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Unread 09/11/2009, 10:24 PM   #251
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No, they are cheering.

I can't make a list like that. I built everything and I don't know what half the animals are called.

OK let me try

A skimmer made out of PVC and acrylic.
2 Plaza Hotel sodium lights converted to MH
5 antique pumps.
Homemade auto fill
dolomite, I don't know how much, A bunch
Mud, Type New York
Rocks, some made out of PVC and cement some collected
Asphalt.
A bunch of fish and corals. Who knows.
Bottles, chains, cans
UGF fed with a home made system of bent pipes and containers
Algae trough made from fence post, cement and window screen
Ozonizer, someone on here gave me.
Auto shut off leak detector, (homemade)
Homemade stand in a home made house

Thats it
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Unread 09/11/2009, 10:55 PM   #252
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Thought this would be nice on top of a page along with Paul B's....

[B]Sure Here's a breakdown of everything.

Fish:
Bi-color Blenny
Mated Pair of Clowns
Mated Pair of Kaudern's (Banggai) Cardinals
Flame Angel
Royal Gramma (somewhere)

Inverts:
6 or 7 blue leg hermits (one I think is a zombie)
1 red leg hermit
11 Nerite Snails
25-30 Cerith Snails
1 Scarlet Cleaner Shrimp
1 Bloodred (fire) Shrimp
4 Peppermint Shrimps

Macro Algae (Both in the HOB Refugium):
Ball of Chaeto
Gracilaria

Food and feeding
Alternate feeding once a day either:
Aqueon mixed Marine Flakes
Spirulina Brine
Mysis
Fresh Hatched Baby Brine

Filtration:
75lbs of live rock (5lbs in the refugium)
50lbs of Dolomite on top of the RUGF
Eshopps PSK100-H skimmer w/ ozonizer and over flow bucket
HOB Refugium (algae listed above)

Maintanence equip
Vortex XL Diatom filter (use maybe once a month)
mag float (use once a day)
toothbrush
baster

Water Flow and pumps (Around 2475 GPH):
Eshopps Skimmer into Refugium back to Tank (around 300gph)
Two SEIO p530's
One SEIO m820
MaxiJet 1200 Stirring up the surface (295gph)
Two quiet ones 53gph into RUGF (can't really add this to total gph)

Lighting
Current Sundial 4 T5's w/ lunar lights (current has default 2x 460nm and 2x 10k lights. Going to play around with ATI Aquablue's, Blue Plus, and UVL Actinic White.) Wish I went retro. Once this fixture breaks I'll replace with a retro kit.

Some 18w fluorescence daylight/plant grow bulb over refugium

Temp Control
2 Rena heaters. 1 50w and 1 100w in tank.
1 300w in mixing container.

Backup Plan
APC SmartUPS 1500va with only the skimmer connected and two battery backup air pumps. Plenn plax (2xD cells) and Azoo(internal rechargable battery). Air pumps kick on when the UPS fails. UPS should last around 3-4hours and plen plax around 12hours and azoo 20 hours.

Car power inverter and long extension cord to tank

Saving up for a Generator

Water
BRS 5 stage RO/DI unit
Brute trash can for salt water mixing
5g bucket under stand for top off water

Supply lines to both brute and 5g bucket w/ float valves but still manually top off both. Float valves are a backup to me forgetting to turn the water off.

Magdrive 1800 to push water up to tank from mixing container for water changes. Empty tank direct into basement drain.

Aqualifter for ATO setup with float sensors in tank.

Chemicals and Additives
IO ReefCrystals salt mix

Testing
Calibrate everything that can be calibrated once a month
Refractometer
Hanna pH/ORP/temp probe
API Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate/Phosphate/Calcium/Alk
Salifert Magnesium
RedSea O3


I think that's it.


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Unread 09/11/2009, 10:58 PM   #253
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[B]Thought this would be nice on top of a page....

Sure Here's a breakdown of everything.

Fish:
Bi-color Blenny
Mated Pair of Clowns
Mated Pair of Kaudern's (Banggai) Cardinals
Flame Angel
Royal Gramma (somewhere)

Inverts:
6 or 7 blue leg hermits (one I think is a zombie)
1 red leg hermit
11 Nerite Snails
25-30 Cerith Snails
1 Scarlet Cleaner Shrimp
1 Bloodred (fire) Shrimp
4 Peppermint Shrimps

Macro Algae (Both in the HOB Refugium):
Ball of Chaeto
Gracilaria

Food and feeding
Alternate feeding once a day either:
Aqueon mixed Marine Flakes
Spirulina Brine
Mysis
Fresh Hatched Baby Brine

Filtration:
75lbs of live rock (5lbs in the refugium)
50lbs of Dolomite on top of the RUGF
Eshopps PSK100-H skimmer w/ ozonizer and over flow bucket
HOB Refugium (algae listed above)

Maintanence equip
Vortex XL Diatom filter (use maybe once a month)
mag float (use once a day)
toothbrush
baster

Water Flow and pumps (Around 2475 GPH):
Eshopps Skimmer into Refugium back to Tank (around 300gph)
Two SEIO p530's
One SEIO m820
MaxiJet 1200 Stirring up the surface (295gph)
Two quiet ones 53gph into RUGF (can't really add this to total gph)

Lighting
Current Sundial 4 T5's w/ lunar lights (current has default 2x 460nm and 2x 10k lights. Going to play around with ATI Aquablue's, Blue Plus, and UVL Actinic White.) Wish I went retro. Once this fixture breaks I'll replace with a retro kit.

Some 18w fluorescence daylight/plant grow bulb over refugium

Temp Control
2 Rena heaters. 1 50w and 1 100w in tank.
1 300w in mixing container.

Backup Plan
APC SmartUPS 1500va with only the skimmer connected and two battery backup air pumps. Plenn plax (2xD cells) and Azoo(internal rechargable battery). Air pumps kick on when the UPS fails. UPS should last around 3-4hours and plen plax around 12hours and azoo 20 hours.

Car power inverter and long extension cord to tank

Saving up for a Generator

Water
BRS 5 stage RO/DI unit
Brute trash can for salt water mixing
5g bucket under stand for top off water

Supply lines to both brute and 5g bucket w/ float valves but still manually top off both. Float valves are a backup to me forgetting to turn the water off.

Magdrive 1800 to push water up to tank from mixing container for water changes. Empty tank direct into basement drain.

Aqualifter for ATO setup with float sensors in tank.

Chemicals and Additives
IO ReefCrystals salt mix

Testing
Calibrate everything that can be calibrated once a month
Refractometer
Hanna pH/ORP/temp probe
API Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate/Phosphate/Calcium/Alk
Salifert Magnesium
RedSea O3


I think that's it.
start a blog---they have the advantage that you can edit them all the time--not just within the hour like a thread post
If you create a blog I will link it to the Capn's Log book blog

http://www.reefcentral.com/wp/?p=346


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Unread 09/11/2009, 11:05 PM   #254
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Took a recent full tank shot tonight. Don't think I've done one of those in a while. The GHA is almost non-existent. There's a very few scraglers left and they don't really bother me much. Tiny bits of cyano here and there right now but I basted them away for the most part tonight. Ended up just doing the water change tonight too.


Here's the FTS after the water cleared up after the basting.
[IMG]http://i27.*******.com/35jfm74.jpg[/IMG]


Got a picture of the clowns going over and saying hello to the Angel.

[IMG]http://i25.*******.com/33jh9ie.jpg[/IMG]


Also, took this picture a little while back but never posted it. This is the Azoo backup air pump. Has an internal rechargeable battery and is suppose to work for up to 20hours as soon as the power goes out in interval mode. On for something like 50s then off for 50s.

This thing is a lot bigger then I thought it was going to be. Put a refractometer on top to give reference since I know EVERYONE on reefcentral has one of those.
[IMG]http://i25.*******.com/szzmuw.jpg[/IMG]


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Unread 09/11/2009, 11:19 PM   #255
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start a blog---they have the advantage that you can edit them all the time--not just within the hour like a thread post
If you create a blog I will link it to the Capn's Log book blog

http://www.reefcentral.com/wp/?p=346
Seems like a lot more work. I'm kind of partial to this thread now that I'm into it pretty far. I guess I could start a blog just for things like updated pictures and setup list like above.


I did try and start up a blog but I keep getting

"You do not have sufficient permissions to access this page."

I setup a profile and signed in too.


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Unread 09/12/2009, 04:36 AM   #256
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Capn, are you typing on a typewriter? You do know that you don't have to copy the entire post to add something don't you?
My computer is running out of ink showing all of those boldfaced words.

Jason, everyone has a refractometer except me. It will not hurt and I know people like to be exact with this stuff and it is great for the economy but I just feel that the salinity varies so much in the sea that the exact measurement is not that important.
I do use one to check my cheap floating arm hydrometer though which is far off.
I put a line on it where the salinity should be. When I use NSW I need it because the water off NY is usually very low in salinity.
And I find that the Long Island Sound sometimes is practically fresh water
My salinity varies greatly over the year and the animals keep spawning and smiling so I personally don't get crazy over it but don't go by me. If everyone was like me, the economy would have crashed when Eisenhower was President.
Being you installed a RUGF most of your problems are over.


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Unread 09/12/2009, 08:58 AM   #257
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Yep, all problems are solved with a RUGF. I installed a RUGF and I no longer have to dose Calcium. In fact I better start adding corals before the Calcium levels get to high.


I tried the refractometer out this time around and found I like it a lot better then the swing arm but not because of accuracy. I'm very messy with the swing arm. Well, I'm just a very messy person I guess. I just try and keep it between 33 and 35 mark in the refractometer now.


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Unread 09/13/2009, 05:02 AM   #259
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Unread 09/14/2009, 08:51 PM   #260
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Well, the hydroids are gone. I'm kind of disappointed for some reason. Either the peppermint shrimp or the angel fish must have got to the baby hydroid patch that was growing. Feather dusters are still there which is what I thought the angel would have gone after. Finally saw the royal gramma tonight after the lights went out. I was ready to call him a gonner. Hopefully he'll start coming out during the day and I can get some pics of him.

Raised the temp in the house the other day and replaced the light fixture above the hob refugium. Temp in the tank tonight registered at 84.2f !! Yikes. The old florescence light was buzzing a lot and annoyed the wife. Found this really cheap hood that holds two regular light bulbs. I put in a couple 60w equivalent florescent bulbs. I wouldn't think it would put out that much more heat but in combination of increasing the house temp up a couple degrees added up.

I'm going to look into tearing the light fixture I have apart and retro fitting it into the canopy I have. Unfortunately the canopy is probably as old as the tank which I think was made in 1980 based on the manufacture date stamp on the inside rim of the tank. So, there's really not a lot of height to work with in there. Right now the light fixture is resting right on the tank so it's probably two maybe three inches at most from the water. If I can mount the reflectors right to the canopy I might get them 3-4in off the water. Don't know if that would help or not. But I would be able to open the canopy up top and be able to access my tank then. Right now to turkey baste the rocks I have to take the canopy off and the light fixture. Kind of a pain in the rear.


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Raised the temp in the house the other day and replaced the light fixture above the hob refugium. Temp in the tank tonight registered at 84.2f !! Yikes.
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Mine has been running 84 degress all summer this year. If it does not go down to 82 degrees at night I throw in two frozen regular size plastic coke zero bottles (with ice) I put them in the filter sock so they don't float around and cause some kind of problem esp with my track record
That usually does the trick


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Thanks capn. I'll check it in the morning. It's been, I'll have to look back to make sure, around 80-81 at night before those two changes and around 78 in the mornings. Actually what alerted me was my heaters. The two heaters have a light facing forward that says when they are on and flash when it gets to hot. Like what just happened or they get stuck in the on position. I unplugged both to make sure they don't go on tonight and see where it's at tomorrow.


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I probably wouldn't have but we were trying to keep the house really cool for the baby. We're really paranoid about SIDS. Still scares the crap out of us. Can't wait till he's a year old and almost all chances of SIDS are out of the way.

Hospital told us to keep the house as cold as possible preferably around 68 and keep a fan on. We kept a fan on and had the house around 72. He's been kicking his swaddling blanket off at night so we stopped swaddling him. So, now it's a bit to cold for him and bumped up the AC to 74-76.


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Unread 09/14/2009, 09:21 PM   #265
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I probably wouldn't have but we were trying to keep the house really cool for the baby. We're really paranoid about SIDS. Still scares the crap out of us. Can't wait till he's a year old and almost all chances of SIDS are out of the way.

My daughter kept a baby monitored cranked up in the baby's room so you could hear the breathing


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My daughter kept a baby monitored cranked up in the baby's room so you could hear the breathing
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Yep, same here. We can hear the damn clock ticking in there. Things are producing more white noise then the entire aquarium.



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BTW, I still can't post a blog entry.

On a side note, there is always more then one way to skin a cat.... referencing another thread here... reminder to self the Interwebz iz cerious buznis.


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Well, one more update. I've noticed since the lights went off the Cardinals have been talking a lot. Much more then the radom knock or knock knock. Either they like the heat or they hate it. We'll see if they decide to breed soon then they may like it.


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Love that it's football season again. Great game going on tonight. SD/Raiders tied up at 10 going into the fourth 1/4. Can't wait for next Monday night. My Dolphins are playing the Colts.

ORP is at 215 right now and Temp is down to 83.3


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What a great game all the way down to the end. Temp this morning was 81.2 and ORP 180. Shoot I forgot to click the probe over to get the pH. I was curious what it is in the morning too. I set the lights to go on later in the day. So, hopefully the tank will keep going down in temp until they turn on and wont go so high.

I'm seriously looking into ripping that fixture apart and doing a retro fit with it. Only thing I know I'll need to get are reflectors and moisture resistant end caps and the reflector inside the fixture is a one big single reflector that is just contoured around the bulbs and the end caps are open because it has a protective acrylic sheet that slides in. I don't think I'm going to reuse the fans in the fixture because they are small which makes them really noisy. I've got a bunch of computer fans in the 3-4" range all over the place I can rig up.

Only issues I can see with doing this is salt build up on the bulbs and reflectors now instead of the acrylic piece that the fixture uses which I clean off at least once a week now as it is. In my old setup I had a GLO T5 2 bulb setup with one reflector for both bulbs and I had to keep up on cleaning that so I know it's not as easy as cleaning off the acrylic. I also hope that this will be a cooler setup as it will be at least another inch higher away from the water and hopefully with two 3" or 4" fans for bringing in air and exhaust will keep them cooler and be quieter.

I'm not sure where I'll mount the ballast. I'd like to get it under the tank and out from inside the canopy which would help reduce heat and probably extend the life of the ballast as well I think. I was thinking of getting some molex connectors that I can grab from some spare computers and use them for quick disconnects so I can remove the canopy with out having to stretch wires or anything.

What I also need to find out is if I can mount the end caps with standoffs right to the canopy wood or if I need some kind of thermal barrier? Same with the ballast under the tank if I can mount them right to the wood or need a housing for them?


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WOW, amazing how much a shiny piece of metal costs. Those damn reflectors add up when you need more then one. I'm thinking how I might cut the contoured single reflector into individual or in half to pair two up at a time. I need to at least split it in two so I can lift the doors on top and two will go up with the doors. So, I'll have to see how to retro fit the reflector into my retrofit setup and work with the standoffs/endcaps.

I was reading through the lighting and other equipment section in the T5 thread. Found I can mount the standoffs/endcaps right to the underside of the canopy just fine. Still not sure if I need anything special to mount the ballast into under the tank or if they can safely be mounted right to the wood as well. Still researching that. Also, while reading through that thread The Grim states that 3" fans mounted int he back of the canopy blowing air in facing the end caps is probably the best setup. So, I'll go with that. Looks like some people have used molex connectors as well. I'll use those for the fans and lighting for quick disconnects when I need to take the canopy off for some reason. Which will be much less often after I can open the doors on top and actually be able to access the tank.

Quick probe 8:00p
Temp: 83.8
ORP: 219
pH: 7.89

Another side note. That eshopps skimmer is kicking some major a$$. It's gotten better nastier smellier skimmate as each day passes since I set it up and it's getting broke in. It is well worth more then the price they have listed for it new. I still don't know how well it would be for anything bigger then a 55g though. But 55g and under I would highly recommend this skimmer.


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WOW, amazing how much a shiny piece of metal costs. Those damn reflectors add up when you need more then one. I'm thinking how I might cut the contoured single reflector into individual or in half to pair two up at a time. I need to at least split it in two so I can lift the doors on top and two will go up with the doors. So, I'll have to see how to retro fit the reflector into my retrofit setup and work with the standoffs/endcaps.

I was reading through the lighting and other equipment section in the T5 thread. Found I can mount the standoffs/endcaps right to the underside of the canopy just fine. Still not sure if I need anything special to mount the ballast into under the tank or if they can safely be mounted right to the wood as well. Still researching that. Also, while reading through that thread The Grim states that 3" fans mounted int he back of the canopy blowing air in facing the end caps is probably the best setup. So, I'll go with that. Looks like some people have used molex connectors as well. I'll use those for the fans and lighting for quick disconnects when I need to take the canopy off for some reason. Which will be much less often after I can open the doors on top and actually be able to access the tank.

Quick probe 8:00p
Temp: 83.8
ORP: 219
pH: 7.89

Another side note. That eshopps skimmer is kicking some major a$$. It's gotten better nastier smellier skimmate as each day passes since I set it up and it's getting broke in. It is well worth more then the price they have listed for it new. I still don't know how well it would be for anything bigger then a 55g though. But 55g and under I would highly recommend this skimmer.
I would try to keep the ballasts out from under the cabinet. Originally mine were in the cabinet along with the sump and I had some heat problems.
Until I took everything down in the basement below I just ran them on a piece of tile flooring beside the cabinet.


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Heat problems with the ballasts or heat problems with the water temperature because of the ballasts? Since I don't have a sump do you think it would be okay still to have the ballasts under the cabinet? Should I mount them on a sheet of aluminum? For the tile, how did you mount the ballasts to it? Or did you just lay them flat on the ground? I wouldn't have the room around my tank to do that though.


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The two baby aptasia that I noticed before are gone. Either they moved or the peppermints ate them. I'm guessing and hoping the later.


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Been a while since I've seen that gramma again. He sure likes to hide. Bad news, the camera is dead right now. Got dropped and now wont turn on. I'll have to try and take it apart and see if there's anything loose that can be fixed. Temps are a bit better.

Morning probe tests 7am
Temp: 80.1
pH: 7.89
ORP: 180

7:30pm Tests
Temp: 83.1
pH: 8.03
ORP: 195


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Heat problems with the ballasts or heat problems with the water temperature because of the ballasts? Since I don't have a sump do you think it would be okay still to have the ballasts under the cabinet? Should I mount them on a sheet of aluminum? For the tile, how did you mount the ballasts to it? Or did you just lay them flat on the ground? I wouldn't have the room around my tank to do that though.


Side note:

The two baby aptasia that I noticed before are gone. Either they moved or the peppermints ate them. I'm guessing and hoping the later.
I would mount them on a piece of tile because they do get hot on a wooden cabinet.

Hopefully the peppermints ate the aptasia.


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