male 2.1mm x 5.5mm
http://www.amazon.com/Valley-2-1mm-5.../dp/B00GPVWRRC

This is the cable that goes from the battery backup to the splitter or adaptor converters depending on what you are doing?

Thanks!

[flananuts]

It all depends on how far you need to run the line to the vortech controller. In my case the Belkin cord was long enough so my adaptor is only 5-6 inches in total. What a great and wicked simple DIY

[insomniac2k2]

The extension cables or multiple extension cables (depending on if you use them before or after the splitter), just extend the range of the cable from the belkin to the vortech(or any other device your are powering). This is before you adapt the cable down to a barrel that the vortech accepts.

That said, I just realized that the cable posted wont work. That is a male to a male. To be an extension, it must be a female to a male. Like these: http://www.amazon.com/CY-Extender-Female-Connector-Extension/dp/B00M0F8HCQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1458162875&sr=1-4&keywords=3%27+Male+to+Male+2.1mm+x+5.5mm+to+female

All other information applies.

Thanks! I am follow,but.....one more question. When you refer to "Extension cable" is that this: 2x 3' Male to Male 2.1mm x 5.5mm
http://www.amazon.com/Valley-2-1mm-5.../dp/B00GPVWRRC

This is the cable that goes from the battery backup to the splitter or adaptor converters depending on what you are doing?

Thanks!

[davehead86]

I'm glad we're getting traction in here again. I just ordered the cables I thought I would need. With most of the links dead and pics gone it was a guessing game for some of them.

I got the y splitter because I thought that's what I needed to connect two belkins to one MP10. I thought the male to male extension would go from the y splitter to the male reducer into the MP10.

[M4rz]

Absolutely agree! I was just going through this thread to find the parts. If possible I will update this thread with what I find...

[M4rz]

Haven't been on here in a while, sorry!

This backup system is still working flawlessly! I've had several power outages since install 3 years ago and they have always kicked on and ran the MP40's at 50% power. Longest outage was 6 hrs, but I expect them to run 20+ as I have 2 Belkin's per MP40. I will try to update pics in the next few days, don't know why they blinked out.

This has proven to be a very good alternative to the WAY over priced Vortech BU power supplies and is of better quality and reliability!



Should have read all of the last page...thanks a bunch for giving us an update. Will be building this ASAP!

[flananuts]

Cheers to this forum and thread. I have two belkin a set up on two mp10's and they work perfectly.


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[wcharon]

I have just bought 2 Belkins thanks to this post. Very appreciated.

I will be using them with 2 Jebao RW-15. I already test one and the duration was around 11 hours.

I have 3 questions to see if it is possible and what parts are needed:

1. Can I daisy chain the 2 Belkins for extended hour power?
2. Also can I connect the 2 Powerheads with the daisy chain or to a single Belkin?
3. Can I hook both Belkins to get 24v output instead of 12V?

Thanks in advance...

[wcharon]

UPDATE.... I think I answered part of my own question after some readings.

Impossible to get 24V out of the 12V unit. Now the concern that I have is that I am using a switchable 12 / 24 Power Supply for the Powerhead. I actually am using it at the maximum of 24V.

If I hook the Belkin it slows down to 12V without power and to 15V when their is electricity so this will lower the pump almost at 50%.

Any recommendation so I can keep using it maximum speed with the Belkin???

Thanks in advance...

[SteveWong]

I'm planning to use this Belkin setup with an AQLink T1 controller which is controlling a Jebao CP40 (gyre) and it looks like a great option -- anyone using this specific setup?

Also wondering if people are still using the fused cable that the OP states in post #1? In the more recent posts, it looks like people are just going to the Y connectors, etc without inline fuses.

[SteveWong]

Just to be clear, when the Belkin UPS unit is on AC power, I presume there is zero voltage out the DC plug?

Since the original pictures are not showing anymore, I made a new diagram of how I think this works...

This is my presumption: if I hook it up as in the diagram below, when there's normal AC power, the controller will just see the 24V from the original power supply, but in a power outage, the Belkin UPS takes over and supplies 12V to the controller (the AQLink T1 controller apparently switches to a battery mode). What I don't want is for both the Belkin and the original power supply feeding 12+24 Volts into the controller at any time! Is this correct? I hope I can do this without needing diodes, etc.

[wcharon]

I will also like to know if this works because I only get 12v out of the Belkin right now.

If it is possible please advise where I can get that splitter.

Thanks in advance...


Just to be clear, when the Belkin UPS unit is on AC power, I presume there is zero voltage out the DC plug?

Since the original pictures are not showing anymore, I made a new diagram of how I think this works...

This is my presumption: if I hook it up as in the diagram below, when there's normal AC power, the controller will just see the 24V from the original power supply, but in a power outage, the Belkin UPS takes over and supplies 12V to the controller (the AQLink T1 controller apparently switches to a battery mode). What I don't want is for both the Belkin and the original power supply feeding 12+24 Volts into the controller at any time! Is this correct? I hope I can do this without needing diodes, etc.