Setting up a 180 - Page 19

BigTuna321 · 12/16/2008, 07:52 PM

nice tank

muelpaul · 12/16/2008, 07:56 PM

In the tank for trials...

It pushes a ton of water on high, so much so it pushes
the smaller fish around, my blue hippo loves the higher flow.

When I went to high, it kicked up the sand bed and
kicked debris off of the live rock. More so than the
Wave2k did.

One bad thing, it vibrates quite a bit when on high so
I might have to turn it down at night.

customcolor · 12/16/2008, 07:57 PM

can you do vid on your camera??? i would like to see it run.

muelpaul · 12/16/2008, 07:57 PM

Thanks BigTuna321, It has been a lot of work but well worth it

muelpaul · 12/16/2008, 08:24 PM

Yes I can Dave....

It is set at full speed with 30 second interval, it pauses
about 3-5 seconds before starting the shift from
one side to the next.

You can still see the debris being circulated, it has
been running for a while now and it still keeps
the debris suspended.

If I can get it to quiet down it will be an
awesome addition.

customcolor · 12/16/2008, 08:52 PM

how short of an interval can you have from side to side and does it do a pulse like a vortech?

muelpaul · 12/16/2008, 09:08 PM

It has a minimum of 15 seconds to a max of 30 minutes. It can also be constant on but only with one side.

No pulse modes nor wave modes, but that is ok with me, I was looking for the alternating flow at 5500 GPH.

I am still bothered by the noise it makes, much less than the wave2k made even at it's quietest...but since we sleep close by the tank it's still too noisy.

I will play around with it on my week off next week, maybe I can find a way to reduce the vibration a little.

The corals are loving it, even at it's lowest setting it's still got excellent flow...

customcolor · 12/16/2008, 09:47 PM

well you never know till you try it......like your wave 2k, ewww. you could have goten 2 hydor magnum 6 or 7s and a regular wave timmer and hook those 2 up on oppisate sides of the tank. heck the 6s are 2200gph each. i have my 6 on the side of the tank and when the wave timmer turns it on all the lps and softies with in 12" get sucked in that direction in a quick pulse

i like watching that. ooohhh yeah they are quiet too.

morphiii · 01/01/2009, 04:57 PM

why didn't you get a vortech I am wondering? Not too much cheaper than a Vortech mp40W.

muelpaul · 01/01/2009, 05:25 PM

Sorry it took so long to reply, my reason to go with the polario as opposed to a vortech was basically price versus flow.

I felt for 5500 gph with timing and bi-directional flow for about $80 less than a single vortech (that has max of 3000gph) was the right choice(for me).

I did find a problem with the polario that I believe was causing the clunking and vibration...The turbine propeller has a ceramic shaft running through it and is broken.

So I sent off an email and will be calling them also for a replacement part.

As for the hydor magnums, they are huge!!! I know they have great flow but man are they big

Paul

customcolor · 01/01/2009, 06:07 PM

but remember your tank is huge too....

customcolor · 01/01/2009, 06:09 PM

plus they are not much bigger than a tunze stream

muelpaul · 01/01/2009, 06:27 PM

Yea that's true, but at like half the price

Don't get me wrong, I think Hydor has got some good price for the flow pumps, I still have the hydor 4 going in my tank and I will keep it in there until it dies....or I get a new tank

customcolor · 01/01/2009, 07:10 PM

have you thought about moding the k4 with a shure flow prop?

muelpaul · 01/01/2009, 07:22 PM

I haven't looked into that yet, how much of an improvement is it? Is it an easy mod or kind of difficult?

customcolor · 01/01/2009, 07:29 PM

i think with that mod it doubles the output and i think, dont quote me on this, but its a drop in mod. ask about it in the diy area. i just know about it a little and i have read it kicks butt.

muelpaul · 01/01/2009, 07:30 PM

I just found it here , it is as easy as removing and then replacing the prop...It was stated to double the flow, not sure how they determined that but if I can find that upgrade kit cheap.....I will do it!

Thanks Dave!

customcolor · 01/01/2009, 07:40 PM

welcome

12/16/2008, 07:52 PM	#451
BigTuna321 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kent, Ohio Posts: 282	nice tank __________________ Ian

12/16/2008, 07:57 PM	#453
customcolor Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: kaukauna, wi. Posts: 3,879	can you do vid on your camera??? i would like to see it run. __________________ PLEASE DONT USE GREAT STUFF (THE YELLOW STUFF) IN YOUR TANK........USE POND FOAM (THE BLACK STUFF).. I BEG YOU! Great stuff====$5 a can 24-48 hour cure Epoxy to cover it====little as $5 for small projects or up to $100+ for larger projects and another 24-48 hour cure I hope you covered it well cuz if you didnt it will start to break down in a few months sand is another added cost to cover up the yellow. Pond foams====$9-$15 a can 24-48 hour cure DONE! You can cover it with sand if you want to (YOU DONT HAVE TO) though but thats added cost again Current Tank Info: 75 gal under way

12/16/2008, 08:52 PM	#456
customcolor Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: kaukauna, wi. Posts: 3,879	how short of an interval can you have from side to side and does it do a pulse like a vortech? __________________ PLEASE DONT USE GREAT STUFF (THE YELLOW STUFF) IN YOUR TANK........USE POND FOAM (THE BLACK STUFF).. I BEG YOU! Great stuff====$5 a can 24-48 hour cure Epoxy to cover it====little as $5 for small projects or up to $100+ for larger projects and another 24-48 hour cure I hope you covered it well cuz if you didnt it will start to break down in a few months sand is another added cost to cover up the yellow. Pond foams====$9-$15 a can 24-48 hour cure DONE! You can cover it with sand if you want to (YOU DONT HAVE TO) though but thats added cost again Current Tank Info: 75 gal under way

12/16/2008, 09:47 PM	#458
customcolor Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: kaukauna, wi. Posts: 3,879	well you never know till you try it......like your wave 2k, ewww. you could have goten 2 hydor magnum 6 or 7s and a regular wave timmer and hook those 2 up on oppisate sides of the tank. heck the 6s are 2200gph each. i have my 6 on the side of the tank and when the wave timmer turns it on all the lps and softies with in 12" get sucked in that direction in a quick pulse i like watching that. ooohhh yeah they are quiet too. __________________ PLEASE DONT USE GREAT STUFF (THE YELLOW STUFF) IN YOUR TANK........USE POND FOAM (THE BLACK STUFF).. I BEG YOU! Great stuff====$5 a can 24-48 hour cure Epoxy to cover it====little as $5 for small projects or up to $100+ for larger projects and another 24-48 hour cure I hope you covered it well cuz if you didnt it will start to break down in a few months sand is another added cost to cover up the yellow. Pond foams====$9-$15 a can 24-48 hour cure DONE! You can cover it with sand if you want to (YOU DONT HAVE TO) though but thats added cost again Current Tank Info: 75 gal under way

01/01/2009, 06:07 PM	#461
customcolor Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: kaukauna, wi. Posts: 3,879	but remember your tank is huge too.... __________________ PLEASE DONT USE GREAT STUFF (THE YELLOW STUFF) IN YOUR TANK........USE POND FOAM (THE BLACK STUFF).. I BEG YOU! Great stuff====$5 a can 24-48 hour cure Epoxy to cover it====little as $5 for small projects or up to $100+ for larger projects and another 24-48 hour cure I hope you covered it well cuz if you didnt it will start to break down in a few months sand is another added cost to cover up the yellow. Pond foams====$9-$15 a can 24-48 hour cure DONE! You can cover it with sand if you want to (YOU DONT HAVE TO) though but thats added cost again Current Tank Info: 75 gal under way

12/16/2008, 07:56 PM	#452
muelpaul Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New London, WI Posts: 592	In the tank for trials... It pushes a ton of water on high, so much so it pushes the smaller fish around, my blue hippo loves the higher flow. When I went to high, it kicked up the sand bed and kicked debris off of the live rock. More so than the Wave2k did. One bad thing, it vibrates quite a bit when on high so I might have to turn it down at night.

12/16/2008, 07:57 PM	#454
muelpaul Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New London, WI Posts: 592	Thanks BigTuna321, It has been a lot of work but well worth it

12/16/2008, 08:24 PM	#455
muelpaul Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New London, WI Posts: 592	Yes I can Dave.... It is set at full speed with 30 second interval, it pauses about 3-5 seconds before starting the shift from one side to the next. You can still see the debris being circulated, it has been running for a while now and it still keeps the debris suspended. If I can get it to quiet down it will be an awesome addition.

12/16/2008, 09:08 PM	#457
muelpaul Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New London, WI Posts: 592	It has a minimum of 15 seconds to a max of 30 minutes. It can also be constant on but only with one side. No pulse modes nor wave modes, but that is ok with me, I was looking for the alternating flow at 5500 GPH. I am still bothered by the noise it makes, much less than the wave2k made even at it's quietest...but since we sleep close by the tank it's still too noisy. I will play around with it on my week off next week, maybe I can find a way to reduce the vibration a little. The corals are loving it, even at it's lowest setting it's still got excellent flow...

01/01/2009, 04:57 PM	#459
morphiii Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New York Posts: 134	why didn't you get a vortech I am wondering? Not too much cheaper than a Vortech mp40W.

01/01/2009, 05:25 PM	#460
muelpaul Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New London, WI Posts: 592	Sorry it took so long to reply, my reason to go with the polario as opposed to a vortech was basically price versus flow. I felt for 5500 gph with timing and bi-directional flow for about $80 less than a single vortech (that has max of 3000gph) was the right choice(for me). I did find a problem with the polario that I believe was causing the clunking and vibration...The turbine propeller has a ceramic shaft running through it and is broken. So I sent off an email and will be calling them also for a replacement part. As for the hydor magnums, they are huge!!! I know they have great flow but man are they big Paul

01/01/2009, 06:09 PM	#462
customcolor Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: kaukauna, wi. Posts: 3,879	plus they are not much bigger than a tunze stream __________________ PLEASE DONT USE GREAT STUFF (THE YELLOW STUFF) IN YOUR TANK........USE POND FOAM (THE BLACK STUFF).. I BEG YOU! Great stuff====$5 a can 24-48 hour cure Epoxy to cover it====little as $5 for small projects or up to $100+ for larger projects and another 24-48 hour cure I hope you covered it well cuz if you didnt it will start to break down in a few months sand is another added cost to cover up the yellow. Pond foams====$9-$15 a can 24-48 hour cure DONE! You can cover it with sand if you want to (YOU DONT HAVE TO) though but thats added cost again Current Tank Info: 75 gal under way

01/01/2009, 06:27 PM	#463
muelpaul Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New London, WI Posts: 592	Yea that's true, but at like half the price Don't get me wrong, I think Hydor has got some good price for the flow pumps, I still have the hydor 4 going in my tank and I will keep it in there until it dies....or I get a new tank

01/01/2009, 07:10 PM	#464
customcolor Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: kaukauna, wi. Posts: 3,879	have you thought about moding the k4 with a shure flow prop? __________________ PLEASE DONT USE GREAT STUFF (THE YELLOW STUFF) IN YOUR TANK........USE POND FOAM (THE BLACK STUFF).. I BEG YOU! Great stuff====$5 a can 24-48 hour cure Epoxy to cover it====little as $5 for small projects or up to $100+ for larger projects and another 24-48 hour cure I hope you covered it well cuz if you didnt it will start to break down in a few months sand is another added cost to cover up the yellow. Pond foams====$9-$15 a can 24-48 hour cure DONE! You can cover it with sand if you want to (YOU DONT HAVE TO) though but thats added cost again Current Tank Info: 75 gal under way

01/01/2009, 07:22 PM	#465
muelpaul Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New London, WI Posts: 592	I haven't looked into that yet, how much of an improvement is it? Is it an easy mod or kind of difficult?

01/01/2009, 07:29 PM	#466
customcolor Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: kaukauna, wi. Posts: 3,879	i think with that mod it doubles the output and i think, dont quote me on this, but its a drop in mod. ask about it in the diy area. i just know about it a little and i have read it kicks butt. __________________ PLEASE DONT USE GREAT STUFF (THE YELLOW STUFF) IN YOUR TANK........USE POND FOAM (THE BLACK STUFF).. I BEG YOU! Great stuff====$5 a can 24-48 hour cure Epoxy to cover it====little as $5 for small projects or up to $100+ for larger projects and another 24-48 hour cure I hope you covered it well cuz if you didnt it will start to break down in a few months sand is another added cost to cover up the yellow. Pond foams====$9-$15 a can 24-48 hour cure DONE! You can cover it with sand if you want to (YOU DONT HAVE TO) though but thats added cost again Current Tank Info: 75 gal under way

01/01/2009, 07:30 PM	#467
muelpaul Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New London, WI Posts: 592	I just found it here , it is as easy as removing and then replacing the prop...It was stated to double the flow, not sure how they determined that but if I can find that upgrade kit cheap.....I will do it! Thanks Dave!

01/01/2009, 07:40 PM	#468
customcolor Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: kaukauna, wi. Posts: 3,879	welcome __________________ PLEASE DONT USE GREAT STUFF (THE YELLOW STUFF) IN YOUR TANK........USE POND FOAM (THE BLACK STUFF).. I BEG YOU! Great stuff====$5 a can 24-48 hour cure Epoxy to cover it====little as $5 for small projects or up to $100+ for larger projects and another 24-48 hour cure I hope you covered it well cuz if you didnt it will start to break down in a few months sand is another added cost to cover up the yellow. Pond foams====$9-$15 a can 24-48 hour cure DONE! You can cover it with sand if you want to (YOU DONT HAVE TO) though but thats added cost again Current Tank Info: 75 gal under way